Wow, when did feminism stoop so low?

theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/06/the-boldness-of-roxane-gays-hunger/530067/?utm_source=atltw

>My obesity is a metaphorical shield from men and a sexist society, not from an inability and unwillingness to lose weight due to laziness.

I understand (or sympathise with ) how traumatic an experience rape would be, but how can someone delude themselves so much? Writing pseudo-philosophical trash about your struggles with weight is nothing more than pathetic self-aggrandisement.

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HF: You are saying, along with Confucius: "I have added nothing."
SB: Yes, I have added nothing.

I have to add nothing

im writer

Nothing I have, to add

Do I have anything to add? No.

I wouldn't add a single thing, even if I had one.

Je n'ai rien à ajouter

I have but naught to include.

i have nothing to add to this (all me btw)

Untrue. Some of those are me. Otherwise, I have nothing to add.

>Hunger is about weight gained and lost and gained—at her heaviest Gay weighed 577 pounds. It’s also about so much more: the body she built to shield herself from the contempt of men and her own sense of shame, her complex relationship with parents who took great interest in solving her weight “problem,”

Stopped reading there, came back to say WTF

Fuck off virgin.

I love how they put scare quotes around "problem".

>My obesity is a metaphorical shield from men
None of this makes even a little bit of sense.

lol fuck off pol this is nice board

>Le fuck off /pol/ XD

but seriously, pls do

>theatlantic.com
Every time you visit a website like this you support this faggotry.

This sort of behaviour has been a part of radical feminism since, oh, the 80's. Insane bitches like Solanas already preached this behaviour.

Honestly, the more I see and learn about extremists, the more I'm convinced extremism is just extreme selfishness. Extremists always seem to operate on internal, emotional guidance and then make up all sorts of reasons why they should be allowed to, while the rest of the world has to expend effort in order to accommodate them. Be it radical feminists, Islamic extremists, communists, etc. etc. the one defining feature they all share is that they ask the rest of the world to drop whatever they're doing and support their internal beliefs.

Maybe that's also why Western society is so sensitive to extremism. Our entire society is based on a high degree of empathy and understanding.

What's wrong with the Atlantic

lol are you literally 12?

What if being obesse is a spook? Anyway come join the new and improved /pol/ with the old flag system back we now LARP as pirates ARRGGH.

>every political ideology is guided by selfishness and emotional attachment
>but not mine of course :^)

*sniff*

WTF I love nihilism now!

>old flags

pol is saved :), that said I don't really approve of piracy...

SJWs cannot survive without the attention you're giving to them. You're two sides of the same coin.

>To fight nihilism you need ideology

*tugs shirt*

>I do not agree with you, therefore I will insult you
>this means I am right

Extremism at work.

so is that a yes?

Its not a spook, society doesn't lead to to believe obesity is real when it isn't. This isn't even to do with arguments like "healthy at all sizes" and so on. There are some pretty objective standards of beauty/aesthetic, and being morbidly obese is pretty objectively less attractive than a person within a normal BMI range. Being gay or being straight isn't a spook, and being obese isn't a spook either, unless you have a disgusting fetish - in which case you should be ashamed of yourself.

Americans.

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The two things are not equivalent you pseud.

I didn't read this and I don't care, but is it really that hard to see how getting fat would shield you from men?

I definitely agree but I'd call it narcissism

>implying chubby chasers didn't earn their name
>implying humans are not persistence hunters
tbph a shield might be better

>man is fat
>knows he is fat
>woman Is fat
>THIS IS THE PATRIARCHY'S FAULT STOP FATSHAMING SHITLORD

>Joke's on you I'm Obese on purpose.

What did she REALLY mean by this? what is this type of behavior called?

Projection of guilt

Girls that are raped comfort eat and use being fat as shield from attention. You'd probably do it too

well then maybe she shouldn't have gotten raped then...

I think it's understandable, humans have fucked up ways of dealing with trauma, but to say that you're using your obesity as a "weapon" against sexism is farfetched. Fat chance. A big lie. A rotund misrepresentation.

fuck off roastie

There's no way anyone would rape that.

She's not saying that, who would. A fat girl is less likely to be raped, hence her not caring if she is

Thats kind of her point

>There's no way anyone would rape that.
I remain largely unconvinced by this.

In porn websites you find women of all shapes and sizes, all ethnicities, etc. having all manner of allegedly unattractive features like excessive body hair, adipose tissue, skeletal muscles or melanin... each of these have their respective fetishist cult and selection of models catering to it. For men are blessed with interesting personalities and just as diverse and flexible sexual preferences.

So whenever anyone says that a particular body feature they're working on is "a metaphorical shield from men" chances are that some

I know this is entirely speculation on my part, but I cannot help but suspect many supposedly unattractive women fear being raped so much compared to better endowed, supposed "choice prey", because they have some relative, subconscious understanding of this fact.

