Need some help Veeky Forums I'm looking for books that talks about the human psychology any philosophers worth a read

Need some help Veeky Forums I'm looking for books that talks about the human psychology any philosophers worth a read

If I understand your question correctly, you are looking for William James

Why does Schopenhauer look like my Austrian maths prof

No such thing as a unified "human psychology".

Thanks user
Any books that tackles on the subject matter will do really

>I'm looking for books that talks about the human psychology
Interesting.
>any philosophers worth a read
Hahahahahhahhahahahahhaa

Nietzsche & Kahneman. You're all set.

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This is my History of Psychology reading list:
Plato - Soul, ideas, and knowledege
Aristotle - On the Soul
Seneca the Younger - Wise man's ideal
Plotinus - Nature of the Soul
Thomas Aquinas - Disputed Questions on the Soul
William of Okham - Occam's razor, Theory of knowledge
Michel de Montaigne - Intelligence et vertus animales
Francis Bacon - Scientific works
Galileo Galilei - Mathematics and objectivity

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René Descartes - Discourse on the Method
Thomas Hobbes - Leviathan
Baruch Spinoza - Double aspect theory
John Locke - An Essay Concerning Human Understanding
Geroge Berkeley - A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge, Part I
David Hume - An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding
Julien Offray de la Mettrie - L'Homme Machine
David Hartley - Man, his Frame, his Duty, and his Expectations
Étienne Bonnot de Condillac - Traité des sensations
Jean Jacques Rousseau - Emile, or On Education

this user gets it. basically all of the great books are treatises on human psychology op. it's collective civilizational encyclopaedia

the based western canon awaits

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Gottfried W. Leibniz - Nouveaux essais sur l'entendement humain.
Franz Anton Mesmer - Mémoire sur la découverte du magnétisme animal
Thomas Reid - Essays on the Intellectual Powers of Man
Jeremy Bentham - The Principles of Morals and Legislation
Immanuel Kant - Critique of Practical Reason
Franz Joseph Gall - Phrenology works
James Mill - An Analysis of the Phenomena of the Human Mind, 2 volumes
John Stuart Mill - A System of Logic
Auguste Comte - A general view of positivism
Herbert Spencer - Principles of Psychology

I'm glad someone is reading.

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Charles Darwin - On the Origin of Species
Hermann von Helmholtz - Treatise on Physiological Optics, three volumes
Francis Galton - Hereditary Genius
Franz Brentano - Psychology from an Empirical Standpoint
Gustav T. Fechner - Revision der Hauptpuncte der Psychophysik
Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man
Hermann Ebbinghaus - Memory: A contribution to experimental psychology
Ernst Mach - The Analysis of Sensations
William James - The Principles of Psychology
Frederic W. H. Myers - Science and a Future Life: With Other Essays

going to save your posts when you're finished, one of the better reading lists i've seen on Veeky Forums

patrician work mi amigo

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Conwy L. Morgan - Morgan's Canon
John Dewey - The Reflex Arc Concept in Psychology
Wilhelm Wundt - Outline of Psychology
Wilhelm Wundt - On the Definition of Psychology
Edward L. Thorndike - Some Experiments on Animal Intelligence
Edward B. Titchener - A Primer of Psychology
Robert Yerkes - Animal Psychology and Criteria of the Psychic
James R. Agell - The Province of Functional Psychology
Oswald Külpe - Vorlesungen über Psychologic. Über die moderne Psychologic des Denkens
John B. Watson - Psychology as the Behaviorist Views it

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Wolgang Köhler - Perception and learning from a Gestalt perspective
Sigmund Freud - Civilization and Its Discontents
John B. Watson - Behaviorism
Edward C. Tolman - Purposive Behavior in Animals and Men
Ivan P. Pavlov - Conditioned reflexes discovery
Sigmund Freud - Moses and Monotheism
Clark L. Hull - Principles of Behavior
Alan M. Turing - The imitation game
Burrhus F. Skinner - Operant Conditioning
Leon Festinger - A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance

