Whats the closest thing we have to actual "tomes of forbidden knowledge"? This isn't /x/ retardation...

bump for interest.

probably any far-right/ultranationalist "manifesto"
they're more suppressed than literal gore smut these days

My Twisted World

What are you wanting to get out of forbidden knowledge? I'm not trying to call you an edgelord, but I don't think what you say you're looking for exists. Figure out what you're specifically wanting out of it and search for that.

this

These are the closest things that are actually books, in my opinion. Something you can go buy on Amazon hardly counts as "forbidden".
But anything you legitimately shouldn't be reading in 2017 is going to an internet form of communication, a text file or an e-mail log or something. Not a book.

Crowley's & Cayce's personal records, handwritten works, at the very least. Anything the Vatican or powerful world leaders, be they in politics or business, have hidden.

Definitely some of the older eastern stuff
>one guy spent around 60 years of his life trying to become a "master" and barely made it past adept, lighting a crumpled newspaper on fire by focusing on it

probably the bell curve, to be honest. it's not what you want to hear, but there isn't any greater taboo in modern society than the myth of human equality. people have great difficulty coming to terms with the fact that humans are nothing more than animals and the terrifying implications that implies.

>in b4 muh /pol/ boogeyman
>in b4 logical fallacies and rhetorical slights of hand that ignore the meat of the matter (average cognitive differences among populations)
>in b4 i'm an edgy stirnerite leftist but also a church lady when it comes to racism

yes, discrete human populations were geographically separated for tens of thousands of years, in radically different environments, with different selection pressures, causing them have objectively different physical characteristics and resistance to certain diseases, and yet they magically have the exact same level of cognitive ability, in an astronomical logic-defying coincidence that conveniently vindicates the ruling class and their ideology.

What happened to them tittays?

Philosophers like Sloterdijk are coming to terms with it. Very slowly, but it'll happen.

Probably this. People aren't born equal.

It was widely published though :^)

i guess you could view anything that has the potential to entirely restructure your view of the world or reality has the potential to be a "forbidden" text.

>humans are nothing more than animals
That's not the truth though.

>Le red pill
>Posting /pol/ memes while straight face claiming /pol/ is a boogeyman.
>Using this thread as a place to soapbox about their political and social views.
I feel like OP should have expected this but its still disappointing.

The only non-pornographic books that are consistently banned in the free world of western society, on a widespread governmental level in multiple countries, are books that investigate the Holocaust. Take that as you will.

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Right wing thought. Check out the /pol/ monthly book packs

this book seems to have become completely unavailable
goodreads.com/book/show/4264259-lord-horror

>hey guis, give me some forbidden knowledge
>woah, not that forbidden, wtf?

It's not forbidden knowledge, it's just /pol/ carting out their victim complex again while soap-boxing.

Except it is. HBD may or may not be a sensible theory, but humans - me and probably you - are in fact animals.

The only one here talking about red pills is you.

Any book that is banned is knowledge that is forbidden. It's just not the answer you want to hear.

I dunno, but I've been uncomfortable in my mind since I started reading Beyond Good and Evil.

I was in a university bookstore at a major university in one of the most liberal cities in the United States not too long ago, and they had print copies on the shelf.

Just look up banned books OP.

Lol ye right get back to /pol/, sincerely reddit infiltration force

>The only one here talking about red pills is you.
"The Red Pill" is known by many to refer to the collected body of far right opinions that they believe people should swallow and as we can see here it has come out in full force. What is with this tactic of /pol/ spraying their shit everywhere and then pretending that everyone else is imagining everything even though we can all see all thread replies?

>Any book that is banned is knowledge that is forbidden
None of those books are banned though, at least not in the US.

People are far from equal, agreed.

