/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Thread

never read it but everyone now and then I encounter stuff like this from the author and I become even more convinced that never reading his shit is the right decision

Go in the archives. Don't feel like reposting the same shit countless times. In depth responses were written already. If YOU want it so bad, go look for it.

But does Horror count as fantasy?

Is it bad that I found the entire Crimson Worlds series enjoyable?

I mean, Frontlines is of course better, but I just enjoyed the carnage and extreme lengths that Jay Allan provided.

>it's akka gets cucked again episode

I think Rothuffs failed to emulate the Tolkien and JK Rowling vibes he was going for, it doesn't help that anything to do with the university was incredibly boring but Kvothe's love interest didn't even have a personality of her own.

It belongs in this general at least. I wish it was talked about more here.

Any decent horror you would recommend?

The more fantastical the better.

>mfw I lent a grill a bunch of my favorite SF, including VALIS and Ring by Stephen Baxter, a few years back and I've only seen her a couple times since then and she's made no signal to me that she wants to return her books
>mfw all I got in exchange was a tie-in book 'written by' 'Sterling Archer' about being the world's greatest secret agent
Jill, if you're reading this, your refusal to contact me about returning my sentimentally valuable property is one of the main reasons I resent you, alongside your inability to discuss anything other than food and television.

What Egan books are decent?

SKILLED LOVER OF WOMEN

Pretty standard time travel mess. Assassinate Karl Marx, twice. Accidentally become your own wife. Birth your own arch nemesis. I enjoyed the time travel mechanic where you inhabited the body of and shared a mind with a period correct person generated in the time stream by the laws of time itself. That is until the laws of time dictated the MC inhabit a prostitute for every time jump after the first few. Anons with the bimboization fetish might enjoy that I guess (the MC's original personality/mind gets entirely subsumed after a while). I will award it 2/5 time jump faux pas.

Now that's some tasty sci-fi covers.

If whoever makes these just made one called /sffhg/, it would catch on. It already gets discussed here anyway.

Could someone help me with naming two factions in a fantasy setting?

They live within the same city and are cursed with magic to live together for as long as they exist. But they mostly hate eachother, and are culturally different.

One of them has a dark / black aesthetic and the other has a light / white aesthetic.

Could use help with the naming of the city too.

It's not as catchy.

Shades and the Lumos?

City called Spectra?

Ashtereth
Lumogath
living in Derreta

To be specific, I'm more interested in a name for the factions themselves. As though they were cities of their own.

Like, for example, the main city would be named Spectra and the factions would be named Spectra-Shade and Spectra-Lumos.

I bet being a stupid, hot female is really terrible, but I still find the idea of becoming one arousing. This is how I know I'm not trans, I don't want to be a girl, I just think it would be hot to become one and experience a G-spot orgasm while playing with my own massive tits.

I guess. Either way, I'd be interested to see some horror discussion here. I started out reading mostly horror, and I wonder what is considered the best material the genre has to offer. I get bored of cosmic horror. Surely there is more than just that out there of literary significance.

Spectra-Lumos has a ring to it somehow.

All good names are meaningless. Take an abstract sound/word and jazz it up
Sindhu (Sanskrit) -> Hindu (Persian) -> India (English) -> East India Trading Company (Faction)

Here we have an example of the reluctant lawman plot. Mars is utterly corrupt, graft being essential. Lot's of pulp action. MC involved in two near simultaneous insurrections. A waifu for you tsundere fans (heavily frontloaded on the tsun). I enjoyed it. 4/5 1000 credit mandatory donations to the Widows and Orphans fund.

Horror is a subset of fantasy. It belongs in the general. Sffg is a blanket cover for everything that isn't biographies (unless it's about the Life of Jesus in his second coming).
Horror is sff
Alt-his is sff
Realism is sff
Once it has some element of the fantastic it's sffg related.

