"You will never represent, Raphael, a young girl's erotic dream...

Houellebecq's a giant frog, at least the protagonists in his first novels are.
But even then *he* didn't off himself, and took a milder outlook on life with his later novels.

Lolita desu

everyone is missing out on something, knowingly or not

its not the end of the world op. if you want romance badly enough you will find it

How often do r9k posts address someone named Raphael?

Just jack off a lot. Sometimes the pornstars pretend to talk to you. It's quite ironic at times

I don't know, maybe r9k started writing a collaborative novel. Yes, it was weird at first but the rest of the quote is so perfectly fitting...

>it was weird at first
It literally starts with "you will never", the frogposter's mantra.

Sex is the the plebeian thing a man can do and normies think that ''the only thing which connects us to beast is sex'' which is super retarded and actually is clue to spot normies. Sex for humans (well men more than women) is the opposite of what animals do.
Your life would actually be better if what you call sex would be what animals do: a bit of fight for men (like they love to do now to feed their spook of merit), but once year and it may or may not lead to pregnancy in a roastie.

Also, normies imagine that sex and orgasms (since it wall they know to do) is the way to stop pessimism, >muh schopenhaeur did not have sex enough, some gateway to the spooks of ''transcendence'', immanence'', or for the smart-ass circlejarking over the stop of any dichotomy by oxymorons, the ''immanence through transcendence'' or ''the transcendence through the immanence''
this is all cute and right if you want stay a normie, but if you want to stop being unhappy, and actually do something relevant once in your life, the first thing to stop doing is sex money, entertainment, lying and caring about what men do to feed their spoook of compassion and their opposite spook of dominance and hierarchy.

But of course liberals being hedonists like anybody on earth, they cannot stand hearing that ''sex is for reproduction only if you want to stop being a plebs'' which reminds them too much of being ruled by christians. women can see and experience sex as sex, meaning physical pleasure,, but sex for men is never ever about sex which makes them oddly enough so pathetic that it could be an exit for them to all this desire of impressing women and ''improving'' daily life with more pleasures (physical and intellectual) and less pains and use this as means to boast.

Stick to fapping if you can, or at least to not cum, but do not expect to achieve anything (at least on your own) in your life if you keep caring about sex (while claiming that sex is nothing sacred, like the liberals, yet, still like the liberals, spending your day whining about rape and creating rules about sex, believing that is is an activity worthy of discussing so much at diner (with friends before a swinger party) and in their entertainment since they have been reducing the will to the libido to the sexual libido after centuries of having faith in the individual will whose pinnacle is the consent through freedom called by them the self-determination (by studying nature or society or having no boss)) .

>How do I live a life without romance?
Keep doing all the things that your physical body tells you to do. Things aren't going to get better. Once you've realized that you missed out on "pure" youth love, there is no undoing that epiphany. It's like R9K or r/TRP; once you've realized that people are fundamentally selfish creatures that only do things that benefit themselves, you can't go back.

Luckily, you have millions of years of evolution on your side. Your body will keep on fighting until the end.

The problem is that your body has no self-conciousness.I can't have a coversation with my penis and subconciousness to tone down the sex drive and lack to match our sexual market value.They'll crave it just as if I were the wild stallion.

Do what Houellebecq does.

And where can I find good guidelines for meditation? How to do it properly...

0/10

>adolescent loves
What a joke. I had a couple of gfs as a teen, they were all hot but swallow as fuck, so it was just lust rather than love what I felt. Actual love comes at any age, and if you really want it you should look for it and work for it.
Just keep in mind that if you can't deal with yourself while being alone, you won't be able to deal with another person's life.

I love this quote from Stoner:
>In his forty-third year William Stoner learned what others, much younger, had learned before him: that the person one loves at first is not the person one loves at last, and that love is not an end but a process through which one person attempts to know another.