That's why we need socialism.

okay, so tell me then, how is it possible that discrete human populations, geographically separated for tens of thousands of years, in radically different environmental contexts, with radically different selection pressures, that, as a result, have developed objectively different physical appearances, resistances to diseases, musculature, bone density, etc. that no one disputes, would miraculously have the same exact level of cognitive ability, despite more or less everything else being shaped by the blind, amoral laws of natural selection? do you think cognitive ability isn't determined by genetics (and if so, why do you think that?), or do you just straight up not believe in evolution?

pointing to some autistic man from /pol/ who uncritically believes infographics isn't an argument.

btw, one thing i've noticed about all leftists (and this includes both Veeky Forums-style marxists and neoliberal elites who hate the wwc and want to starve out states/counties that supported trump) is that they all lowkey believe in phrenology when it comes to people who argue with them online, and even seem to hold the extremely reactionary, quasi-fascist view that ugliness/aesthetic vulgarity/caste/etc. is itself a refutation. in other words, group differences among human populations isn't false because of any evidence or arguments against it. it's false because a kissless virgin wearing nike monarchs and a funny hat said it was true. it's false because some tschandala with a low-status job from the hinterlands might believe something like that. all the the pretty people and well-heeled gentlefolk believe that magic overrides big mean natural selection. therefore, that must be the truth.

well, okay, i guess. it's not like i think these things can be reversed or I have any hope of changing things.

>thread takes the unavoidable turn to politics
>omg /pol/ out in force here today
>go back to /pol/ you redditor
>/pol/ needs to leave
>/pol/ this, /pol/ that
I'm /pol/ too right? Go ahead, grant me that (you).

Tell me how you are more cognitively capable than a black person who's IQ is higher than yours?

For one thing you people have yet to identify what factors went into developing these cognitive changes. You claim to have results indicating a difference in intelligence across races (even though much of the time it is difficult to pin down discrete races). Yet we never get any sort of elaboration of anything past that. It's like you people dropped into the sciences just long enough to grab the book which confirms your biases and ran off with it to circle-jerk for eternity without any followup or the use of any of the rigor which all other fields of study have to use.

>btw, one thing i've noticed about all leftists (and this includes both Veeky Forums-style marxists and neoliberal elites who hate the wwc and want to starve out states/counties that supported trump) is that they all lowkey believe in phrenology when it comes to people who argue with them online, and even seem to hold the extremely reactionary, quasi-fascist view that ugliness/aesthetic vulgarity/caste/etc. is itself a refutation. in other words, group differences among human populations isn't false because of any evidence or arguments against it. it's false because a kissless virgin wearing nike monarchs and a funny hat said it was true. it's false because some tschandala with a low-status job from the hinterlands might believe something like that. all the the pretty people and well-heeled gentlefolk believe that magic overrides big mean natural selection. therefore, that must be the truth.

Holy strawman Batman!

Design documents for nuclear weapons.
Most research into synthetic biology is restricted from public access if not outright classified at this point.
Lots of countries suppress or ban political material, especially "right-wing" arguments for slavery, against democracy, etc.

i'm not? the fact that you would even ask that shows you have a comical misunderstanding of my position.

i'll put it this way. if you were able to devise a method for testing a person's intelligence with 100% accuracy, and you tested everyone in the world, then every race, ethnic group, and nationality would be represented among the top 99th percentile... just not equally. the overwhelming majority would be heavily white and heavily asian. within those groups, you would even see certain subgroups more well-represented than others. among whites, you would see a lot more jews and northern europeans than southern and eastern europeans, among asians, you would see far more east asians than south asians. on the very bottom of this pyramid, you would see black people much, much more highly represented than any other group. yet no one, not charles murray, not anyone, not even literal neonazis and klansmen, has ever made the claim that every single white person is smarter than every single black person. or that even single asian person is smarter than every single white person. the discussion is over averages, and there are implications to this, especially when popular opinion says that anything less than equally of outcome is evidence of racism, and that there can be no rational, ethical objection to mass immigration from third world countries with

