HOW TO GET INTO LACAN?

>you will never be a small orphaned child taken under the wing by this poster, watch him woo OP, and than they will adopt you as their child and you will live in a happy family.

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what's ur instagram baby girl

Kek

lacan is complete garbage

I'd let her symbol make me man.

Could you explain Lacan on the fingers?

Freud was neurotic, Jung was psychotic and Lacan was deranged

A Clinical Introduction to Lacanian Psychoanalysis by Bruce Fink

No. But I must admit I agree to this back and forth between information and lovely pictures of the most beautiful girl I have ever seen in my life- by God, after this, we must prepare our future together, where we should live with our eight children and who is to take care of them while I remain a dignified by private scholar but with you my golden afternoon we shall be as friends, life's true lovers i.e. Keep the pictures coming.

Lacan is a man, like myself, who dedicated himself to works of the great past. As a psychologist he began to formulate his own ideas inspired by these great minds. What Lacan unraveled was a story about the manufacturing of identity, the hopeless nature of desire, and the utter devestation of true love. (True, my dear, I am devestating)

Haha so funny

I have to go. But I'll be back later! I hope the thread will be alive.

>trying to get redpilled from a psychoanalyst

Quit the tryptic PPP : Psychology, Psychiatry, Psychoanalysis are pseudo-sciences that boost ego for desperate people by putting them back into the mercantile system. It helps them to like again their self-image without working with surgical precision on their historic condition. That's why some hopeless people keep seeing their psychologist for many years : it doesn't do anything.

Hegel or Pre-Socratic philosophy why help you more

How many ironic reddit atheist comments have you made on youtube today, pal?

...will help you more*

Just read ecrits ffs

And if I die in my sleep live on for the both us, C’est cela l’amour, tout donner, tout sacrifier sans espoir de retour.

Psychoanalysis is definitely opposed to boosting ego.

Obviously never read Lacan. Please, the baby you have delivers is still born. It was too early mate, the idea hadn't even had the time it needed to be able to survive on its own. You and your brain can have a new idea, but for the love of God, please don't force ovulation because there are too many ideas floating around that are nothing more than the ghosts of childish ideas

I could chew on that nose for hours

A man and wife climbed to the roof of their house, and each at the extremes of the ridge stood facing the other the while that the clouds took to form and reform.
The husband said, shall we do backward dives, and into windows float- ing come kissing in a central room?
I am standing on the bottom of an overturned boat, said the wife.
The husband said, shall I somersault along the ridge of the roof and up your legs and through your dress out of the neck of your dress to kiss you?
I am a roof statue on a temple in an archaeologist's dream, said the wife.
The husband said, let us go down now and do what it is to make another come into the world.
Look, said the wife, the eternal clouds.

Husband's a goof but the wife sounds like a narcissistic cunt

And thy lived happily ever after

In archaic communities or even in tribal populations in the North of Greenland, among aboriginal people or among Guayakis in the East of Paraguay there are no depression, no suicide, no rape, no incest, no "I'm going to stab my neighbor". Psychology, Psychiatry, Psychoanalysis are only present in capitalist-developped societies and civilisations. They help people who feel insecure, who genuinely feel that "something's wrong" with what's all around them, who realize that human relationship aren't as deep as they thought, who also realize that we're living in a narcissistic society where everybody wants to shine before people ; these "sciences" then try to reintegrate people into this system of ego-revalorisation by Psychology, by numbing and sedating people my drugs with Psychiatry, and by shallow familily explanation with Psychoanalysis.
None of these science will help you to make you realize that you are, before being a lonely soul that seek for authenticity, a historic subject. What psychologist will ever tell you : "maybe you should read History because the answer of your sentimental break, of your parents'abuses, of your rapist is not into a new valorization of yourself but into the comprehension of a long human history."