>swallow as fuck
H O T
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In this post-Freudian age the institution of marriage, as a by-product of religiously-fuelled monogamy, has deteriorated to the point that amorphous sexual identity, as opposed to rigid religiosity, has become the primary self-defining feature of the individual. But has anything changed? Has the entrapment of woman via marriage which Blake called a "gilded cage" merely deteriorated to the "rusty prison" of the Bang Bus, representative of the anonymous male-centric sex and continued subjugation?

This, in my experience when I'm black out drunk at a bar trying to score with every 6 that I can see I always end up going home alone.

You're talking about a Frenchman who wrote a novel where Islam took over France.

kek I fucked up

>You will never represent, Raphael, a young girl's erotic dream

i want to like houellebecq for writing about people who can't get laid, but you can tell he doesn't authentically understand the forever alone experience because he bases it on the idea that it all comes down to looks which is not true at all since you see plenty of ugly people fucking and having kids, and plenty of pretty boys and girls too paralyzed by some mental lack to participate in erotic society. that paragraph mildly rustles me because i would be able to relate to it, except the first line fucks it all up, i know i've been the "erotic dreams" of young girls, but i just have mental issues that makes it rare that i seal the deal, occasionally a really pushy girl will claim me and fuck me, but i never ever hit on girls, and i dont have the patience or social skills or confidence or whatever to keep the relationship going. houellebecq's inability to understand the root of the issue makes me actually dislike him, i want to like him for trying to write about it, but he clearly doesn't get it and isn't writing from personal experience but from pity

>How do I live a life without romance?
>I was able to ride the absurdist wave for about 6
months
clearly you weren't, if you never pursues what you most desire. accepting life without inherent meaning is not cucking yourself and ignoring all forms of meaning

Im attractive, confident, and could easily get my own gf. I don't try. I'm not paralyzed, I'm just averse to a completely disingenuous experience in which I am completely aware of what kind of person my age demographic represents. I choose no, you dumb bitches.

> i know i've been the "erotic dreams" of young girls
>occasionally a really pushy girl will claim me and fuck me
Yeah, you really sound like the paragon of the "forever alone" clade.

You sound like a fag, what kind of person does your age demographic represent? That's such a vague thing to say. And I don't believe you can get girls as easily as you think you can gay boy.

Monogamous marriage is a machine wherein men are yoked to provide the energy needed to keep the machine of society running. You're utterly delusional if you think the subjugation of women is a primary or even secondary goal. There's a reason that Western society is collapsing and the elites are turning towards the mass importation of replacement males.

The human brain is incredible at learning. With practice I guarantee you can become good at picking up girls, especially since you're at least somewhat attractive.

The underlying issue here is that you let this so called mental lack hold you back.

18-24

On the contrary, most people in my age demo are fags, I'm not. Also I can. You gonna prove me wrong here? You want specifics? Sure. They care about money, cars, music, status. That's it. There can be odd ones out that actually attempt to be intellectuals but its so rare that I don't bother trying to find them. Those things are ok to enjoy, but they are ultimately worthless. I can't stand a person that attaches so much value to transient status/items.

This user is right, its easy as fuck. Just don the mask of falseness and be whoever you want to be in the meeting phase. Then take it from there. Just be fake is better advice than just be urself.

>Your life would actually be better if what you call sex would be what animals do
Pretty much.

I mean, just look at OP's pic. How is that girls flexibility in any way related to physical pleasure? Are her vagina muscles going to be more pleasurable or something? Maybe, but I doubt most guys would even think about that, let alone the subconscious part of them that makes them erect. Buttocks and breasts are the same, facial features and hair are the same, clothing is the same, but all those things are important to men, even though they don't really have anything to do with the act of sex--because what they want has nothing to do with it. Hell, it doesn't even have that much to do with raising healthy offspring. At least women have the intelligence to treat men as wealth providers, and only be seduced by looks out of pure self-indulgent pleasure, rather than go around saying they saw God when someone pretty comes their way.