expanding on that, the claim being made here, while controversial, should be more or less self-evident if you put aside your personal prejudices and critically think about it for more than two seconds. this should be true regardless of how you feel about iq tests or how murky you might think racial categories can be at times. just think about it. even leaving aside evolution, why on earth should it be the case that, on the one hand, individuals would be unequal, but on the other, groups would be absolutely equal? even if every race had evolved in an identical environment, with identical selection pressures, and so on, wouldn't it still be extremely unlikely, as a matter of pure randomness, that these divergent populations would have coincidentally developed the exact same cognitive abilities? so every race/ethnicity/nationality/etc. that ever existed is exactly the same? doesn't that seem a bit like having a bunch of people all rolling die at the same time and having them all come up 7? even if you were to select groups of people based on literally any characteristic, like, say, people with blue eyes vs. people with brown eyes vs. people with green eyes, or even just two or more groups chosen at random, and then you tried to test their intelligence, it's still extremely unlikely, as a matter of pure chance, that these groups, even if they were selected arbitrarily, would have the exact same level of intelligence. those differences might small or large, but they would definitely be there. to believe that every racial and ethnic group is equal in terms of intelligence, you would presumably have to believe that there is some sort of mechanism that allows for intellectual diffences to manifest themselves within individuals, often drastically... but somehow stops them from manifest themselves at all in groups by sprinkling g on the ones slacking behind. it's absurd.

or maybe you think there might be differences, but they can't be large? even time wise has conceded that's possible. but to me, that seems like a weird thing to insist on. there can be differences, but they can't be large differences? why? because it makes you uncomfortable? if there are little differences, there can be big ones. it's just a matter of proving it, which admittedly is somewhat hard given that the opposing side totally rejects IQ tests (unless they say racists have low IQs), historical evidence, social science data, etc. and forces you to perfectly define nebulous concepts and prove everything as an absolute certainty before you can even have the conversation. this isn't how things are approached with literally any other political or social question. anything else with an equivalent or even significantly smaller degree of support would be considered gospel by now.

Religion is filled with "forbidden knowledge". pick any and you'll find tons of shit that wasn't supposed to be proliferated or even revealed to the lay public.

Nah, there's no way that the most powerful Jews in the world would have been as dumb and said such dull things as the Protocols make it seem.

Like what?

Mitchell Heisman's 'suicide note'

>Seek out a mystery school if you want to know the mysteries.

Basically any Right Wing literature, as this thread demonstrates. Doesn't matter what ideology or who the author is, if they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton then it's included here. Yes, that means everything from Plato to the Bell Curve to Mein Kampf.

ISIS's magazine. I can't remember what it's called. Don't actually google it or try to look it up unless you feel like ending up on a watch list. No, really, you will actually end up on a watch list just from Googling it.

The original, pre-CIA alteration, Anarchist Cookbook.

Organic Chemistry, Drugs, and Explosives.

There's probably quite a few texts on hacking various forms of communication media that the government doesn't want you to read about. And I mean everything from early shit on how to mess with fax machines via a payphone to modern Weev type stuff.

Islamic Mysticism will get you murdered in a large number of countries.

then heidegger might speak to you, take a look. the journey begins with a step, you don't have to agree with everything he says or enter into the arena of philosophical debate to gain from it.

>Basically any Right Wing literature
>if they wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton then it's included here
>Plato
Jesus Christ. This has to be the single biggest victim complex I have seen in my life.

I've seen some pizza grooming guides in the now honeypot side of the web, never read it though. That's pretty much as forbidden as it gets.

I didn't say we aren't animals. I disagree with the notion that we are "nothing more than animals." The human is far more complex than any other animal on the planet and can become so much more than any animal can.

What should I read to learn more about this? Being and Time?

>days are a social construct

Literally what. /pol/ is fucking right about this getting ridiculous.

