What does this word mean?

the sad part is it's only a matter of time before they find a way to control the internet and stop people from talking about the jq, either that or it will be finally be the end of the "long jewish century"

Goy.. easy on the hatred

They already control it in western Europe. White English men are getting jailed for tweeting while muslim rapists walk free, and the jew Annetta Kahane, a former stasi agent, is in charge of policing hate speech in Germany.

Their system is weaker than they let on though, which is why they're going so hard on forcing third world immigration on us now. It will fall, but whites need to make sure we're in a position to pick up the pieces and gas these kikes for good when it does.

being a nazi is begining to look like the most patrician option givent that the left seems bent on reducing us all to genderless, cultureless, raceless, wheelchair bound polyamorous blobs with an iq of 30 all in the name of equality and feminism. Cultural Marxism is real, it is the leftist cult of victimhood, disease and perversion, of the abnormal and the abhorrent. The repudiation of Mankind's finer elements for the benefit of the almighty victim: the transgender disabled pedosexual autistic diabetic sadomasochist genderqueer muslim crustpunk who also happens to wear a full burka as the Quran wills it. this is the future leftists want for your children.

youtube.com/watch?v=o2Bm_wiRT24

It's really not that hard to understand

Don't kid yourself, being a Nazi is a postmodern meme

the best part about that piece was that like 90% of those dude are actually jews

>Incredulity towards metanarratives.

The only good reply in this post. And it only applies to postmodern philosophy, not so much art and literature.

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pure ideology

on a purely aesthetic level, i find national socialism more convincing than whatever's on tv.
Leftists are Letzer Mensch creating a world that denies Man's will to power and ultimately life itself. If there is future for art, for beauty, for honor and human achievement, this future lies with fascism.
youtube.com/watch?v=xBXoXB3QvyI

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>pure aesthetics

You like the lines?

Postmodernism is the questioning of the foundations of value systems, and has understandably, for example, eroded the basis of aesthetic value in favour of cultural representation because of its claim that the value of aesthetic merit is a Western concept, and hence has no basis when comparing works of other cultures. In essence, it is a black hole.

Progress is a meme

you gotta source for that buddy?

It checks out honestly except the claim that it's 'essentially a black hole' which is an opinion

Also not sure about 'erosion' since questioning doesn't necessarily result in erosion. The foundations of aesthetic theory aren't that weak

It's really little more than the jewish inversion of European cultural norms and value systems. The jews have been doing this in their host nations for millennia, and it's the reason they got kicked out of Egypt way back when -- "normative inversion."

counter-currents.com/2014/06/moses-the-egyptian/

This is a jewish ethnic strategy to weaken the host population and promote themselves to power. That's all postmodernism is and ever was.

t. sage

Wrong, Europeans just invert Jewish cultural norms and value systems.

also don't forget jewish (and islamic) art forbids making representations of gods or men or anything that could be an "idol" so now everything is "abstract" in accordance with jewish law which wasn't hard to do since all the museum directors and art dealers are jews (and occasionally bored arabs with too much money)

Aww ... aren't the true believers of postmodernism cute?

The actually think it's real...

>all new things are abstract
>t. Doesn't know shit about the state of the arts
Pic related is a painting

I work with a bunch of normies who unironically bitch about banalities like PoCWoC representation in netflix's original series. I prefer fascist fantasies of violent annihilation to the void of modernity. probably just means i'm still human.

youtube.com/watch?v=FxZwNVcdGR4

You have just described modernism, not postmodernism

warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=&search_text="jewish inversion"

Can't believe you've been at this for at least two months

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do communists really believe marxism won't degenerate into sharia transgender dystopia within a generation? the majority of leftists are shrieking self flagellating sjws who believe in nothing but the eternal guilt of the white male.

interesting that the galleries that present him appear at least on cursory inspection to be goy owned operations

Not even interesting Christ I thought you said they were all owned by Jews or arabs. You did fucking say that. Your narrative is ignorant. Maybe try actually looking into art before you characterize it in broad strokes to conform to your pathetic victimization fantasy. You are a cuck and a philistine.

t. sage

At what? Exposing jews like you? You starting to sweat, Shlomo?