Prostitutes > Priests

i just don't know how to escalate something to sex...all of my friends are single girls who were maybe hoping to get laid, but i'm not going for it, kinda getting sick of going out with girls and all the people around us at the restaurant or event are going to go home and fuck, but i'm here with my "friend", it's getting annoying, if i'm not fucking i'd rather be alone, net time a chick asks me out i'm just gong to be like "sorry i don't need any more friends"

>depression
>desperation
>desire for romance

falling for the woman meme this hard lol

Just tell them you wanna do it as bluntly as possible. It work for the PotUS.

Your generalization (which is inaccurate btw) of such a huge swath of people reveals how out of touch you are. You don't interact with others your age often. You're like a racist who thinks all nigs are lazy weed smoking rapists.

Your most foolish and immature assumption is that others don't have anything intellectual to say or learn from. I would say I pity someone like you who's become so disillusioned with society but there's a high chance you're still in high school and will grow out of it.

Your foot is in the door if you're already being invited to things. You need to be more aggressive and forward. Don't let fear or anxiety hold you back, if you fail so what. There's billions of girls out there brother.

yeah but liberals call him a rapist, and i don't want to be a rapist, bill clinton is however not a rapist and has never been rapist

You're a white male. You can't not be a rapist.

how can people on a board with a half dozen nietzsche threads at any given time have so many resentful little shits on it, do u even read

This. The older I get the less I care about the amount of women I sleep with, the more I feel bad about not being someone history will remember

White male here. All I want to do is raid the English and Neustrian coast and rape and pillage.

pasta

this is the problem with not having kids, the only way for someone to give a shit about your life and remember it even happened is to become napoleon...sad

Lol, alrighty. Looks like I've met the ultimate authority on my own personality and experience. Better just defer to your judgement, I'm sure I'll grow out of it.

Get a fucking grip on yourself my man.

>mfw people don't realize their experience after their last fuck is identical to their experience before their first one and the act has no significance past social theater

if only this kind of nonsense were true, but the feeling you get after fucking is not just not about getting a nut off, it's the bonding you get with the other person, even if they aren't a deep love, you still connected with in an intimate and personal way, and you also feel a sense of validation that you are a valuable member of society worth reproducing...sorry, but that day or two after you get laid is so pleasant, but bittersweet because one walks around thinking "this is how normies feel every day!" yes no matter how many books you read money you make journal articles you publish patents you receive, you won't have that simple feeling of warmth and satisfaction that the tattoo covered ex-con with a beer belly who lives on the end of the block feels every morning when he walks his ratchet wife and little shit kid to mcdonalds to get a breakfast sandwich, sad

Actually, sex is an incredibly potent tool for emotional bonding. It also weakens with successive partners, especially for women. Like everything else, giving love away for free lessens its value.

None of this will help you at death's doorstep.

Neither will anything else. Got any other utterly banal bullshit to pull out of your ass?

Adolescent love is grossly overrated

Adolescent sex on the other hand is the crown of life

actually, dying surrounded by my wife and children while i prepare to pass on will be a hell of a lot better than calling for some nurse to bring me an ipad so i can get one last shitpost off before i die alone and forgotten

How do you know this?

how do you know anything? sounds like you're grasping at straws buddy, maybe that's why you're so unlovable and destined to die a failure at love and life, have a nice day

I was asking a legitimate question. Have you peered into the mind of the dying and saw their social role operating in any substantial capacity, enough to even mitigate them being torn away from it? I have peered into mine whenever I was in danger and saw no such thing.

You are projecting pretty damn hard.

Project THIS *projectile vomits all over you*

the kind of denial you're on is a good defense mechanism when your aunt asks you why you don't have a gf during thanksgiving "sorry auntie but girls to are just too shallow" or why you never have a date when you go out to do shit "i'm just really focused on my self right now, too busy you know" etc. but when you're dying alone there's going to be no one there to lie to so you'll just have to final confront your problem, but by then it will be much too late, ouch!

A defense mechanism against what? Who is lying to me? What is my problem?

You'll be entirely forgotten in a generation or two regardless

did you have a point or did u just want to bump the thread?

