What's Nietzsche's most accessible work for a beginner and which is the best, most modern translation of said work?
What's Nietzsche's most accessible work for a beginner and which is the best, most modern translation of said work?
John Nguyen
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John Perez
Start with untimely meditations
Luis Harris
I tried thus spoke zippity-do-da and it was just ramblings pretending to be a story. I started reading Beyond good and evil and it's the same thing but way more traditional philosophy format, but with the ferocity of a madman. I don't know whats going on, but god damn am I fired up about it.
Brayden Hughes
What translation do you recommend?
Joseph Butler
>ramblings pretending to be a story
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Jace Morris
Read his genealogy of morals. Most accessible and least amount of faggotry. It's a good read even if all you want is to laugh at his silly ideas.
Samuel Bailey
Which translation?
Ian Sanchez
gay science is a bad beginnig?
John Mitchell
Can anyone talk about translations?
William Wood
they are all accessible except thus spoke zarathustra
Josiah Thompson
Twilight of the Idols is the best place to start. It's not too long, and contains the most succinct overview of all of his ideas. In terms of translation, Kaufmann and Hollingdale are both solid. A first time reader probably won't notice the difference. If you buy Kaufmann's translations in the Portable Nietzsche of the Basic Writings, he will do more in his footnotes to explain things to the uninitiated. The Gay Science is another great place to start, but it's definitely longer more dense.
Jayden Moore
Thank you so much. Finally, some useful information.
Austin Morgan
>useful
Kaufmann footnotes are known to be hilariously bad, somebody might have a screenshot
Adam Cooper
Kaufman
Connor White
I get tired of them sometimes as well, especially the constant references to his own book. But there's useful info in there for a first timer, especially when he just sticks to placing something on the timeline of Nietzsche's opus or situating something in historical context.
Robert Adams
>thus spoke zippity-do-da
Easton Thompson
>Read Nietzsche
>get massive Simpsons effect
>all his ideas percolated into modern society so if you're a young person today you're already familiar with all of them
waste of time unless you're really into history
Levi Bennett
>tfw 99% of this board are too unintelligent to understand him, and thus he will forever be spammed here in a vein attempt to convince strangers on the internet that you're in the 1%
Brayden Mitchell
Nietzsche is like the broken clock thingy.
And when he's right it will pierce your soul.
Benjamin Jackson
>i'm special
Kys
Adrian Garcia
No but it's a relatively big and rambling book, it's better to start with the more focused ones like Genealogy of Morals.
The Birth of Tragedy is actually a great introduction if you've know your Greece a little.
Carson Anderson
I started with Beyond Good and Evil, Marion Faber's translation (Oxford). Kaufmann's is fine too. The preface starts heavy, and goes straight into the heart of the matter, so I recommend you be familiar with some other philosophers before reading it, even if you read some summarized digest of past philosophers (from the Greeks to Nietzsche).
Jaxson Allen
I recommend before reading Nietzsche you read a few things about Nietzsche. If you want to understand him only from his works you'll have to read them all chronologically. If you read some stuff about him first you can jump to the good shit like the Antichrist.
Colton Rivera
i thought that was the seinfeld effect