This is why people hate you reddite/tumbshit real life faggots. The general already allows something, but you want it to specifically state it "they should add a h". You faggots always come, meet something, and want it to change to suit YOU.

If you don't like it make your own... oh that's right, when you specifically wanted it to state horror your thread 404'd on it's own. So now you want us to bend over backwards so you can feel good.

Either discuss your shit here, or make a thread and watch it die. Why should we cater to the whims of less than 10 people out of a regular 100? I never cared for the whole sjw "include me" shit before, but you fucks just showed me what everyone was talking about.

Ask the fag who made the horror general to post his charts. People don't discuss horror much because we have been desensitized to a lot of shit. Things that scared people in the 80's/90's don't do shit to someone who was on Veeky Forums for a number of years. Normal fags from redupvote and failbook might get jittery, but horror has fallen to jump scares because exposing some horror fro the depths means shit when you have animes turning horrible things into kawaii misunderstood creatures who just have a bad skin condition, or is suffering from tumours.

John Varney, Gor (science fantasy)

indepth my ass.

Also no one has given a good answer except for, "the university was boring" which I disagree with.

also "the prose sucked" isn't an arguement.

If its a serial killer, no, if its a undead invincible serial killer back from the dead, then yes

If its just a monstrous person behind the horror then id think no but vampire, mutants, robots, werewolves, zombies, etc, then yeah I think it counts

Newfag aren't you? Check 2015. Book is discussed to death.
If you want to read it, read it, if you don't, don't.
If you like it, like it. I kinda liked it but if was too disjointed how it picked up interesting things only to never mention it again. The first book had it's faults but I reasoned it would be made clear in the second.. I was wrong. Disjointed became more so. I could have bared all that, but him becoming a mat, for Deanna to wipe her cunny & sperm soaked shoes from the latest coitus on, pissed me the fuck off.

Sir, there's only one person clamoring for the general to explicitly state it allows horror. Don't get my hopes up for a (You) again.

Is Robert Sheckley good?

...

Holy fuck dude, you have some issues to sort out. I said it has already been talked about here and that it would be nice to talk about more. Seek help before you become a danger to yourself.

I haven't read too much horror. It's something I'm currently getting more into, but I read Summer of Night recently and it was extremely good.

Is there anything more cringe than song lyrics being written down in a book? Yes there is, characters being so overcome with emotion from a song they start crying.

Lovecraft but don't go in with high expectations, he is a great recycler

pic related is 100% true.

If I had to pick one from the selected science fiction image, what should it be?

Not really "fantastical" but Laird Barron's stuff is GOAT IMO.

I've barely read any of those.

probably gene wolfe.
I'd say forever war ever though it's not on the list.

Roadside Picnic if you haven't already read it.

Snowcrash has a guy fucking a girl until she makes him pass out...from the paralytic needle in her pussy.[.spoiler]

Just finished Cornwell's Warlord Trilogy. Truly the best version of the Arthur tale ever made. I fucking loved it.

Actual sheet music being included in the appendix

>A song has never made me cry

Liar.

>ying and yangs
>aryans and niggers
>pure blood and mud bloods

Why were they cursed though?

>the selected science fiction image
>tfw there's two of them
The first one is "pretentious" and while there's several amazing books I would not recommend any of them to someone that want to read a single sci-fi book.

In the second image there's better choices. Dune, Foundation, Starship Troopers and Lord of Light for example.

Please, at that point the amount of autism starts to loop back around and just becomes impressive.

How do I become the next Rowling?

Please don't.

Rowling is shit.

Write the next Harry Potter.

Have you tried being a single mother?

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Can we talk about The Unholy Consult?

>Thoughts
1. Did not expect Kellhus to get BTFO like that, but it was a nice twist.
2. The whole Kelmomas = No God thing caught me by surprise, even though it was foreshadowed.
3. Disappointed that Cnaiur got disintegrated. It was a manly as fuck death, but I still want him to come back.
4. The whole demonic pact with Ajokli needed to be foreshadowed more in the books (outside of the appendix).
5. Felt really, really bad for Aurax.