You set up a false dichotomy in that post, that was the point

2D is the only salvation desu

i said nothing about memory or forgetting, you projected that from who knows where, more over it's not a "false dichotomy", you either die alone or you don't

yes, yes, waste your life consuming childish cartoons and avoiding life, that is true happiness

buddhism is learned helplessness: the religion.

>buaa buaa i am a spooked mundane

You didn't include "forgotten" in your post?

I have similar problems, but this isn't the "forever alone experience" pretty much by definition.
>using "life" like that

DEEP

forgotten by your peers, not by future generations, learn to read better

>misreader of stirner uses it to justify a pointless life of hedonism and masturbation

stay spooked

I agree with you but I'm interested in how you think The Magic Mountain will be helpful to that specific problem?

Houellebecq is a miserable grouch of course, but I can emotionally comprehend this anger and frustrated irrationality, so I still enjoy reading his books.

Let me pop this bubble real quick

There is no end to "what you could have done" in your youth. There will always be some guy with some story that trumps the last guy. This is what I love about Zizek Lacan Girard. Desire is always framed by others, what we desire is always being shaped by others, and even if you were to go to the end and base your own, the very mode of being makes it close to impossible to fulfill the longing for love that we seek to quench because that longing always takes the shape of an Object of desire and all the while the object Cause of desire is never addressed. On top of that, desire quenched in a blind striving way only digs you deeper into a hole of dissatisfaction.

Randy works at a thrift store. In his youth he had an 8 hour fuck-a-thon with his girl on meth. He never could reach that level again. And this peak became a tumor lodged in his gut. He needed to quench it. So he upped the stakes. What got him even close to that feeling was raping someone. After 7 years in jail for sexual assault on a minor, his thirst is still there, as his PO, support group, and therapist knows very well. He lives in a perpetual hell. The only relief he has is the knowledge that his drive for drugs was based on a childhood pain: he felt neglected by his parents. Drugs and girls is what he chased after to fill this longing. This understanding, though helps him make sense of his inter he'll, has come all but too late. He had been the dupe of the species. GOT IT?

Pussy feels great. Fuck it. But for the love of God, take care of your repressed love locks because if you don't they peek their head out in the strangest of places, like the end of a meth pipe or the inside of 14yo girls pussy

Sage.

Raphael obviously wasn't Veeky Forums

Well put but I'm not gonna let that trick me into thinking you're right,

well, he's right about the girard memetic desire stuff, but that doesn't change anything

Hey Girardfag. I was a KHV until I was 23, and then I bootstrapped myself and had weird fetish sex with 80-100 girls. I'm a depressed anhedonic mental patient, who only doesn't do meth because I know I'd never stop, so all that crazy sex is the only pure "lose yourself" experience I've ever had, and now I'm addicted to it. It's not nymphomania or irresponsible coke-fueled orgies: I just enjoy knowing I can have some pussy on my face and stop thinking about black holes of despair once in a while.

I was completely happy with this, had the vice reasonably under control, and had even set up a pretty good life plan for the next two or three decades of whoremongering, but then I fell in love with someone after thinking this was impossible. Now I have to choose between (a) a loving family life with her, finally giving me the love my parents never did, but at the cost of being anhedonic and craving exotic flavours of vagina forever and thinking of cheating on her every single day forever, or (b) giving up love but having enough hedonic stimpaks to get me through doing the good works I want to do with my life.

So I've gone from being happily unhappy, to being unhappily Buridan's ass'ed.

What would Lacan say?

Isha kriya

Shut up faggot

it's true though, you're mad about not getting laid because somebody else was. if you weren't thinking about that chad and all those hot college chicks he got to fuck for four years straight while you were shitposting and reading asspained philosophy books you wouldn't care. it's sexual jealousy.

