What books can I read to help me better understand the absurd and disturbing political climate we find ourselves in, and how to deal with irrational bad actors infiltrating government?
Should I get Mein Kampf to get inside the heads of these people? I've been engaging in rational debate my whole life and trying to be intellectually honest, curious, and skeptical, but it seems like these people aren't and that "tactic" won't work. What do we do?
What do I read?
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anything by chomsky
>Should I get Mein Kampf to get inside the heads of these people
literally none of them have read that shit. if anything you should be reading ayn rand.
Read Culture of Critique series but replace mentions of Jews with white people and be surprised at how accurate it is
True Believer by hoffer
Read the Talmud, understand why a certain group of people would want to weasel into the culture and politics of others, and why they would want to manipulate the minds of those like your's, OP.
Top Kek, but don't tell the goyim.
>anything ingroup preferancial
Yeah no, user. White people have like an anti-ingroup preferance rather helping worthless dindus in africa than thir fellow white men.
But nice try.
This. The """alt-right""" don't read, and those that do force themselves to slog through it to say that they have but retain none of the information and cherrypick for the sake of internet banter and """intellectual""" street cred.
Read some Alexander Dugin, and then realize it's all a cover for Carny Bullshit.
That's right, these men believe that "The only part that's real is the money and the miles".
Citizens are just marks, faceless blobs whose only function is to produce currency.
You want to know what the "Current Political Climate" is all about? Go to the state fair and watch people play the games a while.
>Mein Kampf
>alt right
user, bitte.
or you could just kys.
But they want their countries for themselves so yes they have an ingroup preference. Meddling in other countries is just virtue signalling for other whites, status and breeding essentially
>But they want their countries for themselves
A minority (ethno nationalists) want it. But look at native white country and show me one which wants to be white and isn't pressured by the rest to get enriched. Example: Poland: The only reason it could steal away was because it was so poor, knowwhere it's getting wealthy the whole EU and even the USA wants it to take migrants and end up like the west (London, UK and Frankfurt, GER already beeing majority non-native metropolis). White people rather act altrusitic due to evolutionary pressure to do so, rather than look for nationalities. A harsh winter never careed. You either help each other out or you die. This suicidal altruism is unique and that's why only white nations comin enriching suicide.
There is a reason why you always hear africa for africans, asia for asiasn and Isreal for jews but never without beeing called literaly Hitler Europe for europeans. Somehow every people have the right o their own soil and restricting people, just not the white race aben though it was the only one always giving away more than it's ever gotten (just check the numbers on the Empires colonialism, the bigger it has gotten the more it was foreign aid rather than a win situation. That'S why it had to peak either winning WW2 or keeping colonies. It was too expansive to help third worlders in their country so those simple came to the west for gibs.
The Fourth Political Theory.
Literally THE political treatise of the 21st century.
I, too, am enlightened by my own intelligence.
>What books can I read to help me better understand the absurd and disturbing political climate we find ourselves in
"Listen, Liberal" by Thomas Frank for how the Democrats became the dipshit capitalist donor cocksuckers they are today. Not that they were marxist revolutionaries back in the day, quite the opposite.
>Example: Poland: The only reason it could steal away was because it was so poor, knowwhere it's getting wealthy the whole EU and even the USA wants it to take migrants
and where did that wealth come from, did it materialize out of thin air? "oh we'll use all of this EU money that benefits us but when the time comes to take a couple thousand migrants it's an apocalypse". the eternal pole strike again.
I don't think Poland signed up for dividing their own people and culture by flooding it with hordes of non-assimilating war aged muslim men.
Understand that some people want power and they have ways to get it. Cause and effects and who benefits and who suffers.
In the end it's simple.
Good thing nobody was considering that.
But Poland's people and culture are apparently so weak and pathetic that taking in a couple thousand of brown people will make 38 million people disappear.
No, it is the exact opposite. Poland's culture is strong enough that they have managed to resist it together. It's rather beautiful in age where Britain, Germany, France and Sweden have gone down the toilet. In 20-30 years when Germany and France are muslim states, east Europe wlll be the only European place left.
>eastern europe
>european
pick one
they're mongolians and assorted asiatics larping as whites
The reason for the absurd political climate is the drop of testosterone, caused by the chemicals in the food and a sedentary lifestyle.
So people act like giant pussies.
Another reason is prosperity/peace, which makes societies matriarchal and "degenerate". That's why bonobos are different from chimps:
en.wikipedia.org
On top of that internet gave people ADD, so they're unable to think properly.
Gtfo, only small parts of the Balkans are.
You're an idiot
People are "emotional" for being up in arms about public officials auctioning off land for pennies on the dollar to his friends? For expecting the President to freely and exuberantly condemn a Nazi rally which resulted in deaths? For caring about the future of the planet itself?