>/pol/ faggots ruining another thread
I'm not even surprised

Realistically the only things that will get you into trouble with the state are:

1. Classified documents related to CBRN defence.

2. Qutbist literature

That being said, the posters on this thread who mention things like holocaust denialism and anti-egalitarian/fascist literature are 100% correct in that these are forbidden from *socially*. It's legal to possess it in North America, but imagine openly talking about the correlation between race and IQ with people you work with. There's a good chance you would end up fired and blacklisted from whatever industry you're in.

yes boy, there are never enough links to it
geenstijl.nl/archives/images/suicide_note.pdf

Why doesn't Sayyid Qutb get mentioned more often? He'd be a good person to study nowadays.

>1905 page suicide note

>Plato
I literally bought Platos republic months ago. What's your point?
>if you didn't vote Hillary

/pol/ please go

It's good stuff, I swear. Just very amauterish.

What is Qutbism?

Radical Islamic literature

>the posters on this thread who mention things like holocaust denialism and anti-egalitarian/fascist literature are 100% correct in that these are forbidden from *socially*

That is technically true though I think it somewhat deviates from the spirit of the question. There should be a distinction made between books that are socially unacceptable and books which in some way resemble the types of "forbidden texts" you would find in fiction. Admittedly that is difficult since the trope version of these books mostly include the supernatural in some way and we can't drag down this board by playing pretend.

This. Not OP, but I'd like something with that horror element to it, without being actual horror fiction (and certainly not something like Cyclonopedia).

Something interesting, something awful, something that will shake us.

This alone was worth the thread. Here is your answear, OP. Though the book is not forbidden, It's a really polemical position to hold nowdays, worse it might be true. Anyone who publically hold that point will be in serious danger of being put to ostracism. I think it's an interesting case where science conflits our idea of ethics.
I leave here a question: Once we have that knowledge, what do you think we should do with that? I think the answear is NOTHING.

>Something interesting, something awful, something that will shake us.

The best example I can think of is those photo albums of images of child sexual abuse that the police take from pedophiles and have to examine before storing it away in the evidence locker. However unlikely, they would be pretty goddamned horrifying to stumble upon in a library, though highly educational. It is actually lovecraftian in a way. It is the truth of the world that lives behind the thin veil of normalcy, with levels of degeneracy which are unfathomable to most people, and if you stumble upon it it can fuck up your soul, I've heard that the guys who have to look through that evidence can get fucked up for life if they can't mentally space out.

Any other crime documents which are disturbing in nature.

Cult manifestos?

I also suppose those books which are bound in human leather are kinda creepy but that doesn't necessarily mean the subject matter is awful. You could very well bind the Lorax with human skin for whatever reason.

>I leave here a question: Once we have that knowledge, what do you think we should do with that? I think the answear is NOTHING.

This. There really isn't any policy we could take with this which isn't completely contrary to all of our values. Also every society thus far based around the idea of inherent cognitive differences between races has been horrifying.

Why isn't 1984 banned though? It almost completely denounces today's structure of society in a direct way.

Kabbalistic, hermetic, alchemical, etc. writings like the chemical wedding of christian rosenkranz, the kybalion, gospel of thomas, etc.

Maybe some Aleister Crowley stuff, Israel Regardie.

Protocols of the learned elders of Zion

>Mien Kampf
>The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
>Anything written by terrorists, serial killers/rapists

This.

Or rather, occult knowledge in general.
Most Barnes and Noble type places give it only a peripheral consideration and condemn it to neighboring genre categorization that is beneath its reality as an ancient heritage of knowledge relevant to human well being.

My local barnes and nobles has all those books and a whole row dedicated to occultism and esotercisim. Maybe that's because I live in a Jewish neighborhood though.

Literally learn to fucking read.

Just read an article on him and find it somewhat funny how his family responded to it. I'll have to read the "note" sometime, seems intriguing.

Well, , and pretty much sum up that the myth of equality is the Noble Lie.