Lacan would say

A.) ur a degenerate, kys
B.) ur girl is gonna find someone better and leave ur degenerate ass because you are essentially unlovable. If she doesn't leave you than she isn't worth loving, and you two will live a meager and ugly existence. God forbid you have any children. If you do, they will probably major in STEM before killing themselves.
C.) Your fucked. And I hope your post was a joke because if not, I don't think you understand how big a hole you are in. And even if, in some merciful God given miracle, you had some true insight and the spirit of history revealed itself to you in the light of an authentic being-in-the-world, your whole complex system of ignoring the obvious signs of your absolute worthlessness would start up again and you would continue your automatic zombie hood.
D.) I'm wrong, there is hope for you, but none that I can dish out.

Now get the fuck off my board.

Having a Hitlerposter denigrate you means, perversely, that you're doing something right.

Like I care what Jew think

what?

I wonder if entire ideologies have been created because of physical inferiority.

Like contemplative religious traditions always vouch for celibacy for example, and although their arguments are coherent, I can't help but feel that they are rationalizations sprung from lack of pussy. I've never seen a monk, or religious figure, that was a 6'2 big-dicked turbo chad. These are also not the people turning towards these kinds of traditions.
In the same way, the people these days that go around around yelling 'degeneracy!' are always autistic, ugly, beta, small dicked, etc. Again, I've never seen a male model looking ass motherfucker campaigning for celibacy, because of course, why would they? It's not a problematic area of life for them.

I find that in general strong ideologies always attract meek people. Like the Nazi high command was filled with a bunch of manlet, weak jawlined, turbo beta's. Or for example, I like to read up on the occult, and most prominent occult figures have also been fat, ugly, bald, etc.

I reckon it's to do with the fact that when people can't full fill their primary biological function - simply put; they can't get laid- because of physical ineptitude e.g. lack of attractive physical attributes, they turn towards an ideological output to justify their lack of 'base fulfilment'.

Sounds like some projection on your part

>6'2 big-dicked turbo chad
>autistic, ugly, beta, small dicked
>male model

de·gen·er·ate
adjective
dəˈjen(ə)rət/
1.
having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable; showing evidence of decline.
"a degenerate form of a higher civilization"
synonyms: debased, degraded, corrupt, impure; formalvitiated
"a degenerate form of classicism"
2.
technical
lacking some property, order, or distinctness of structure previously or usually present, in particular.
synonyms: corrupt, decadent, dissolute, dissipated, debauched, reprobate, profligate; More
noun

She makes me horny
Is there any info on this bitch

>your whole complex system of ignoring the obvious signs of your absolute worthlessness would start up again and you would continue your automatic zombie hood.

It definitely is, that's how I noticed the phenomena in the first place.
But the thing is, it's almost empirically true. The Nazi high command WAS filled with a bunch of cucks, occult authors ARE a bunch of ugly fat dudes (and chicks; see the whole phenomena of Wicca) playing special snowflake. People crying on the internet about degeneracy ARE more often than not a bunch of neckbeards, and so on.

People who are satiated in their (primarily) physical needs are rarely the ones pursuing extreme ideologies. People often times come to particular ideologies because of duress endured in their life. Major, or minor.

This is probably getting into /r9k/-tier territory, but I think this is why women are generally speaking quite 'average'. 'There are no female geniuses', as they say. I think that's because for women the 'safety-net of physicality' is much, much wider. A woman can always get laid, a woman always gets attention, a woman can always mooch of a man, and so forth.
Her social and emotional needs are much less likely to be put under stress, and because of that complacency is far more common under women. Women are far less likely to be extremists or absolutists, or excel at any particular thing, in that regard.
I'm not a fedora tipper, either. I don't think this is an inherent property exclusive to women. You see the same phenomena with really attractive men too.

You could attend a yoga class or meditation retreat in a major city and have your theory dismantled, unless I'm misunderstanding it. Good looking people get into ideology as well, pic related. The Nazis being "ugly" has more to do with the expectations of men at that time than anything else. There's not an inverse correlation between being a ghoul and getting laid either, Kissinger comes to mind.

>This is probably getting into /r9k/-tier territory
So? it's not like everything that r9k says is false, most of their stuffs makes sense even though they are good at exaggerating and cherry picking.

Disgusting