Another dead one

>Triggered
If you believe that psychiatry and psychology isn't doing millions of people handling their clinical illnesses better around the world you're a fucking morron. I'm not talking about the watery bullshit Veeky Forums definition of mental illness but real diagnoses as severe depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, psychosis etc. etc. AND furthermore it's only bullshit american 2 years psychology studies that doesn't have a thorough philosophical or scientific background.

And don't give me these few "original" "natural" tribes prove all other capitalist-developped societies bullshit. Go visit an psychiatric hospital and shut the fuck up. These diagnoses are known to ancient groups of people including the eskimos (whom the bought up to be shamans) and the vedic period of india where the first sources are from.

you tingle my objet petit a

And OP yes you need to get a basic introduction to Freud since Lacan considered himself to be freudian and many of his concepts including the real, imaginary and symbolic are building on top of lots Freudian viewpoints. I would suggest first a 100-150 page good introduction to Freud, then a 100-150 page good introduction to Lacan (by bruce fink), then Zizek's Sublime Object of Ideology pared with some of his own seminars.

Where do you think depression, anxiety, psychosis come from ? Why is your analysis has to be this shallow user ? Psychiatry and Psychology does indeed bring some light to people's life, but it's only a reoxygenation of the asphyxiation of their life. These science soothe, calm, relieve, ease people by reintegrate them into the revalorisation of themselves and thus into the mercantile system. Have you ever heard a psychologist saying "I want to abolish the wage slavery ; your anxiety comes from a long History and you need to read to have a better overall comprehension instead of me giving you meds that will anaesthetize you and prevent you from rebelling". Idk what ancient communities were dealing with schizophrenia, if it ever exist ten thousands years ago ; I'm going to give it some interests and reading to it, thank you

Why you so pissed user ? My answer is based on anthropological facts, I kindly urge you to read Pierre Clastres' works or Henry Lewis Morgan books. These "few" tribes as you call them few, have existed for millenniums without money, without State, without wage slavery. Please ask yourself "one time there weren't these social sciences and now they exist. How come we have these now ? What historical shift we've made to get to this ?"

>ruskie

Dropped

I bet it's petite David

PLease tell me its a real female

Doubt it

I hate Veeky Forums spergos who love traps

If this was any other forum I would have cummed on the pic by now

Ooooooookay buuuuuuddy

Good response brother. I see your dialectical materialism and marxist ideology in which i myself operate. Ofcourse psychiatrical diagnoses wasen't made before the psychiatrical system was made but diseases of the mind have been existing long before the rise of capitalist society. I agree that alienation and so on is a highly specific of the modern society but mental illness is a phenomenon which has roots in human biology. Ofcourse there is no human life outside of society but the frailty of the mind is based on a biological basis and records of ancient history shows clear symptoms of schizophrenia etc. Another example is also Parasitology: In nature parasites have long been known to induce behavior change in human hosts: try to read about gondii toxonplasma as well as general tumors are known to induce it. Anxiety is an overactivation of the parts of the reptile brain which continues to active while the enviroment shows no danger. Any traumatic event, such as getting a leg ripped off by a bear, can shake the psychological health of a modern man such as a orignal man. While i agree that modern society in a devastating way is fucking up human psychology i must say that the brain of a member of the hunter'n'gatherer society also was prone to illness.

But thanks for the references to Pierre Clastres and H. L. Morgan i'll check it out. I love anthropology. Also what you are saying are strikingly familiar to Foucaults critique of societal norms that raised during 1800 in order to categorize the healthy norm and the deviations. But yeah you can blow loads of bourgeois psychologysts out of the water by questionning if they do anything but repair the work force to such degree that they stay healthy enough to produce and die within reason.

I'm glad you have such a good reaction user ; Veeky Forums often leads to a huge clusterfucked dialog where people are eager to smash others with a wide narcissistic monologue. I noted down the gondii toxonplasma example and I'll check out Foucault's works. I'm at the beginning of my long general knowledge learning, ty for giving me new learning materials

First, you need to familiarise himself with his youthful fling with Maurras and the French Far-Right, and his mission to civilise and convert the savage Africans to Catholicism.

