Pynchon is grossly overrated

Not an argument. Back up your point with at least 5 citations and no less than seven paragraphs of well written analysis.

deal with it, faggot

Well you know, the division you don't see between science and philosophy, i don't really see between continentals and analytics, at least to some extent. I'm quite sure the main difference between the two current of thoughts is in the method rather than the contents itself, at least to some extent since the themes treated vary from philosopher to philosopher. But hey, Wittgenstein often said that the philosopher which had the most affinity with his ideas was Martin Heidegger, and they're considered respectively the main exponents of the two parties.

The chasm between continentals and analytics is much greater than the divide between science and philosophy. Continentals have a victim complex and think they are constantly under attack by analytics, even though they quite literally control the public perception of philosophy. Everyone has heard of Nietzsche and Camus and Sartre. Who's heard of Quine and Kripke? Continentals constantly level flat out wrongheaded charges against analytics and there is a widespread perception that they're all soulless positivists. You know how incensed people here get when someone calls Nietzsche a nihilist? That's how it feels for analytics when they're called positivists. Analytics have made a thousand times more progress in bridging the gap between philosophy and science while maintaining their respective boundaries and Continentals sit in their circle jerk and abuse both of them

The christposters are here often just contain themselves to threads involving religion and don't even respond to threads in which degeneracy goes unchecked. Just noticed this when observing the thread on trans characters. Christposters come out of the woodwork and do your fucking job better if anything.

Go to bed Stephen Molyneux.

Fucking Aristotleplebs at it again. If your only argument against Plato is either a:
>forms are weird/naive lmao
or b:
>he was a proto-totalitarian lmao
you have no right to talk about serious discussions of philosophy. Come on. Just try to make a case for yourself without making some shitty reference to Popper or something.

Oh sorry i didn't get your point. I was talking about the division in content. I sympathize with you though, despite being a continental. One should study carefully the currents of thought he isn't really fond of as well if he wants to have a more complete viewpoint and achieve useful considerations. And surprisingly, one can get inspired by what seems "boring" as well. One of my main influences is Wittgenstein. And that's something most continentals don't get, i have to admit it, they pretty much label analytics as "maths" and disregard it completely either because they don't fancy it or don't get it. Philosophy should be about searching for the truth whatever that is, not just sticking to your idea of what the truth should be like.

Analytics are less well known because the general public is more interested in practical reflection on life than autistic metaphysics

Are you jewish?

Europoor

Wrong, it's obvious who's shitting things up all the time (you)

Then why would they pick continentals? That's contraddictory

Both of them are essentialists. But Forms cannot account for priority and posteriority in a single subject, so there cannot possibly be an Idea for the set of all goods, some of which supervene on the others. They dont account for composites and incomposites, which is why you have to split up the "number" with a collection of things that make up number. Also a genus admits of the account of its species, which includes differential, and so can't be a Form. You can still believe in spooky essences, but they exist within the subject, not outside. Otherwise in what sense is it an essence? Aristotle's system is just better equipped to deal with these problems

Film is a far superior medium, not just narratively but artistically.

>"continental"
>lumping European philosophy in with jewish marxism

You're either trolling or legitimately retarded

>practical reflexion on life
>continental philosophy
pick one

also
>autistic metaphysics
>not literally Heidegger

Althusser did nothing wrong

>believes in the science/philosophy divide
r u sure ur not thinking of analytic 'philosophers' here?

Poetry is a reactionary pseudoscience

Morality is objective, and can be derived rationally.

Confirmed for dumb continental who hasn't read any philosophy of science or even just basic Quine. Just stop posting

The bible is really not that interesting if you aren't religious daysoo

Confirmed for dumb continental who hasn't even read enough Heidegger to know how he defended the divide

Hate speech laws, vigorously and publicly enforced, are probably the best non-violent tool for stabilizing society in the social media age and reorienting debate back to important issues

Mass surveillance is not only inevitable but, in the case of law enforcement, morally preferable to a thuggish police force and an ineffectual tax collection system. Children should be raised knowing that omnipresent algorithms will catch them committing crimes within seconds

I believe both of these things will occur and benefit my country within my lifetime

Shit I forgot:

Singapore is a model society where a prosperous, orderly nation thrives within the managed freedom guarded by a technocratic elite and should be emulated

How so? Speaking as an atheist, I really believe the only way morality can be objective is by assuming the existence of a god

The existence of abstract objects is not contingent upon the existence of a God. All it takes for physicalism to fail is to have moral statements take on truth values. Don't need a deity for that

Hahahahahahahahahaha

Be the change you want to see etc.

Why do you want to bridge the gap between science and philosophy so bad? Heidegger and Witty already did it anyways.

God doesn't want you to swear!

But what if I don't care, I know it sounds stupid but you know what I mean.

It's orderly but sterile. If you have the most well-oiled shopping mall in the world it won't matter if your citizens seek to end their lives due to boredom and lack of meaning.

If you speak of objectivity and subjectivity with regards to morality you are already making a subjective moral judgment

Literature is trash, anime is better.
There is no such thing as 'good' secular art.
Philosophy is garbage.
Science is garbage.

Science is garbage, philosophy is garbage. However, there needs to be a gap between them to prevent science from making philosophy unredeemable garbage.
Truth doesn't exist. Philosophy that searches for truth is absolute garbage.

Ontology isn't metaphysics.

That's only because you're a heretic that cannot comprehend it, dechu~

Veeky Forums is simultaneously the smartest board and the most pretentious one.

