I believe Nietzsche was correct about Judaism, Christianity and the slave morality...

>Is there any reconciling these two views?
I'm pretty sure that was the whole point and you should read Hegel and dialectics maybe.

Christianity is the jewish inversion of European aristocratic values and strength. It promotes weakness and inverts the norms of society. And it was spread and used by jews to bring down the Roman Empire. (1/2)

Make children you say?

All that anthropomorphic drivel. I am shocked by Nietzsche's enduring popularity.

The jew defines himself in opposition to those he parasitically lives among.

>brought down the Roman Empire
>gave rise to the HRE, the ascendency of all European nations, etc.
Unless you're Italian your nationalism cannot be reconciled with your neopaganism. Europe would be like Afghanistan without the Christian church. The Christian church basically turned all the undermenschen into a fighting force for the aristocracy. Anyway today it is pretty much worthless but revisionist history is petty user come on.

yes, that was actually just furry fanfic about lambs and eagles, there was no other point

Tribal Europe was best europe, the fact is that ancient pre-historic europeans had larger brains and stronger skeletons

The point is he projects all of that crap onto the natural world which completely undermines his whole point. Nature is a good teacher but not if you are incapable as he was of listening, comprehending and most importantly knowing of which you cannot speak, you must not.

One can debate the benefits Christianity had, but that's not my intention here. My intention is to help people understand that Christianity from its outset was promoted to weaken European man by inverting his belief system and aristocratic values that promoted strength and not weakness.
>The Christian church basically turned all the undermenschen into a fighting force for the aristocracy
I don't know what era you're referring to here but it definitely wasn't in the time of Rome, where Christianity was used to weaken the state in a similar way liberalism, which is merely an offshoot of Christianity, is also being used by jews to weaken the state. You'd understand that these things are eternal if you understood the jew.

that's because they interbred with neanderthals

>larger brains
This has no real correlation to intelligence the brain of a blue whale is yuge
>stronger skeletons
This I believe because their diet was probably more healthy

Honestly I think you might be right. The sad truth is that history is written by the colonizers and all the great knowledge of tribal Europe is pretty much lost.

woah holy shit are you actually that stupid that you think he is literally talking about actual lambs and eagles? fucking kill yourself my dude, god damn

It did weaken the average man that is true and civilization in general is geared towards weakening the individual. You are correct that Christianity is the perfect slave morality. However, there is ok alternate history to compare this too and the ones who were taken in by this ruse were weak and gullible enough to be. And they are our ancestors.

>I believe some people gather regularly to report on their progress of their quest of making me feel miserable about what I experience. I call them the jews.

conspiracies are always cringey

I don't think he is but he is using them metaphorically and that is still anthropomorphism and it is still idiotic if he is trying to make nature the model for a new set of values and then he goes on to project human emotion onto animals in order to make nature more relatable he is thereby completely undermining his original intent. Hell if you think reading a book makes you stronger you are already lost.

>This has no real correlation to intelligence the brain of a blue whale is yuge
Brain size most definitely has a high correlation to intelligence, especially within species. Its a fact.

And they didnt have slightly larger brains, but significantly larger brains.
the non-neanderthals had larger brains too

There is no*

Yes, strawmaned conspiracies are cringey

damn dude u r truly stupid, go back to /v/ /pol/ or /b/ or where ever the fuck u came from

Why aren't blue whales writing hamlet?

>This I believe because their diet was probably more healthy

their bones were stronger because they had more muscle mass, which is still evident in europeans today as all the strongest people are from northern and central europe

it's the ratio of brain to body mass, fuck head

>somebody identifies a general trend
>HAHAHAH BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION!??! STATISTICS BTFO!

people like you need to be lined up and shot

Remember, anyone who uses the term "conspiracy theory" is trying to mislead you or they're a sheep mimicking behavior they believe will gain them social status.

People conspire ... that's a simple fact. And inbred jews who comprise much of the institutional elite in the west now of course conspire as well. They push down to the plebs terms like "conspiracy theory" to keep them arguing with each other instead of exposing those who are conspiring. It's a fake term.

Okay well even that would have to take into account the individual brain to the individual body mass unless you think that whites are a seperate species and in any case the difference between the white species and other Homo sapiens would be negligible. My point is your oversimplifying
Why do all the black kids I see playing basketball seemed jacked as hell even at like ten years old then?

>he draws conclusions from general trends
I would say kys but I don't think you could manage to figure out how.

Anyone who uses the phrase "that's a simple fact" is a charlatan or a fool.