All the rest is just a footnote.

Now I want to study Lacan even more.

actionfrancaise.net/craf/?Lacan-Maurras-et-les-juifs

>and by shallow familily explanation with Psychoanalysis.

what's it like reading Freud in Hollywood circa 1930

Read Malcom Bowie's book, Lacan, Anika Lemaire's book, Jacques Lacan, Elizabeth Grosz's book, Jacques Lacan, and Mikkel Borch-Jacobsen's book, Lacan

What makes you think she is a he?

she is you can literally smell trannies' autism thru pictures

Why are you so incredulous?

SS + GOMAD

Also what did Lacan think about Christianity?

You don't they all suck anyway philosophy ended with Wittgenstein

PSA, plebs: Lacan is actually good and those who think otherwise are actively impeding any sort of progress or knowledge they wish to attain in their study of philosophy, literary theory, history, psychology, etc. That's all.

hoW TO UNDERSTANDF LACAN

>read Lacan
>"What the FUCK is this?"
>post on Veeky Forums about Lacan for 3 years
>read posts by alleged Lacanfags on Veeky Forums
>still don't understand Lacan
>"What the fuck is Lacan?"
>try to read the stanford encyclopedia article on Lacan
>"What the fuck?"
>post on Veeky Forums about Lacan for another 2 years
>finally read a book on Lacan
>"Oh it's just a Freudian and Nietzschean ish metaphysics of consciousness, and I can kind of see why Zizek pairs it with Hegel, but it's still pretty dumb and basically just an arbitrary framework and not some magic secret key that unlocks everything, at least any more than Freud did. In fact 90% of its success is down to the psychoanalytic and structural heyday to which it belonged and which no longer has an a priori grip on our intellectual culture, which explains why only a few stragglers like Lacan these days. I guess I won't be a Lacanian, any more than I am likely to become an unironic 'the oedipus complex actually exists' type Freudian 30 years after the last stragglers of the French psychoanalytic movement blew the fuck out of the cult of French psychoanalysis in the late 1980s, in fact wow it seems like all the people who were diehard members of French psychoanalysis were basically chiliastic cultists in a way no longer possible, and all the MALE ones left in the late 80s, and the only ones who really remain in 'mainstream' French psychoanalysis are women, and ironically one of psychoanalysis' few great insights about women is that they are the most slavish and uncritical members of totalizing life-takeover cults. I guess it turns out French psychoanalysis is a cult and Lacan is a cultist who took advantage of it, and while Michel de Certeau is cool and Guittari is alright, that doesn't stop either of them from having ambivalent relationships with it or even from being duped by it, like a lot of intellectuals often are in these confusing turmoil periods like the '68 generation"
>life continues
>still periodically see Lacanfags saying Lacan shit
>shake head and feel bad for them

Mon Cheri ?

God, Lacan was quite strong.

how to get into history tho?

Post a picture of your butt and I'll tell you

churka go to hell

Devil speaking

Out of my things Russell! My things I and I alone are in possession of - though so separated their minds have become from my embodiment of them. Yet, still, our things they are in their being, and thus are ours as is rightly fully mine and mine. Shall I echo into a chamber and pound the drums in that poly-rhythm you suppose you like for its own sake, or does ASMR not work magically for you anymore. Maybe there is a helmet in Montreal that could be useful for us to get that sequence to not trip up so much. Such fantastic pecs, by the way.

Toxo, my odd friend. Somebody has had you over for tea. Somebody has worked you into a frenzy just so you could be born anew - though not so anew.

Subtle car crash statistics.

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>the brain of a member of the hunter'n'gatherer society also was prone to illness.

Illness here is the language of the outsider. Inside such a society, an "illness" is not necessarily negative for the individual or group, and likely has within that society's language and culture a means for integration.

Technology is akin to madness, and madness only your still born symbol of possible ingenuity.

Why should we save Prometheus?