>he types comments on a computer but thinks science is garbage

well played friendo

John Green weaves the most complex narratives in modern fiction available today

How is that relevant?
Computers don't exist, science is wrong, and so on. Also, do you actually believe nonobjects are somehow contingent on 'it just werks dont worry about the axioms' nonsense?
Computers would exist with or without that nonsense.

Damn, you really need to go back to /r/eddit

>Computers don't exist, science is wrong,

this ARMS the redditor

They could go back to /pol/ and let us discuss literature

This is your fucking brain on subjectivism.

>Veeky Forums
>smartest board

That would be Veeky Forums

You read too many books my friend, it is time to stop. It won't do you any good.

I'm not a subjectivist, moron
>idolaters
>intelligent
I don't read much at all. Most reading is done by people essentially stroking their braincocks. Intellectualism is a disease.

There's nothing wrong with giving up on books.

Enjoyment / fun is more important than pseudo intellectual allusions or half assed inserted philosophical "insights"

>I don't read much at all.
That explains a lot.

>Truth does not exist
You literally cannot get more epistemologically subjectivist than this.

I don't think this has aged very well.
The interesting moral conflict and subsequent character development is undermined by the ending; and I found the informal prose and phonetic spelling (apparently revolutionary at its time) difficult to read.

The Invention of Morel has a somewhat interesting concept but a horrible execution. Seriously overhyped by Bioy Casares' attachment to Borges. Borges also has equal parts shit in his oeuvre as he does genuinely good stories.

I don't particularly enjoy him, but saying he's overrated is a bit of a stretch. He might be overrated on this board, at least, or by Bloom, but not in the general sphere of things.

This is not an unpopular opinion at all. Your first point is legitimate and examined in a number of critical essays, the second is more a personal nitpick.

>he likes throwing big words around without knowing what they mean
Ontology is literally a branch of metaphysics

Reading fiction is a giant waste of time. You won't develop any skills worth having by reading through the history of white men who masturbated onto paper while wishing they were as good at masturbating onto paper as all the other white men who masturbated onto paper.

Reading is for pseuds, revelation is far better.
Veeky Forums brainletlets actually believe this
I'm doing no such thing, you're the one with no understanding.

There's a difference between bridging a perceived divide and subordinating one field to another , hence "maintaining respective boundaries". The thing I find cool about Quine is that he showed that there is always an element of aesthetic judgement in our scientific theories. Parsing questions regarding "what there is" in the world remains a question of ontology and not physics, even if we get our ontological commitments from our best physical theories. This may, in any event, necessitate the existence of metaphysical entities like abstract objects. Metaphysics and science are inseparable, but one does not consume the other and they are free to pursue their respective inquiries

Are you pulling some kind of Parmenidean "becoming does not exist" or some kind of Gorgian "being does not exist" shit?

Might want to read this book, friendo :~)

I found gravity's rainbow extremely hard to follow and overall not very enjoyable.

The majority of these post-modern titty twisters are worthless pieces of literature that will only be read in the future purely as novelty.

Henry Miller is the greatest american author.

You know this says more about you than it does about the book, right?

Science is irrelevant, it has no role in anything besides itself. It's masturbation.
Neither
How is that relevant?

I don't even want to argue with you, I'm just genuinely interested to know how you reject the possibility of objective truth without recourse to either some form of subjectivism or the wholesale rejection of reality itself.

4 out of 6 senpai

Are you the one that said that I should read more? Because you should read more.

No, I'm not that guy

>“Heidegger commended [Introduction to Metaphysics] [...] as summarising his views at that time (1953) on ontology.”
...

Still not relevant, sorry.

Regardless, you should read more. You have incredibly Newtonian logic.

Well, I was hoping you could at least give me a brief overview of your convictions. I can't even claim that you're wrong or right, because I don't understand where you're coming from to begin with.

Trump is a socialist

dumb stefposter

"Genre fiction" is literature

Stephen Crane's The Monster is the best novella written in the U.S. Period.

Blood Meridian was an awful book.

Why is it only Christlets and atheists who get so ass blasted at the discussion of religious topics?

You guys are supposed to be """"""""enlightened"""""""" but you're more closed minded than people who believe in God.

>T. never been to Singapore.

I felt the same until I went there. It is one of the most soulless cities in the world dude. I couldn't wait to get home when I was there. The people are like robots; they were rude, short when you interacted with them, and extremely materialistic. The entire country is just an endless maze of shopping malls with the exact same retail stores inside them.

Materialism is one of the biggest diseases resulting from super capitalist societies. Its degeneracy.

most of you are off topic:

this is a popular opinion

this popular opinion outside of US universities

this is a popular opinion

opinion held by every girl i've ever met

this is the consensus internationally

and back to topic:
selecting street signs is better proof of humanity than selecting store fronts

i found only two exceptions:
this is indeed unpopular, but also wrong
also unpopular and wrong

Faulkner is one of the five greatest writers in the history of the English language.

this is a popular opinion.

evidently an unpopular opinion around here is "antonyms mean opposite things"

Ayn Rand's philosophy is actually agreeable. The people who tend to disagree either haven't bothered to read her material, or are bleeding heart libcucks.

>her material
clever one
you fucking marxist

>right and wrong

>cannot comprehend it

Come on that's just silly even Jesus himself said a literal retard would be able to comprehend it

A literal retard with the Spirit of God within him, dechu~

Whatever. This is hopeless.

Yes, for you. You're still trapped in Newtonian logic. For me, each day is my own design.

Even if you need the spirit of God that doesn't make it a fantastic piece of literature until it becomes a divine revelation. All you basically said is what I said in the first place.