How the fuck do people learn shit? My classmates can sleep through half the lecture and get As on their tests...

well that's the problem then, you are supposed to read to understand not just memorize, if you are reading something you don't get you are just wasting time. Get another book or see the moment you stopped understanding and learn that instead.

Try reading a more advanced book on whatever subject you're studying.

Either you're too stupid and you should just accept it and drop out, drop out because your courses aren't a good fit, or try to find some other methods of studying/understanding the material (refer to the first two options if that still doesn't work)

How would that help him? If he can't understand the material at his level, how would boosting the difficulty help?

>Try reading a more advanced book
>How would that help ?

It helps a lot. Advanced books summarize the content saving time.

For a Freshman:

Calculus:
Courant, Apostol, Spivak> Simmons > Shitewart

Classical Mech: John R. Taylor > Halliday, Serway, Tipler, etc

Electrodynamics: Purcell, Griffiths > Halliday, Serway, Tipler, etc

Linear Algebra:
Hoffman > Axler > Strang, Else

honestly i mostly find lectures to be useless. You have a textbook, if you know how to study, you should be okay. And typically the lectures move slower than I want them to.
I get that setting in lectures, even if you know the material, helps cement it into your brain, but it always just feels like a waste of time to me.

you *might* have a learning disability that you can learn to work through with the right help, though that's something you'd have to go to a real doctor for; i could be completely off base here so please take me with a grain of salt

also tutoring might help if you need to learn old material again; khan academy is one online option you could try, googling "___ for dummies" or "___ tutorial" can also help

I don't think this works in general. I actually tend to go down a level when learning maths, for example. I need the exposition to help build intuition

Try doing nootropics

I agree with this user, I will say that you get more out of lecture if you pre-read, however. Pre-reading and just listening helps me far more than taking notes while seeing the material for the first time

No one at the college level getting good grades is sleeping in class and not studying. Its easy to be intimidated and think that if you dont follow them around.
The asian and indian kids in your class acing the tests study 40 hours a week outside of class.

Though I will admit I have a shit memory compared to my classmates. I can forget what the professor went over 5 minutes ago.

But anyway, you have to put the effort in to do practive problems beyond what your professors assign. After calculus, my professors assigned 3 or 4 problems in my de, analysis, algebra etc classes. Its even worse in physics. YOU have to get extra books and find problems and do them. The asian and indian kids do.

Another tip is to teach someone else the material you learned. Especially someone who doesnt know the material. Every curriculum should have teaching built in. It really is a great way to assess your own knowledge and clear things up for yourself.

what are you struggling with?
are your notes and thought process organized? can you talk through a problem before doing it? are you having mental health issues? you need to assess your situation

this is retarded
if anything, watch a youtube lecture on it for a different perspective

simmons is shit. rogawski is lowkey the best fresh calc book
taylor IS the remedial book
same with griffiths

lectures should be used to ask questions about the material you read the night before.
imo office hours are more useful than lectures

I'm not OP, but I have just come to the realization that one needs to do more than what's assigned. How do you decide how much extra work to do in say, an analysis course with baby rudin as a text? Couple extra problems? Every other? All? (That seems unmanageable)

Just work until you drop. You've got to be hardcore if you want to get ahead.

This.
I started online college and I was a terrible student in high school. What seems to work with me is getting down to core concepts first. Also, make sure you study in different ways IE reading, videos, taking notes, lectures. Tons of material about everything on the internet. Go get em.

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they probably do exercises while you just read
reading is useless brainlet

also take the mensa iq test
test.mensa.no/
post results

they are concentrating in a deep yogic mentalist meditative learning state, not sleeping, YOU POOR POOR LOWBROW.
grasp a straw at it's center, hold it against your belly button, say this out loud: " ohhhhmmmm, ohhmmmmmmmm, ohmmmmmmm - for about 20 minutes
afterwards lose the straw and the big fat mouth
...
Now you're a genius !

I think asians and indians have better memory than whites though.

ssri's(zoloft) made me go from average student to top of the cohort.

Honestly, switch degrees.

Even if you luck out and get a job relevant to your degree even the most basic tasks will be hell for you. Things that are just a job for those smart kids will be a stress filled mountain climb through hell for you.

That's no way to live life.

meds and/or autistic studying outside of class if they're chinks or japs

Stress makes it really hard to remember shit, find a way to get rid of your stress that isn't posting threads on Veeky Forums about how "worried you are that everyone has such a better memory"

You're also probably studying wrong, reading a book two times won't teach you shit. You need to break that book down into smaller parts and remember the sections within those smaller parts so it's easy for your brain to digest. Tests also shouldn't be the first time you challenge yourself with what you learn, you need to practice before them.