>sharia
>transgender

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I'm white, don't be dishonest

leftists don't even have a coherent ideology they just want to promote stuff that is gross and degenerate

>i'm white

no one believes that for a second

Do you have an excuse for counter-signaling other whites and defending a tribe of outsiders with disproportionate control over your nation's institutions?

Postmodernism is skepticism of meta-narratives and the notion of objective morality and even faith in human reason and potential. I am not wrong in describing postmodernism as questioning.

The erosion of aesthetic value in favour of cultural representation is not Modernist. It is Postmodernist, and it is the reason for the decrying of the Western Canon in Ivy League universities.

Do you have an excuse for posting non-Veeky Forums related material on Veeky Forums?

Why do you type like tumblr?

given the current state of the academy, anything beyond queer PoCWoC victimhood and the evil of white men is soon going to count as non-Veeky Forums material

Nah we discuss right-wing literature here. If you were white you would be aware of the rules and have a willingness to accept them

I literally answered the question in the OP. You're not very bright, are you? Perhaps that is why you do foolish things like counter-signal the people trying to educate you and defend the people who hate you. I can't do much for stupid, kid.

>we
What a sniveling collectivist shill you are

>I literally answered the question in the OP.

For the past two months? Yes I'm counter-signalling by linking to every time you've said "jewish inversion" on Veeky Forums. If you think that pointing out the lack of development in your argument in such a long period (probably due to a lack of reading) means I'm 'counter-signalling' then I think that speaks to how you perceive the quality of your argument. You know you're being a dishonest shit

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(You)

well nietzsche wrote plenty about this so it's on topic like it or not

Nietzsche said a lot of things

It's very important that white people more shrewd than yourself understand how jewish people think. If they are under the impression that postmodernism is anything more than a jewish inversion of European values and culture, I am going to inform them that they are incorrect and show them why they are wrong. People are free to challenge my argument with ideas and data; unfortunately, there are dimwitted losers like yourself who cannot make them but still, mistakenly, believe they have something to say.

Well try not to invert Veeky Forums culture and values in the process

If you can't learn to listen to what people like me are trying to explain to mentally enslaved people like yourself, you will never have anything beyond this little safe space.

If you presented your arguments in a manner other than raving lunatic you'd probably get better results. There's a reason why Kevin B. MacDonald wrote a whole series of books rather than saying 'look at Egypt, now look at today'. But yes I'm mentally enslaved and not shrewd and whatever you're trying to convince me I am. Whatever works.

or
maybe "leftists" consists of millions of people with differing opinions and not some hivemind meme that you can tack on singular beliefs to

dubs cancel and u have to call a truce, just become a catholic and support your fellow christians whenever possible, the end

I thought I was on Veeky Forums but this must be /pol/ whoopsie

>they are under the impression that postmodernism is anything more than a jewish inversion of European values and culture
I fail to see a connection between Jews subverting European culture and postmodern literature, if you could make that connection with clarity and evidence it would be very appreciated

Raving lunatic? I don't call people faggots or tell them to kill themselves; I'm always respectful and use proper grammar and punctuation. What you do is whine and make excuses for why you aren't educated on the topics you are pretending to be familiar with. This is about you, not me. Can you change and become an informed, intellectually minded thinker, or will you continue to complain and remain in the dark? That's the question you should try to address.

I would say it does apply to art. Haven't read pomo literature enough to say. However, you could say that art became postmodern a lot earlier if we keep that distinction.

Postmodern literature, or postmodern thought, is often concerned with the dethroning of the Western model in favour of multicultural narratives, irrespective of aesthetic merit. They see aesthetic merit, as we know it, to be mere narratives propounded by Western history, and hence, should lose their relevancy in favour of under-privileged minority systems and views. That is why the Western Canon is being challenged.

The grand conspiracy, so to speak, is that the Jews were the forerunners of postmodernism because of their influence in the ideas of Marxism and the Frankfurt School, and are said to have taken control of academia to accelerate the dethroning of the Western Tradition.

