Book/movie/show has government system that is different from ours

Why was IngSoc evil? According to us, but it has it's own internal logic.

>look at this nazi inspired world where the nazis won and it's evil and we try to overthrow it

MITHT? A Nazi dominated world would be terrible for many people.

Yeah but it's boring. People have been hearing about how nazis are evil since WW2. Why not make a new ideological threat? Why not some extreme libertarian anarchy, some hardcore progressive place that is too scared to criticize anyone or random other society that isn't Nazi's Commies?

>Why not some extreme libertarian anarchy, some hardcore progressive place that is too scared to criticize anyone or random other society that isn't Nazi's Commies?

These already exists.

Its actually usually a communist system, which would fall left.

but how would you write a dystopian system of government without showing any kind of political disposition within the government?

Everyone has a political opinion, and everyone has an idea of what the worst type of government would be. i think its generally less about influencing peoples political leanings and more about either providing catharsis for people of similar disposition, or evoking the negative emotions the author intends to via a means he understands.

not to mention i dont think anyone believes that any political disposition is immune to exploitation. besides communism is inherently susceptible to totalitarianism in a way capitalism is not, so it makes sense that its often used as an archetype because its happened before, it will happen again, and its happening right now.

Yeah, in real life and it's shit. Why not use that as something to write about.

>but how would you write a dystopian system of government without showing any kind of political disposition within the government?
Left doesn't equal communism and right doesn't equel nazi. You can have a church based authoritarian government or one based on not offending anyone or one similar to the Roman empire. There like a million different ways you can do an authoritarian government and it doesn't even have to be authoritarian government to be dystopian.

They exist in fiction as well. You can find a ton of books like that with a cursory google search.

actually fallout has one based on the roman empire

and theres a hundred godzillian religious government.

Yeah but they are always taken to a retarded extreme. Of course those retarded extremes exist and it's called the middle east.

how are you going to write a dystopian government that is mild and has no overt political ideolofy behind it?

You can be bad but not extremist right or left.
Look at the French government right before and after the french revolution or most governments before America was founded.

>tfw your upcoming drama won't break the cycle because nobody publishes a white guy in Canada
Head-nodding novels are a demon in the system.
Mildness is a political ideology.

but not an overt one

But it is.

It generally is. Watch The Handmaids tale or any of the other new stuff coming out.

fair enough

I'm writing a book about how the world turns into a hellhole. There's Neo-Bonapartists, British supremacists who want to fulfill Cecil Rhodes' last will and testament, and a slew of wannabe monarchs across a post-apocalyptic America.

Oh, and there's also a guy with a messiah complex who gears up for a "titanic world conflict" that will lead to a "golden age of human culture" against the National Bolsheviks who took over the Soviet Union, overthrowing/killing Gorby.

The Shah of Iran's also around too. POD is that Reagan died of AIDS after getting tainted blood in a transfusion following the attempt on his life. The POV is of an intergalactic historian who's writing many millenia into the future where the French Revolutionary Calendar is used universe-wide. He writes the book for the Emperor's heir. The protag is the daughter of a family man trying to keep his family together through the end times.

I'd go on, but it'd be a very long comment. If anyone wants to know more, just ask a question. I'd love to explain further!

Does Nick Land's emerging viral necro-tech army play any role in this story, user?

Me thinks you should read something by nicolas sparks

You can't write a book about a fictional left-wing dystopia because we're living in one, in America, the colonies, and especially Europe.

>tfw people still don't realize that 1984 is a love story

>Love story
More like a cautionary tale. Everything was going fine until that whore tempted Winston.

Are you going to try and get it published or self publish? I unironically want to read this because it seems equal parts ridiculous and rad.

Women ruin everything. Never fall for their charms user.

>America
We still have the freedom to say what we want, try Canada where it is literally illegal to misgender someone.

That depends, user. I've been working on it for years now - the characters themselves were made even earlier - and it's undergone many changes since it initially started as a short story that I wrote out of boredom. I'm leaning towards self-publishing, but I'll have to override my perfectionism.