Time is an illusion of consciousness.

Scientists recently discovered that our brains are organized in upper dimensional structures as in 4th+ dimensions. Time is completely illusional for the sake of comprehension. Check out Joseph Cambell and Carl Jung.

Might is Right. It is just distilled, practical Stirner, Nietzsche, Sade, Machiavelli et al
It it is what you'd expect based on the title, but with great 1800s prose and verve. All who have power, wealth, love etc deserve to according to the law of nature; who could say otherwise? In true Nietzschen form it even gives Jews their due for having greatly outsized wealth and influence

Who are the lords of hoarded gold-
the silent Semite rings.
Who are the plunder patriots-
high pontiffs, priests and kings.
Who are they but bold masterminds,
best fitted for the fray
Who comprehend and vanquish by
the logic of today

>Scientists recently discovered that our brains are organized in upper dimensional structures as in 4th+ dimensions

Nag Hammadi tomes
The Pillars of Tubal-Cain
Crowley books
Liber Null
Jung's Red Book
Eliphas Levi's writings
Stalislas de Guaita
Chamberlain (Adam - Red God)
Pikatrix / Book of Worms
and various other Grimoires.

harry potter and the well of forbidden knowledge

Although not exactly hidden or forbidden knowledge, I believe this book and the following 'Preventive medicine' by the same author is one of those books of "forbidden knowledge" that people are quick to label with derogatory terms before analyzing the contents. If you have taken the time to read it and consider the consequences of its arguments into your daily life you will either be extremely liberated or utterly dismayed. Perhaps it is for the best because it is a rather dense text for most normies but it is the essential 'red pill' to human sexual relationship understanding and therefore operating mechanism of human societies. Some people just want to eat their fake steak in peace. This is truly knowledge that most people would rather forget and forbid in order to keep the peace.

'The Myth of the Twentieth Century' is good for this topic as well.

The corpus hermeticum.

Transcripts of prepublished material stolen directly from the author.

>The best example I can think of is those photo albums of images of child sexual abuse that the police take from pedophiles and have to examine before storing it away in the evidence locker.

Pff how bad can it be

>>>Mien Kampf

Ameritard

Knows only one language

But also can't even write their own language correctly

Lmao

The books about the various method for suicide. liberals ban it, since they do not have an answer to suicide, besides resorting to hedonism ''enjoying life is good''

Within buddhism there is a lot of "secret" texts limited to those who have transmission and can get the right explanation from the master so they do not misunderstand it.

Are you 16?

That sounds retarded.

I think the closest you will find to "forbidden knowledge" are the class elite's connections to esotericism and occultism in western society. It's been around forever, and remains extremely tight lipped. Not sure what kind of legitimate literature there is that isn't widely speculative conspiracy theory bullshit instead of an actual historical study on elite secret organizations and how they have evolved today.

Just as a possible qualification to your argument, what about environmental issues? What if low cognitive ability can be accounted for geographically? Living in shithole Africa makes you bad at iq tests? Maybe your pefect census would even out a little if the standard wasn't simply being a human, but being a human from a reasonably civilized environment. There would probably still be discrepancies, but they might not seem so dangerously profound.

What's it about?

I don't understand how the first three aren't already accounted for.

There is none, that's the thing. We can read the most radical, violent, taboo shit and still be sucked back into modern society by distractions and hedonism.

Ironically, the most dangerous types of books under capitalism are about morality and religion. Society has no way to deal with virtuous people.

This is the standard answer, but I think it's retarded. Sub-human populations slow social progress and cannot rule themselves. If African-Americans could get their own country, everybody would be much happier.

There's always the chance that you can never look your sons/daughters, nieces/nephews, or little brothers/sisters in the eyes ever again, lest you dig up repressed mental images of damned children and have your mind automatically put your little ones faces in their place.

sexually depraved to the highest degree, it's like the parts of /d/ you avoid, but worse (guro, etc.).