The fact that they can awaken the lust of certain people without trying, but cannot know whom or when in advance.

Combined with the less speculative observation that pretty girls are in the privileged position to select the "best" men, most material benefits, especially protection, a protection that would appear to outweigh the risks... the aforementioned women find themselves in quite the predicament, and but projecting the hatred for the latter girls on men isn't gonna solve anything, I fear.

But all of this talk of desire and attraction is to forget that rape and attractiveness don't have to go hand in hand.

Together with torture and killing, rape is the final boss of insults.

And gaining weight simply means you will have a harder time escaping and resisting a person interested in delivering such an insult to you.

Bon appétit.

>So whenever anyone says that a particular body feature they're working on is "a metaphorical shield from men" chances are that in some cases it will have the opposite effect.
herp

You're right, maybe not directly, but looking at it in a skewed positive way is wrong as well.

>She denounces reality shows like The Biggest Loser, Fit to Fat to Fit, Revenge Body, and Extreme Makeover: Weight Loss Edition, among others, that market themselves as advocating empowerment through exercise, but that “treat fat as an enemy that must be destroyed, a contagion that must be eradicated.”

She may be right about those reality shows being cancer, but being obese is a serious condition, adopting it as a state to repel society, wether it's sexism, fat shaming, or consumerism, is fucking retarded.

Protip: people that eat more than they need aren't the first when I think of fighting consumerism, gabidalism, etc.

Its not about her repelling society. Its about not being ogled or raped. And I'd say more than an affirmative its more like self harm or something. Bukowski's not promoting alcohol as a great MO for life yolo, and she isn't either with food. Also food's an addiction for her.

Calm the women hate, I mean why is OP and you upset about her. This is not a writer that's for you, there are others in the world doing different stuff for different people etc

I don't think they fear it more, I think it's like the old joke of a guy complaining about all the Swedish supermodels that are attracted to me. In the case of unattractive women, however, it's not a joke, it's a projection. They want people to think that they are irresistible. They do this by convincing themselves that secretly every guy wants to rape them.

I think this is kind of justifying after-the-fact, I don't believe she really WANTS to be fat to repel society.

Obesity is so complex. It's really more of a toxic relationship with food than it is "just eating too much", pretty much every manner and any connection to food is toxic. I have a father who is obese, and I don't even like to hear food being mentioned about in the slightest context. He also has some of the strictest eating habits I've ever encountered. Literally, every dimension of food that is positive is made a negative, and every already existing negative is accentuated. No one in my family delights in food in any way in his presence (talking, eating, food network shows, etc. These are all exhausting.)

Her weight is not to shield herself from predatory men; her weight is probably because she hasn't seen a therapist or gotten help, truly. There's another aspect to obesity, and that is delusion. The outside world is almost entirely a delusion that only slightly has to do with food. Think alcoholism and the alcoholic: I think AA has a saying about alcoholism only being part of the problem. Not to mention, alcoholics tend to think "I can control my drinking, I just started drinking heavily because of ______. (I developed a toxic relationship with alcohol because ______. is how is actually should be stated)".

Finally, I'd like to say that I think there's a suicidal (and I don't mean it metaphorically, I mean actually a suicidal tendency) that lurks behind obesity, and I've seen it with my father. He also associates with people who have this, and I don't know how to describe it. For example, he hired a kid who immediately disturbed me with the way he acted, his mannerisms, etc. Came into work constantly limping, black eyes. 27 years old but always having "accidents", always in "pain". And only ''typically' a thrill-seeker. But he got a motorcycle, and was running it at 140 mph sometimes on the interstate, and I knew he was trying to get in a wreck but not consciously trying to get in a wreck. He did get in a wreck, in 2 weeks of buying it, and actually seemed placid about having 0'ed out his bank account, 0'ed out his credit, injured himself, etc. I see this same instinct, it's not even riding a bike in a thrilling way to be a thrillseeker, like obesity, there's a drive to suicide through eating.

The article writer didn't have obesity or addiction issues in her family or she wouldn't have masqueraded such a twisted disease as a statement. When you have people like this in your family, they tell you things like this all the time "My obesity is feminism", but it's exhausting, it's sad, these conversations happen around food so often they make you tired.

I'm pretty far left, I'll even admit feminism has alot of good qualities, and I like a few writers and editors for the atlantic. But this magazine has increasingly published disturbing, SJW slop (see the Dunesberry guy's article on Charlie Hebdo, it's slop)

I dont hate women or women writers. I hate self-righteous hacks that blame their shortcomings on society and at the same time use their crippling flaws as symbols of strength.