What the fuck was this guys problem?

It was a false promise. The French Revolution was a disaster then ruined Europe. FUCK Bastille Day. Long live the House of Bourbon.

DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING

He's a historical curiosity, like Lamarck or whoever the fuck it was who invented Esperanto. I'm not sure why you spend a lot of time reading his theories when there is so much more current scholarship available.

remember me

The first filter for caring about Marx is reading him.
>You see, because of this definition of value I made up that cannot be tested empirically being paid for your work is actually the same as being robbed, so you sh-

This is around the point everyone who wasn't either profoundly stupid or possessed of an ulterior motive stopped listening to Marx.

The second filter is Bakunin, who blew Marx out so utterly that in a universe governed by reason that disgusting cunt would be a footnote in Bakunin's biography as someone he totally rekt once who later died gasping for breath on the dirt floor of the house Engals bought for him.

Explain how companies make a profit if they aren't stealing surplus value from the workers

There is no such thing as "surplus value." The only empirical definition of "value" is what you can sell a good or service for.

Therefore, whatever can sell your labor for is the value of your labor. If you sell me your dumb ass swinging a hammer at some rocks I own for an hour for ten dollars and I then sell the gravel for twelve dollars, I have not stolen anything from you. You sold me your labor, I sold some people some smashed up rocks. If I had found pebbles on a beach and sold those instead they would be worth exactly the same amount to me--whatever I could sell them for.

Marx made up a nonsense definition of value after the fact as a great emotional appeal to workers. You are being robbed, so you need to kill the people who pay you for your goods and services! What, prove it? No no no, it's all very complicated, empiricism is overrated anyway, just trust me, start a revolution, starve to death, it's worth it, also Engals pls buy me more beer

SINGING THE SONG OF FOOLISH MEN,
AND NOW THOSE MEN LAY SILENT ACROSS RUSSIA'S SILVERY FENS,
AND THE BEATING OF THEIR HEARTS ECHOES THE STILLNESS OF THEIR DRUMS,
AND FROM THE STEPPE THE HOWLING OF COSSACKS COMES

No workers no gravel. You would want more for the gravel if you had to collect it on the beach yourself.

Pretty funny joke that got coopted by retards who weren't in on it and then taken way too far.

Not the poster, but the case is that there are people that are interested in selling you their service for an amount that a patron decides on. Stop this silliness, please.

Wolff is not a fucking Marxist, he's a social democrat that wants heavily regulated capitalism.

Capitalism.

Trying to make Hegel's theistic system of idealism and transform it into a system of atheistic historical materialism.

>The only empirical definition of "value" is what you can sell a good or service for.
Isn't that what "price" means?

He didn't.
marxists.org/reference/archive/smith-cyril/works/millenni/smith4.htm