>Questions
1. Is Kellhus gone for good? A soul's power in the Outside specifically functions on Will to Power, so that could very well mean he becomes a lesser deity or ciphrang or whatever. We already know from previous books that he had been talking to his soul when he visited the Outside. It's even possible that he's one of the gods.
2. Who were the precursors of the Inchoroi? Was it future dunyain? Was the Ark a time machine, or were they literally just aliens from another world?
3. Will Dunyain fucking shits ever be removed?

Overall rating: 7/10, would have been a 9.5/10 had it been left intact with The Great Ordeal instead of being split into two books. The first eight or so chapters of the book sort of drag, but the ending more than made up for all that with the utterly insane shit going on.

Kellhus is supposedly the anti-Frodo so if everything goes along those lines he should be dead for reals and not hiding in the decapitants

I predict Malowebi gets picked up by a Consult dunyain and carried to Zeum where he finds out his body was BTFO by Likaro

Just finished this today, probably the last Dune book I'm going to read, at least for a while anyway.

I was hoping that this would be the best book in the series, lots have people have said it was their favorite. I may come to change my mind later, but as it stands i think it's definitely not the best book in the series but it could have been, which makes it frustrating.

Thematically, it was awesome and it gave me a lot to think about. There were a lot of really interesting characters and ideas presented, and certain scenes were completely brilliant. But the problem is the execution. Endless conversations with Leto got to be very repetitive around halfway through the book. These conversations wouldn't have felt so repetitive if it felt like there was a point to them. Most characters he talks to never end up learning anything because Leto refuses to make sense in his arguments. He uses the most backwards logic I have ever seen, a thesaurus-tier vocabulary, and to top it off he constantly references thousand year old history and poems that the people he's talking to have no idea what to make of.

Also he never shuts the fuck up about his ancestral memories. Like I get it, I don't need to be reminded you know all of human history every chapter. It's interesting but we've already covered this in Children of Dune, and the concept of ancestral memories hasn't been original since it first happened to Alia. It doesn't help Leto's case that he can be extremely grating at times. Like, stop yelling at Moneo dude, he's by far the most loyal and trustworthy person around you.

I have a million other small complaints but this is already turning into a blog, and even though this looks very critical, i enjoyed the book overall. Anyone else feel disappointed by this book?

>But the problem is the execution

That's my problem with the whole dune series. Very brilliant ideas, mind blowing plot really, but...it's just so awkward and fumbling with how everything is actually laid out.

I hope Malowebi sticks around. He's great comedic relief.

Yeah and it only gets more awkward after the first book. The original Dune takes a little getting used to, but it's paced in such a way that it feels like a comprehensive story that all comes together in a satisfying way.

It first became a problem with Children of Dune when all the characters were in different areas, everyone's motivations were mysterious (even point of view characters hide their motives from the reader) and I realized that I had no idea what the fuck the overall plot was.

because a lot of people around here don't wanna fucking read about how badass this kid was in university. the story is absolutely retarded if you don't like coming of age/uni self-insert crap. And the writing reads like college level bullshit. Lots of unrelated similes and metaphors just for the sake of descriptiveness. There's no thematic purpose to the prose other than for the sake of it. It would be interesting if there was a consistent poetic style like writing in verse, to keep up with the bardic themes. Either that, or have a terse workman-like style like tolkien, maintaining a "as a matter of fact" style similar to ancient/medieval folklores.

H G Wells, who is also a god tier writer

I love coming of age/training school novels and I still don't like Kingkiller

When you can't write well, pace well or plot well what's actually left?

Valis is not science fiction

Can you autists rec me some novels with older women being serviced by younger guys?
I didn't know I had this fetish until I read Bakker's white luck warrior and Stephen King's "the stand".