No, you've created a narrative where liberals are "emotional" when it's really that you're apathetic, due to the amazing comfort that liberal society has afforded you. All of this is here because of liberal ideology allowing humans to focus on more prosperous activities such as technological and medical development. Something not supported by conservative ideology
Go fuck yourself idiot
>Nazi rally
>Nazi rally
IT LITERALLY WAS.
How does Ayn Rand have to do anything with the alt right?
I'd say anyone who wants to understand them should watch their videos. Try their website: daily stormer and /pol/
Their videos are easy to find on youtube.
ah yes, "no we're not, THEY ARE"
accept it friend, you're all mongrels over there
there is a reason why the word "blood" is present in the "blood & soil" motto and yours is irreparably screwed by the asian peoples even if on the surface you look white
there are nignogs who look white too and they're still nignogs, why use different standards for you?
>How does Ayn Rand have to do anything with the alt right?
Op did not mention the alt right.
>Try their website: daily stormer and /pol/
Perhaps the least alt right of the so called alt right.
Read this guy.
No, it wasn't.
>>>/reddit/
Trump is just a symptom of a pussified society. He would not have happened if it wasn't for SJWs and retarded liberals.
If people were apathetic as you say, they'd have voted for another Obama (Hillary) term, but they wanted change. They realize this nonsense is leading the West towards extinction and we're literally better off experimenting with a clown than continuing on the same path.
>liberal ideology allowing humans to focus on more prosperous activities such as technological and medical development
Maybe 100 years ago that was true, nowadays the liberal ideology is leading towards a US that will resemble Brazil.
this. America was in decline in its role as the leading superpower. It was playing 2nd to China. They needed a someone like Trump, to put them back in the spotlight. But i doubt US will resemble like brazil. All these skilled cheap labor immigrants from asia (excluding the dunecoons from middleeast) seems to be making good.
no it wasnt. Its bunch of white cucks and commie losers
This.
Mein Kampf isn't an inspiration to Trump at all. he isn't a collectivist hellbent on the extermination of Jews. He's just a dimwit who lucked into power. Read his books if you want to know more about him.
White people like to don the flag of altruism. The interest of other is seen as moral now that morality is no longer derived from the world view, but installed and manufactured by most of the media and the public education.
Start questioning the holy taboos, like paying debt, and you'll see how free these people are.
>America was in decline in its role as the leading superpower. It was playing 2nd to China. They needed a someone like Trump, to put them back in the spotlight.
I'm not sure. Democrats are just as warmongering and imperialistic as Republicans/Trump, if not more.
I'm not at all convinced that Trump can improve the US economically, it could really go either way.
To me Trump vs Democrats is more of an internal cultural thing, something that can affects things in the future.
>strong
No, it's so shit that even Pollacks themselves don't want to live there let alone immigrants.
>it literally wasn't
The rally was called unite the right and there were even libertarians there. You would think someone from Veeky Forums would understand media bias by now.
Why is /pol/ always associated with alt-right? There just being politically incorrect a-holes, it has nothing do with the "alt-right" frenzy
I'm a burger, just one who's spent a lot of time in EE, and you're not only wrong, but an idiot as well. Fuck off with your jewish d&c of white people.
It is because ledditors took their memes and started using them, also normies think the right is all under one banner. I mean shit the average person would take one look at /pol/ and think its all Nazis, they don't want to know them, they are their opposition and it is easier to just call them alt right.
>n-no we're not ACTUAL nazis it's all ironic hehe
>pls don't disown me mom & dad
>pls don't fire me burger king
>the last 2 years have been a prank
>we're all just havin fun it's not like stormfaggots have taken over our board and made it their own
>btw the death of the girl in charlestonville is a jewish false flag funded by soros
D&C?
look buddy I'm not saying EE is a bad place or that the people are bad, but it's not us, they're not our people, not our blood
they live theri own lives we live ours
Blood and soil is not about race, it's about any unified ethnic group.
Well, then you're retarded. Eastern Europe has hordes of tall and blond good looking Slavic people. Of course they are our blood, and most of them are standing up stronger than their cousins in the west are right now. And 95% are also of course white. There is no reason for anyone who is pro-white to be making the kinds of statements you are, European solidarity across the west (and east) is important right now.
>D&C?
Divide and conquer
The /pol/ of years ago was more overtly Nazi than it is now. It's become toned down due to civic nationalism from Trump supporters. The main difference is the increased user base and the accompanying exploitation of the board by various (not necessarily right-wing) political interests. But it was always a Nazi board.
>Eastern Europe has hordes of tall and blond good looking Slavic people.
slavs != white
they're fine people but they're not us and they will never be
their help will be needed but don't be retarded and start breeding with them
and they'll agree with this as well, we live our separate lives in our separate countries instead of forcing our respective cultures on each other
the key to peace is a respect between nations end ethnicities
Alt-right is a Clinton invention.
Richard Spencer did not even exist before Clinton went on a tirade about it.
Shills exposed.