Sure. Let's look at postmodern philosophy first. Whereas European philosophy is traditionally concerned with discovering meaning and truth, jewish postmodern philosophy tries to say that there is no meaning or truth, or that it's all subjective to breakdown any hierarchy. Postmodern literature is similar in that is often represents or is concerned with a loss of identity and nihilism, which is the inverse of European literature as a tool for self-discovery and creating an ideal or positive society. Jews have promoted these new "values" through academic and other institutional realms because it has a negative effect, spiritual and otherwise, on their host society.

You don't know anything about me and you don't care to. You thought I was Jewish because I was 'counter-signalling' by linking to your past arguments, fucking lol.

The point is I could be educated on the Jews, I could not be, but regardless you are stepping out of line and acting dishonest which are not accepted traits of whites

If you act jewish, you shouldn't be surprised if you are mistaken for a jew. I agree that dishonesty is a not a trait of whites but you have presented no evidence of where I've been dishonest.

>tfw Spinoza was a Jew

You got rattled and you called me a Jew to try and regain control of the conversation. You've been combative and defensive ever since that moment. You know what you're up to.

you don't know what postmodern literature is.
>Let's look at postmodern philosophy first
pomo philosophy and pomo lit are not connected; postmodernism is the approach the the given field or medium.
see .
>Postmodern literature is similar in that is often represents or is concerned with a loss of identity
This is a very much modernist theme. Read almost any modernist novel and this theme is prevalent.
>and nihilism
I'm being perfectly honest in saying that I have never read a novel with genuinely nihilistic themes, or that seemed to support the nihilist philosophy; all of the pomo I've read has been life affirming, although I have to grant you that much of it contains criticism of certain systems and traditions.
I think you're pushing a false dichotomy into your perspective and it stems from a misconception of postmodernism.
There is completely anti-traditional modernist works in any and every field as well as pro-traditional postmodern works. It's a methodology, not an ideology

Yep, you can't get more life-affirming than criticism of the institutions that deny life. Postmodernism is positive but when it is adopted by those institutions it becomes oppressive, hence the postmodernist critique of those institutions we see again from the right. Pomo is an extention of the classical liberalist project and has everything to do with re-aligning the Western tradition to its core values (that have otherwise been subverted in history, namely the 19th century i.e. modernism) to understand what has gone wrong with realising that intellectual project in the past.

I think you suffer from delusion. You're no concern to me. You're the one who remembered me and hunted down old posts. That's weird behavior. I was simply making fun of you for it here:

We'll let everyone who can see your old posts decide who is suffering from delusion. It might be the guy repeating literally the same thing for months on end.

>pomo philosophy and pomo lit are not connected
Of course they're connected. It's foolish to state otherwise.

>I think you're pushing a false dichotomy into your perspective and it stems from a misconception of postmodernism

No ... I think it's quite obviously you who doesn't understand it very well. Start with McHale's book, that should provide you with an entry-level understanding of the discussion here.

You are weird for looking up people's posts. Period. I have no issue with them, or even with you directing people toward them, and am happy to repeat myself if it helps others gain a better understanding of jewish machinations.

>you can't get more life-affirming than criticism of the institutions that deny life
Would you care to share a passage from a postmodern novel where you've read this? I could certainly name more than several modernist novel that do.
>Postmodernism is positive but when it is adopted by those institutions
What institutions? Also pomo is not positive, it is neutral.
>Pomo is an extention of the classical liberalist project and has everything to do with re-aligning the Western tradition to its core values (that have otherwise been subverted in history, namely the 19th century i.e. modernism) to understand what has gone wrong with realising that intellectual project in the past.
Postmodernism is a response to modernism, and that's all it is. It doesn't work in concert with itself, it's not an ideology, it's not charged with positive or negative connotation, it's just a methodology. I can't help but think that you have absolutely no understanding of any artistic medium.
when you're watching The Office and a character looks directly in the camera with a facial expression that's a postmodern film technique.
When DFW gives you an onslaught of entertaining and oddly specific digressing footnotes, that's a postmodern literature technique.
Emphasizing a beautiful image by contrasting it against an ugly backdrop? Postmodern imagery.
Contemporary homes with adobe reminiscent of modernist Mexican homes? Postmodern architecture.
Postmodernism has nothing to do with Jews or the right/left dichotomy or politics or any of the stupid shit you project onto it.