Or just take the easy route like said.

I'm too stupid for smart shit. Please end my life.

>going to collage
T.loser

>They're all on drugs and supplements!
>They study 40 hours a week!
>They're Asian!

Sorry, but this amount of COPE is hilarious. I can guarantee you that 3 out of the top 5 graduates in our year were not studying more than 1-5 hours per week, I know this for a fact because 2 of those were my friends. Also we're all 5 white males. You know what happened most semesters? When we weren't skipping lectures to go day drinking, we were going camping, driving around the country on some adventure and other things typical university students do.

In some cases like the calc circuit and real analysis I never attended lectures. I got the top mark in 3 of those. Most people assumed I was studying my ass off. I told them I was because some were clinically and openly suicidal after failing for several years (one sad girl even showed me her papers). Well I was actually going to the gym or daydrinking. The truth is I often ripped off the plastic cover off my textbook 1-3 days before the exam, skipped most tutorials and class test and studied about 6 hours per semester test (coffee and carbs as aid; never popped a single adderal in my life).

Next you're gonna say "oh wow you idiot, you learned it all in short term memory, you're gonna pay later!". Nope. In final year I resumed studying graduate level material, I aced grad electives in fields that I've since published and I was TAing junior level thermal physics before I graduated. Since starting postgrad I've TAed other courses and have never had the need to revise.

Serious advice for the OP:

Undergrad is not supposed to be difficult, you should take this issue seriously. In my experience only about 30% of students like you can turn things around. My advice would be to change your learning techniques, you're not getting anything out of reading textbooks solo, so try aural, visual and interpersonal techniques (lectures, videos, audiobooks, group studying, get tutoring etc). uaap.mit.edu/tutoring-support/study-tips

A hard pillow to swallow

When they go home they study 20 times more than you, while you masturbate or play games

Idk man how do you not understand how you don't understand lol like you read the book... Then poof F on test? Perhaps in like literature you might have some false confidence but with STEM you should have a pretty good idea of your own ability. How do you feel after you read? Do you know you know it? Do you know you don't know it? Do you not know if you know it or not? You should at least know if you know you know it or not, but for all I know you don't know

You offer bad advice, if it could even be called that. Provided what you say about yourself is true, then clearly you have a high IQ and can operate the way you do. However, an IQ that is 3 standard deviations higher than the mean is not a prerequisite to success at undergrad, or even graduate institutions. There is a lot of work to be done for many people. I am one of the best students in my Analysis class, and I got there through hours of back breaking work and constantly revising my study habits. It's certainly possible that your undergrad institution will be difficult, especially if you go to a very selective and competitive school as I do, where EVERYONE has a high IQ in conjunction with a monstrous work ethic

Why is it bad advice? It's what the MIT learning centre always recommends, back by decades of research.

He already said he is grinding without success, more grinding is not going to help.

I can understand how you feel. It's a difficult process, it requires a lot of vigilance, but you can improve your thinking. You'll have to mold your thinking processes into something different, and fix your foundations, but it can be done.

Well maybe he isn't grinding the right way. There's different ways to study, you just gotta experiment and find out what works for you.

Until you can look at a problem and talk through it confidently

ex) if i say prove sqrt(6) is irrational. can you say youll assume it can be written in a/b form where a and b share no divisors. then youll say you can show that b^2 * 6 = a^2 implies both a and b are even which contradicts the premise. thats the proof

once you can no longer talk through problems quickly, youre ready for grad school

Do the problems, you retain almost nothing just reading

>Read the textbook
>Go through the professor's notes

Are you learning, or are you just reading?

OP here. I also do practice problems and go over the homework solutions, but then the test problems are nothing like the homework problems.

>but I have just come to the realization that one needs to do more than what's assigned.

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When are you going to stop being such a bitch, man up and sort through your fucked up excuse of a life.

Ahhh poor baby why me, why me? Pull your head out of your ass and smell the sunshine.

you're probably depressed

Some people just naturally learn quickly. Why is that so hard to understand?

If you're working hard and passing your classes, good! You'll get the same degree those gifted people have, but you'll also have persistence and patience which get you a lot further in life/career than just being able to memorize/understand stuff you'll most likely never use. The sleep through lectures people tend to wilt at the first sign of real challenges.

You're depressed. Your classmates memorize the steps that they need to take in order to arrive at the right answer.

Same, except I did it in 5 hours.

It means that you lack the foundation to understand the material, baka.

6 hours isn't even enough time to get acquainted with material like Ochem, and get top marks. Literally impossible, or a brainlet uni.

My IQ is apparently in the 140s according to the WAIS-IV from when I was 17, and I still need to study.

They're taking Alex Jone's brainforce supplements which you can always order at infowars.com