>tfw no puma gf

Shut the fuck up, unless you want to claim every scifi book I see just "the protagonist hallucinating" it's scifi

Unfunny try harder 2/10

She's the kind of older woman I find more attractive than just about any 20-year-old.

Added to my wishlist, thanks.

Predatory female authority figure. Becomes sexually precocious loli.

I don't think Ark is a time loop or Dunyain the Inchoroi progenitors, they could barely fix one nuke and if they can set up the No-God they don't need to make the much more complicated step of rebuilding the Ark and creating more souls, much easier to remove them. There's nothing in the plot that requires a time loop here.

A more pressing question:
>I fear Dragons are the stuff of little girls now

What did she mean by this?

>catamite

I JUST FINISHED TUC
MY SWEET LOVE
WHYYY

Not the loli user. I already have sadpanda for that. I want supple milfs /gilfs that get breed by young studs.

>tfw no supple milf gf

>unfunny
I'm not joking. My dick was hard when Larry nearly killed the granny. I had daydreams about traveling around in a post apocalyptic world, breeding a granny multiple times a day. I'm rock hard just typing this .

>Can't find it anywhere

Whats it 'bout mah nigguh?

Planet Of The Apes but with cat people with firm tits and ass?

>5. Felt really, really bad for Aurax.
Same. I had envisioned him as some kind of Tekne scientist, grotesque and proud, not the whimpering broken thing grovelling at the feet of inhuman humans.

I think Kellhus has become a Ciphrang, as the Inverse Fire did not show him burning.

I'm pretty sure the Inchoroi were aliens.

3. Will Dunyain fucking shits ever be removed?
Probably not.

PLEASE tell me this chick does porn.

>did everything wrong
>TUC proved that
>all your claims are nought

He's okay. Most of his stories are mediocre, a couple are pretty good.

She's also like 15

>Aurax freaks out and goes catatonic when he finds out Aurang is dead

in the end, humans were the real monsters

But it wasn't a human who killed Mu'miorn

"Unable to think, Malowebi witnessed, watched it all in golden reflection, how the Mutilated seized a begging Kelmomas, first with sorcery, then with hands lacking five fingers, how the child had wailed and kicked and shrieked, realizing he had traded one tyrant for four. Malowebi glimpsed the flutter of small limbs as the Dûnyain thrust him into the great black sarcophagus, heard the porcine shrieks of bodily violations, the heartbreak of his blubbering, his whimpering cries, as the great face of the Carapace closed upon its ancient seal ..."

“Mu-mu-mum-meee ...”

That was pretty fucked up tbqh.

Plus, it was pretty interesting since repeated mention is made of how both Narindar couldn't see Kelmomas. Combined with the fact that we're also told on several occasions that the No God can't be seen by the gods, it makes perfect sense in retrospect.

I really thought that Kellhus was going to willingly climb in the coffin.

In any case, Earwa was completely fucked regardless of the outcome. I see no possibility of a happy ending unless anyone has some ideas.

>mfw Bakker is a leaf

Take your freedums elsewhere

Well, you could argue that the Consult winning is the lesser evil since you're not guaranteed ages upon ages of mortal suffering. Once the Outside is closed off.
there's no inherent incentive for atrocity.

Overusing spoilers should be a bannable offense.

Cut this shit out you fucking autists.

>hiding events of a recently released book is misusing them
What the fuck are they there for, then?

It's probably some guy with severe OCD who's mad because he has to hover his mouse over each spoiler to read it.

>using spoilers for their intended purpose should be bannable

sasuga, anonymous kun

Got this as a birthday gift. Has anybody read his exegesis?

I was told to read 3 books of his before starting, specifically Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said A Scanner Darkly, and Valis. I've finished Valis and am now onto A Scanner Darkly. I'm sure I'm chatting with the same PKD fans each thread, but I'll open the discussion anyway.

Are you retarded? They're using spoilers for their intended purpose. If you hate looking at them you can set spoilers to be revealed by default.