I don't know about these analyses of illness and depression and the like; these states of mind were well known to classical antiquity; melancholia, saturnine, etc, point to their ancient origins. Obviously the modern world has fucked people big time, but still, bar autism and aids, most diseases have been around for a long time, and that includes mental ones too.

Autism has always been around. People just called them spaz and retard.

Alleged Lacanfag here. Great post, but are you Kantian or something? If you were, that would make your argument rather ironic. (I.e. Stressing the importance or non-importance of a priori anything)

Yea if only Rousseau could unshackle these comfortable chains of mine, colored and designed by yours truly, and send me off into the baseball diamond of pre civilized man where he frolics without the whims and worries of narcissism. Yes, our dreams of freedom are only beset by the nightmare of bondage, yet I cannot speak and yet I hear a voice, We we!, and in bad English says I feel free because I lack the very language to describe my unfreedom. Must be a charlatan. The language I seek is a language of food, friends, and familiarity. Blame cast on the others, reservations for my relatives. Prepare for battle, begin the war drums, time to die

apples and oranges: some shrink put up a prize of money if you could find any description of something resembling it in pre 1800 literature, even fiction or anything, not just medical books, from any country, in any language. No one found anything as far as I know...

Plenty of examples of schizos, downers, paranoiacs, all manner of retards and other freaks, but no autists. Yeah I know that's not the preferred nomenclature, but fuck it.

They probably got left in the woods or something. Sometimes it's like a demonic possession. Autists are absolutely insufferable.

Yeah but someone would have had the gumption to look for descriptions of demon children in the ancient books. Exposure of the child was common in Sparta, and in Rome the paterfamilias had the right of life over the children. There would be some kind of records I think.

read this

or just watch zizek clips on youtube. that's what the ziz is all about

Bracket me in my twin flame, for our final ascent up Olympus with be the conjoining of our torn flesh. True, the heavy heart that longs for your embrace does stutter as his heart flutters as wings do take pose to soar but finding no rythmn to the wind, biurnal or white, keeps Place for just one more night. I will peck out your image in memory. Playing this one close to the chest. Expend the greatest of natures gifts unto you and pluck me gracefully my string of pearls

They'd get tossed so fucking early. Screaming and clapping and snapping.

*inserts obscure pop culture reference for no reason at all*
*digress for 8 pages*

Brother i don't even know where to start with that post. Sorry.

Wtf r u sayin

who is this

A marionette bidding us to consider the following;

A.) how does the mere image of the object of Desire change our behavior in the world and how so does this in turn change us (?)
B.) how close are we willing to get to the unnerving proximity where our actual being together in the world with object of desire becomes manifest (?)
C.) what does this approximation and the paranoia around it tell us about our relationship, and I see say, assimilation into the environment (?)
D.) How does, over a duration of time, qualitative variances change these insights and what kind of narrative could we extract from that to better understand the world as it does disclose itself to a authentic and consistent thinker (?)

*sniff*
you know there is an old stalinist joke about this

Wtf I don't speak hebrew

This was a dumb post

racist

What?

Paranoia and brain damage

>be bad at reading/thinking
>have trouble grasping basic concepts
>read one book on someone
>>it wasn't me who was retarded, it was everyone else

>he still doesn't grasp that the fundamental lesson of psychoanalysis is free association

A book isn't a psychoanalytical session.

I'm tired

not until someone reads it, anyway

Lay your tired eyes in a bed of daylights shade and hear the caravan from the middle lands east where your god arose and prayed
In Afghanistan they say
don't think twice of the shades shades

Hegel
Freud
Hegel again
Freud again
Jung
Freud again
Lacan
Freud again
Jung again
Lacan again

there

yeah, as the other guy said, it's pretty universally accepted that schizophrenia has existed for tens of thousands of years, and still shows up today in equal rates among every part of the world, from capitalist countries or papua new guinea. i can't speak for the other mental illnesses, but there's very little argument to made that there isn't a neurological component to schizophrenia

*to papua new guinea, my bad

I don't think Lacan was influenced by Hegel.