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Noam Chomsky - Review of B. F. Skinner's 1957 book Verbal Behavior
Neal E. Miller - Psychoanalysis as seen by a learning psychologist
Carl Rogers - A Theory of Therapy, Personality and Interpersonal Relationships as Developed in the Client-centered Framework.
George Armitage Miller - Plans and the Structure of Behavior
Keller & Marian Breland - The misbehavior of organisms
Herbert A. Simon - The brain as 'hardware'
Ulric Neisser - Cognitive Psychology
Jean Piaget - Structuralism
Thomas Szasz - The Manufacture of Madness
Abraham H. Maslow - The Farther Reaches of Human Nature

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Burrhus F. Skinner - Beyond Freedom and Dignity
Roy Lachman - Cognitive Psychology and Information Processing: An Introduction
John Searle - Chinese room argument
David E. Rumelhart - Parallel Distributed Processing: Explorations in the Microstructure of Cognition
Jerome S. Bruner - Actual Minds, Possible Worlds

The list is in chronological order, so you can understand the influences between the authors.

>it's collective civilizational encyclopaedia
What do you mean by this? That all of this stuff might be straight up wrong in certain cases? Shit...
I feel like it would be really sad to read through all of this and not be able to apply it into defining wheter or not someone is likely to do this or whatever.
I know that in the end wanting to read this for muh social engineering is retarded, but at least some degree of social benefit would be nice to gain.

Denial of Death.

Would you recommend Julian Jaynes? What about philosophy of cognitive science by Jose Luiz Bermudes (sp?)?

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>Would you recommend Julian Jaynes?
His book is just non-scientific bullshit. If you think the Earth is flat, go for it.
>What about philosophy of cognitive science by Jose Luiz Bermudes (sp?)?
Is a textbook, a never read it. But judging by the Amazon review, this book is just a compilation of the research from the 50s to the 90s.
You'll be ok reading it but is nothing new. Cognitive psychology is evolving every day. To keep up to date you should start reading about machine learning too, but machines are not my field.

>His book is just non-scientific bullshit. If you think the Earth is flat, go for it.

What is non-scientific about Julian Jaynes? His theories about how consciousness developed throughout history is somewhat falsifiable through anthropological, archaeological, and literary studies. And it's not like he was pulling shit out of his ass: he worked off of (at the time) contemporary advances in neuroanatomy to support the hypothesis of a bicameral mind, and it's not like we've learned enough about the mind to disprove those discoveries in particular. Julian Jaynes also did some great work on describing what consciousness "is" in its basic elements, and many intro. psychology textbooks cite definitions from him because they're useful in describing something that otherwise feels nebulous and vast.

I think Jaynes is great to read alongside Jung, Freud, etc. in addition to the foundations of cognitive science (behaviorism, cognitive revolution, neural networks, etc.) and modern developments because nobody else is trying to create some sort of master theory behind how mental phenomena manifests itself. It's great to maintain scientific rigor if you can, but there's plenty of non-scientific stuff that can provide inspiration for scientific experimentation. Modern research is all about boring mechanical stuff that often can't even be replicated in an experiment, let alone observed in day-to-day life with some sort of consistency. Where else are you going to get the kind of "big picture" motivating focus with such a sterile mindset?

>Is a textbook, a never read it. But judging by the Amazon review, this book is just a compilation of the research from the 50s to the 90s.

Philosophical research?

>You'll be ok reading it but is nothing new. Cognitive psychology is evolving every day. To keep up to date you should start reading about machine learning too, but machines are not my field.

Good advice.

>And it's not like he was pulling shit out of his ass
You can't replicate anything he says, so is not science.
>Philosophical research?
Kind of, psychology is the science of philosophy. But cognitive psychology is also a mixed bag of neurology, computer science, and pure philosophy.

>You can't replicate anything he says, so is not science.
Can't replicate most psychological research. And you can still falsify Jaynes's claims by looking at the historical record and seeing whether his model matches, though it should be noted that 1) changing the theory to fit the data doesn't work; and 2) if the theory can't steer human development in new directions, then it wasn't founded on any real principles of the mind.

Also, are you the same user who posted that list earlier in the thread?

>>You can't replicate anything he says, so is not science.
tell 3 things I can replicate

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last bump before I get the message that only NEETs and underages are online and all the smart people went to greener pastures

Oh shut up, you hoity-toity

I'm reading Denial of Death, but feel a bit out of my depth - specifically looks like I need to read some Freud. Suggestions where to start? Something covering Oedipus compels, castration complex, etc. Thanks!