What I have so far is the first book (ideally it'd be a series - the first dealing with the POD to the end of the world (called the "Hemoclysm" - in which the world's entire collective arsenal of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons were used). The next would be the story of the wars, etc that came after. After that would be books set in between the first two) as well as a laundry list of quotes, timelines, notes, etc. I have literally thousands of pages across numerous drafts. The timeline spans from 1902 to 49,170 AD and contains a myriad of minor and major changes ranging from trivial stuff like Wayne Gretzky playing in San Francisco instead of Edmonton to the tearing down of the US Capitol so the world's largest shopping mall can be built over it.

There are many characters throughout the story including a vigilante called the Portrait Killer (he leaves the portraits of his victims' victims behind), a misanthropic consultant whose daughter is brutally murdered, causing him to flee a la Lord Lucan (one of the subplots is everyone trying to find him), a young woman who goes on a shooting spree in her school after her dorm is ransacked, and a non denominational Christian who walks on foot around the US, Canada and beyond to preach peace and goodwill to all people.

Not particularly, but there is a lot of tech used. For example, after the NatBols overthrow the Soviet government in 1991, the Soviet Union breaks apart into the Eurasian Union (Russia, Belarus, Central Asia, Mongolia) while the Ukraine and the Baltics go to NATO. The Caucasus becomes Somalia on steroids, with the Armenians/Azeris/Georgians all at each other's throats. The Shah of Iran/Eurasian Union feud over Afghanistan too, especially after they both invaded the country to exterminate the Taliban - the two basically take potshots at each other across an unofficial DMZ.

A family of Soviet emigres flees to the US where their daughter falls in love with a local nerd who turns out to be a pioneer in robotics. The two create a company that mass produces androids for a variety of uses. Whatever you can think of, there's a 'droid for it. Automation becomes so prevalent with the rise of the company's fortunes that even prostitutes and porn stars are out of work. Cryonics also becomes fashionable among the elite....

I'm trying to go for a technoir setting with the first book. The second one would be more traditional cyberpunk, and the rest would be whatever I feel fit best.

The title of the book is called: "The Last of the Progenitors: Politics, People and the Shape of Things to Come."

The intergalactic historian/narrator is a member of the Order of Geo-Paleontologists. Much like the friars in "A Canticle for Liebowitz," they preserve human history throughout the ages. They have their own planet on which they keep the Declaration of Independence, the Mona Lisa, and other timeless treasures. The one who narrates the book is the foremost authority on Progenitor Studies. He's tasked with writing the book to educate the Emperor's heir, but rather than write one sided propaganda, the narrator writes about the common people.

>"The present world of readers is being satiated with holobooks and holonovels of all varieties, so much that the new publication of either may remain unnoticed if not preceded or followed by any adequate publicity. All the publicity this holobook needs is that it covers the lives and times of the Progenitors whose collective hubris nearly condemned our species to total extinction. Yet we learned nothing, as the countless conflicts since then indicate. A wise man among the Progenitors (an oxymoron I thought at first) once wrote that a generation that ignores history has neither past nor future. So it is that, on the latest anniversary of the Hemoclysm, I publish this holobook that chronicles “the vicissitudes of fortune, which spares neither man nor the proudest of his works, which buries empires and cities in a common grave."

I, in the real world, merely function as the "editor" of "his" book.

There's no agenda or ideology this book pushes either. All that ought to come to mind is here:

>The reader is encouraged to reflect on the enormity of certain risks inherent in today’s foreign policies, the fragility of our present society and the power that our officials hold over the lives of hundreds of millions of people globally.

My overall goal is to simply write interesting stories for people to read. How they judge and deem the plot, characters, etc is up to them. If they like it, cool. If not, hopefully they will the next one.

I'd read that. Good luck.

Thanks, user. I appreciate the support. Would you happen to know if there is a thread for posting parts from one's manuscript? I'd hate to clutter a non related thread.

>Why can't more stories show a different world that is happy?
Because its usually some hippy utopia run on farts and rainbows and the it spends time shitting on you for not having converted to the authors philosophy

Literally me