>Why do all the black kids I see playing basketball seemed jacked as hell even at like ten years old then?
Because blacks develop faster and because they're muscles are weaker than asians/whites

Even asians do better at weight lifting than blacks

>white species and other Homo sapiens
Europeans: 1,441 cm3
Africans: 1,338 cm3

You can play that game with Nietzsche aswell

>It's not fair, why is slave morality prevalent in Europe? Why can't aristocratic values reign like in the days of the Romans? Stupid plebs! ;_;

... or someone promoting simple facts.

Are you saying that you are inherently smarter than an African with a higher IQ than yours? And okay maybe we are better at lifting weights hell if l know..what does that prove and what does it say about us if we are so easily fooled by the Jews as you claim? Are the Jews the master race then?

Unlike all these people, Nietzsche has nothing to show for it. He wants master morality for himself but actually he is a little bitch who should just be happy about having slave morality.

Facts are meaningless out of the context of logical space. A fact is not an argument anyway. Besides that "people conspire" is just folksy anecdotal bullshit.

>Nietzsche thought he was a great bird of prey
Lmao, Nietzsche was a lamb.

>what does it say about us if we are so easily fooled by the Jews as you claim? Are the Jews the master race then?
Not him, but Europeans evolved in high trust societies where harsh winters necessitated honesty and cooperation. That we've been manipulated by a dishonest and sick tribe of urban semites is not an inherent prescription of our failure ... unless we go extinct through the mass immigration jews are hoisting upon our nations. We must understand the problem, acknowledge why we are the way we are, and remove the problem (the jew).

>Are you saying that you are inherently smarter than an African with a higher IQ than yours?
No? I never even suggested that
> Are the Jews the master race then?

Jews are not a master race because master races as they have been historically known were openly acknowledged as superior and had "aristocratic" traits.

Arabs could be considered a master race, not Jews though, at least not in the traditional sesne.

>what does that prove and what does it say about us if we are so easily fooled by the Jews as you claim?
Whites werent "fooled" by Jews, until the post 1945 indoctrination everybody knew the ways of the Jews. Whites were to lazy and comfort obsessed to stop the Jews, they were not fooled though.

>an argument
Look forward to yours if you ever get around to presenting one.

t. Weak man without Christianity. How has it served you, this age of abandonment?
Why aren't atheists Masters of morality? Why is the west so weak now compared to the Christian times?

Most atheists are morally christian

So if these parasites as you say bring us down the nature has dictated a different path to humanity. We are not in a position to argue it. I don't think you guys realize how marginal the "red pill" is. Anyway personally as a white Eurocentric type my plan is to move to a colder climate and simply develop a k-strategy type survival for my lineage. R-strategists are doomed to failure. Also I am a nazi sort of but more like a Thule group nazi than a hitlerite. I just don't believe in mass politics.

Strong independent thinkers, eh?
Oh well. What about you?

What about me?

How has it served you, this change?

Christianity is exactly what led to the current state of the west. You worship a jewish desert religion that was foisted upon your ancestors at the sword of Charlemagne, whose court was lined with jewish usurers bribing him to murder his own people.

>Christianity is exactly what led to the current state of the west
Christianity had failed to produce the current year for two millenia?

I don't understand what you're trying to say in the first part, but calling yourself a notsee is not going to help. Even the notsees didn't call themselves notsees. It's a jewish word.

>his own people
Germans*, killed by the master morality.

Jewish Christianity sent the west spiraling into the dark ages. It took us several centuries to reconfigure our societies and dig our way out of it. It is a utopian, egalitarian, weak over the strong jewish ideology. It's not for the white man, and was intended to weaken him. We're better off without it and it's dead anyway so good riddance. Now it's time to figure out something new.

Nietzsche criticism of Christianity actually brings down the rest of his philosophy, it reveals nothing more than he was theologically illiterate and rather unread compared to his peers.

What are you trying to say here? I assume you're making the assumption that Charlemagne was not germanic. I used to think the same, but subsequent reading has informed me that he likely was.

I'm saying the idea of outbreeding the third world is impractical, that this is known as r-strategy in terms of survival which is what rats and roaches do; that it is also unrealistic to expect a better outcome than what happened in Germany in the 40's from political solutions if it were tried again today and they on the contrary I pursue a path where I have few children, enrich them financially, morally and intellectually so that they can compete and become dominant over others. My genetic lineage is all I will take responsibility for and I do not fill kinship with the masses of Europe any more than masses of detroit. Also refusing to call yourself something because of the negative ideas that have been a fixed to it is top cuck or taqqiya either way it's cowardly. If the Jews made an epithet for aryanism then all the better to use it--unless you are into mass politics and social acceptance in which case why bother fighting for anything.