Pray tell what postmodernism is. Give a definition to end all definitions so that we don't have to have these PoMo threads anymore.

see This thread should not have made it this far.

>Of course they're connected. It's foolish to state otherwise.
Postmodernist literature stems from modernist literature just as it precedes metamodernist literature, although it's not as linear as all that. the "subject" of pomo literature is modernist literature. Pomo lit is not a vehicle for pomo philosophy's ideas. If you've read any it would be starkly obvious and we wouldn't be having this dumbass conversation.

Read literally any modernist work. Something tells me you'd be surprised to find it's not European traditionalist propaganda and in fact is often critical of such

Then define Modernism so that we can close this thread.

woah really exposes the truth about white privilege. banksy would be proud

Modernism is theory derived from an enlightenment period that is applied to such.
So enlightenment says "hey check out this new thing" (painting, film, literature, knitting, etc.) it's new, experimental, and generally kind of bad because we're just figuring out what the thing is
Modernism says "alright we've been doing this for a while, here's what we this the best way to do it". This is where the artform explodes in a direction and is often regarded as it's golden age. We've figured out what the thing is and theory is formed, that's the mark of modernism. theory, structure, composition, etc.
Then postmodernism comes in and says "is it that the best way? What if we did it like THIS instead? What if we did this new technique instead of that old technique? Why do we do X instead of Y when Y seems to be more effective? I like X about modernism, here's a different angle on it called X2. Also, everything modernism thought about this or that is wrong or misinformed.
And then metamodernism comes in and says "thanks for the information, pomo, even though half of it was retarded" (pomo is inherently bad like 75% of the time) then reforms the modernist movement of developing theory with the new information and techniques derived from the pomo period.
BUT IT ISN'T THAT LINEAR. they overlap and shit, and often skip movements altogether

The same themes are prevalent in both postmodern philosophy and literature, and there's a reason for that. We're talking about an ideology here, and one that was instituted from the top down to the point where it is now thoroughly woven into the fabric of every humanities discipline. You seem to think we're talking about an organic force that transitioned by way of its own here, when nothing could be further from the truth.

Please consult McHale's book on postmodern literature as I advised. You're out of the loop on the basics here.

You're weird for posting the same thing for two months. You specifically single out threads on postmodernism to do it, too. And if you have no issue with them, why do you claim I was counter-signalling and therefore a Jew? What a joke.

Thank you

I'm not the guy who was talking about the Jews, I was agreeing with you.

There are definitions given nearly every time this thread is given. A definition doesn't stop these threads from being made. The people who make them don't even read the wiki article

>two months
So that maybe in two years, once you've matured a little and hit your first single with some fine gal, something will click.

someone make a starter kit or something so it can just be posted when the thread is young

Maybe once you're matured you'll see how dishonest and deluded you are. These are non-arguments. Please stop posting non-arguments.

I made an argument, you whined and looked up old posts because you're a weirdo, and that's about as far as this exchange ever got. You're white, stop acting creepy and take the loss like a man.

Yes, whites = good, Jews = bad is an outstanding argument. Look at Egypt, look at now. You've convinced everyone -- thanks for playing.

I'll try again: my argument here is that there is a documented jewish group evolutionary strategy where they invert the norms and values of their host population. There is documentation of this going back to Egypt, where jews were kicked out for practicing what leading Egyptologist Jan Assmann describes as "normative inversion." What was sacred when jews came to power, was desacrilized; the polytheism the Egyptians engaged in was replaced with monotheism, etc. I extrapolate this concept using postmodernism -- the ideas of which have been promoted heavily by jews in the postwar era -- as a modern example of this behavior, though we can also point to the jewish promotion of homosexuality and other inversions of traditional norms to back it up.

Now your counter-argument please?

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