That* feel* fucking autocorrect

Onces the system collapses, It will be practical to outbreed them like it was before.

Our more K selected ancestors has more than just a "few" kids.

All race conscious whites must pay minimal taxes and stop buying from large corporations, if we did that we'd win easily.

I agree and honestly things like this are happening they just aren't happening on twitter etc. I come on Veeky Forums in stead of /pol/ because I like discussing literature since literature is one of the gifts of European culture (and this is distinct from other parts of the world) but anyway, k selection today is augmented by the fact that competition is much greater and we aren't for the most part farmers.

>All race conscious whites must pay minimal taxes and stop buying from large corporations

how does not buying from large corporations help anything? should i buy everything from some korean owned grocer instead? is that helping the cause? if it is why are black neighborhoods so shitty then?

/pol/ is crap, a whole bunch of race mixing porn watching wannabe nazis

>k selection today is augmented by the fact that competition is much greater and we aren't for the most part farmers.
There is little competition for the good things in life, and whats wrong with being a farmer? All whites should become self sufficient and stop feeding the beast that wants to end us.

Though I am glad you are generally informed on things like jewish behavior, I find your attitude unfortunate. You are refusing to diverge from the path of rampant individualism and disinheriting any notion that you are part of a greater family, a greater family that made you who you are and whom you may have to rely on one day. Best not to counter-signal too hard, and become aware of why you hold such overt individualistic beliefs. It's not because of you personally, they are a result of what you come from.

>Jewish Christianity
Anti-christian Christianity did what? You have to redefine Jewish for that to make sense.
>sent the west spiraling into the dark ages
Read a book.

Newfag to Veeky Forums here. You guys seem to be pretty Vargpilled. A breath of fresh air from all the Christcucks bashing him. Do you follow his videos and what do you think of his worldview?
Is living a simple and traditional life the only practical answer to the many problems we see in the West?

major corporations are part of the problem, they are an extension of our anti-white governments and are in bed with them. Most openly support "white genocide"/globalism/degeneracy with their ads, donations, products, etc. Even the very best corporations still pay massive taxes which go to our anti-white governments.

The ideal is to make most of what you need yourself and get the rest from other whites that you know personally by trading (no taxes on trading). Every white family CAN grow all their own food if they wanted to, they also COULD stop buying at least 75% of the corporate products that they buy. If they did just that we'd be half way towards victory.

Black neighborhoods are shitty because they're filled with blacks lol

I wish you luck in your struggle to break free from the jewish doctrine that was forced on your ancestors by traitors and which you still carry on the legacy of despite its semitic conceptions and the inherent weakness it promotes.

>Is living a simple and traditional life the only practical answer to the many problems we see in the West?
Its the easiest and most obvious way to stop the problems... stop supporting the system.

You dont need to be "vargpilled" you just need to be a non-retard and to actually believe in the cause.

All "white nationalists" know that the corporations and governments want to destroy us, but so few actually take the steps to stop supporting them. Why? because they are either brain dead or they dont really care

I personally know nothing of Varg. But have heard negative things about his general impact on the advancement of white interests.

so basically you're advocating white people turn themselves into subsistence farmers like some kind of fags in africa? are (((you))) sure you're really white? seems like you might be trying to trick me into impoverishing my family, no thanks

Nothing is wrong with being a farmer but one of the major strategies of control is to make farming too expensive and unlucrative for the average person. And by average I don't even mean poor i mean relatively well to do people. I make a decent salary and I am going to buy land but my farming will be mostly for supplementing my subsistence and I will definitely have to do some kind of skilled work to make ends meet (I am a Survey tech going to school for GIS engineering). I want my kids to be able to do the same so instead of making them do the labor intensive work of a farmer's sons I will give them plenty of free time to study and get some kind of skills that will help them succeed. Honestly I wish I could be a farmer but it's just not practical with Monsanto.
I just don't see most white people as being any different from most other races these days and in some ways they are worse because they are so self destructive and against life. Our relative prosperity has made us sodden with the comforts of life. I try to remember that the population of Europe has many times dwindled to very small numbers and revived. but what is the Jewish endgame? Any world they build on degeneracy and sub humans will descend into chaos and destroy them. Look at Brazil or Venezuela for example. Time is vast, it is in fact timeless and I believe the aristocratic view of time, of maintaining what is truly Human in us vs. descending to the level of beasts in order to triumph is best. I'm not making much sense and I plan on writing it all out soon. I wish there were books for this feeling but there are so few.

Fred is turbo fedora tipper, I can't believe people actually take him seriously.

He was a beta cuck incarnate; probably had a small penis too. His whole oeuvre is just a post-facto rationalization of him being a beta. If he wasn't autistic and had a big dick, his work wouldn't have existed.

I, too, wish to be free of porn and the surrounding manufactured opinions and world views.
Varg and the brainlets associated with him need to go. It's merely the denial of guilt altogether since post Imperial Europe, guilt has been the way to manipulate people.
>Oy vey muh holocaust
>muh crusades
>muh colonialism
One sided history doesn't work.

I actually really like Varg; he is not like the angsty bitter altright who rage against society just like their sjw counterparts; he has a sense of humor about him which I think is truly nietzschean. I also like his early music and some of his later stuff. Wish he would write a book.

>Yes, Goy, unless you pay thousands in taxes and buy our corporate products you are impoverished! Let us continue to genocide you by distracting you with meaningless comforts!

By farming I just mean enough for your own family. If you farm/raise your own food and already own your property how much money would you actually need? I cant imagine it being more than 1-2k a month.

>Wish he would write a book.
He wrote several

He is bitter, listening to any video of his shows this. I don't think he has dealt with Viking raids or his own crimes. I don't think he wants to. It's easier to blame 'others'.

what a retard

You wrote this post to make yourself feel better

Oh yeah it can be done and I think more people should do it. The only thing that fucks with me is that you and all your children will always have to pay tax on the land and the property on the land its crazy how much federalism fucked this country up. I detest slavery as an institution but in all other ways I wish the south would have won.

Varg doesn't have anything on Richard Spencer who a lot of people assume is a double agent.

you do realize christianity is a farmer's religion, which is why the urban jews didn't bother to convert? if you want to battle the jews turning yourself into a peasant hill billy isn't going to work, but then again i think (((you))) already know that

He already has, pic related.
I'm waiting on the English translation of his wife's Le Secret De L'Ourse (The Secret of the She-Bear) which covers the very old European bear cult which has its origins in Neanderthal rituals - something like this probably has metaphysical importance in regards to European spirituality.

Hm I didn't realize that he's not widely distributed I suppose.
I don't think he is bitter at all he obviously trolls the hell out of his viewers and then he says something so interesting (like how Celtic Christianity was so different than mainline Christianity) and I become a little more knowledgeable. I think you're just jealous.

>What christian philosophers would provide a good foil to Nietzsche's criticism?

>lets talk about the jews

lmao has /pol/ ever been more transparent?

Ha okay just become a rootless cosmopolitan that will really make (((them))) mad lol if you don't realize that owning land is the major thing separating an aristocrat from a peasant you are brain dead. Or more likely in denial.

>christianity is a farmer's religion
Do you even know what "pagan" means? Cities have always been hotbeds of degeneracy, both 1000 yeas ago and today.

Trannies and niggers are rare in rural areas. White heaven.

>t. A brave keyboard warrior battling the Jews by paying them rent and working in their usurer economy

>I think you're just jealous
Of what?
One of his latest videos tells how he has no hope for the future. He refuses discussion. He ignores most of human and western history for his victimhood narrative.

Jealous that people listen to him and not you.

>owning land

yeah, if u have a bunch of peasants to work it for u, idiot

It consistently amuses me when people try to criticize Nietzsche with the own framework he glorified of strength and weakness. It's because they know it's too ridiculous to say "He's evil!", because obviously he's very purposeful about subverting morality and glorifying what people think of as evil.

So, failing that, they attack his strength of character and even physical strength, calling him weak, not realizing that they're using the same master morality he glorified.

Nietzsche corrupts even his haters and enemies.

This is the average "white nationalist".

>Work at Goldstienberg's company as wageslave
>Pay thousands in ((taxes))
>Watch porn produced by Schlomo Bigdigracemixterstienberger
>refuses to date white women cuz of muh mgtow
>shitpost on /pol/ about muh jews

First we hang the non-whites and race traitors, then we hang the poltards

I've heard rumours Varg's expertise on certain aspects of Scandinavia are actually in wide request in some academic/media circles, which is how he makes most of his money.

Never understood this. How can you attribute "rent" and and entire economy to one single ethnicity, especially in the context of something as subjective as rent? You do realize that there are whites, blacks, asians, indians, natives that ALL hold greedy sentiments? No one is exempt and there are people of all different ethnicity that will try and fuck you over because they want to make money off of you. This is not exclusive to a single group. If you cannot understand this, you will. Stop calling trash people "jews" and you might get somewhere with your points about the overarching actual problems that you're trying to address before stumbling over your own fucking stupidity into "hurr durr jews", which in the public eye makes you immediately disregarded.