Breeding with them and forcing our respective cultures on each other? What are you talking about. Barreling into a thread shit talking eastern Europeans and claiming they aren't white is something jews do, so cut it out if you're actually pro-white. Europeans share a close history and genetic composition, and people who say the kind of bullshit you have itt deserve to be treated with suspicion.
Why do you lump Trump with neocons and democrats? Clinton and McCain are on a completely different level of warhawks to Trump. Fucking McCain is seen in Ukraine, Libya, Syria. Clinton brought down both Libya and Syria on her state dept watch.
Trump's only act of military aggression was bombing a fucking airfield with 1 hour notice to Russians to minimize casualties.
He PREVENTED (well, him and his admin) a war with North Korea most likely. Clinton wanted entire Syria as no fly zone to shoot down Ruskie planes.
Why put Trump on the same warhawk basket as the rest of them?
This. It's pretty clear a shitposter judging by his illogical non-arguments.
That was exactly the moment I stopped supporting Trump. I know it was delusional to think he'd be different but it was the closest thing to a real chance we ever had. At least I got to see Hillary's dreams get crushed.
christ, what's so difficult to understand
these people have a different language and a different culture and you two think that cause their skin is pale they're your brothers or something
I'm fine with encouraging that kind of view for PR purposes cause we will need global solidarity of white people but they're not us and they will never be
shit, mixing with them is straight up multiculturalism and I'm not down with that, I don't want to hear press 2 for russian instead of press 2 for spanish in 50-60 years
I want a white american ethnostate
Chomsky, Baudrillard, Debord.
American politics are so stupid. The Americans that truly get into them are some of the worst people in the world, and that is really saying something.
yeah this, this is what all aussies ironically believe.
/pol/ is honestly the most diverse forum of ideas and people I've ever witnessed. Just because they don't censor Nazis doesn't mean that the whole place is stormfags.
>I stopped supporting Trump when he made a non-relevant strike on Syria.
featherweight or a shill. either way, anything clinton would've been worse. obama-like president wouldn't even do anything, he'd let China cuck U.S. further.
>Calls American politics stupid while shilling for Aristotle "through post-modern dictionary jargon" Baubillariondard.
0/10, no continue, Baubillard is literally garbage and complete leftist meme.
>Chomsky
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAHHHAH.
didn't mean to say ironically**
>If people were apathetic as you say, they'd have voted for another Obama (Hillary) term
Yes, because when you're apathetic you will drag your carcass to the polling booth instead of stay at home, jerk off and watch an episode of Workaholics.
Cause apathy is the state of mind when you REALLY REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING, right?
Fuck's sake.
Very diverse, there's all kinds of rightwingers there, from garden variety Republicunts to Nazis.
If the entirety of America was nuked and destroyed the world would be a much better place.
My example would be this poster:
Probably featherweight. If I'm a shill I do it for free. The "Clinton would be worse" is obviously true.
White is an American term anyway and Europeans don't want to be called whites, because that would essentially mean they've been Americanized.
America is kinda fucked up beyond repair, the only reason it keeps going without people going crazy is because it's large enough that people can effectively still segregate.
Because:
1. I don't think Trump has strong anti-war political views.
2. Even if he does, he has to play ball with Republicans and the (military) establishment, he can't just do crazy stuff on his own.
>what is /leftypol/ ?
There are Muslims, Asians, Jews, Slavs, Africans, south Americans and Europeans constantly shitposting there. There are daily threads for anarchism, communism, socialism, fascism, capitalism , libertarianism and ancap generals. Just because you've never spent time there and prefer to listen to cnn or some youtubers "facts" on Veeky Forums doesn't make it untrue.
Not an argument.
You do realize Trump had to do it? Obama didn't and he looked like a complete cuck to Syria-Russia. Can't have that when you are supposed to be the change.
>cause their skin is pale
>I want a white american ethnostate
Sure you do, shlomo. The jews were over there before doing exactly what they're doing over here now, and you're trying to argue about how Slavs aren't white without mentioning the jewish problem. Take the shit you're selling elsewhere, no one's buying it here.
>1. I don't think Trump has strong anti-war political views.
He has, in that he doesn't support nation building, interventionism and Trump and Mattis both have consistently said they do not want nation building, regime change in Syria nor in North Korea.
>2. Even if he does, he has to play ball with Republicans and the (military) establishment, he can't just do crazy stuff on his own.
Have you not read any interview by James Mattis, the man Trump chose for his cabinet? He is very anti-war himself.
Yeah, I heard it's hasbara territory now too.
Its just pissing in a sea of piss.as always.
The essence of the current Left is captured entirely by Harry Potter and Star Wars, so study those.
To the extent that I ever paid attention to /pol/ it was 8pol, but that place has its own jewish infiltration issues, though there's definitely no tolerance of civnat bs.
Are all those flag other than america, are proxy then?
I tried 8pol once but It seemed kind of like a dead board
Which one of my points is that supposed to refute? Did I say everyone on the board was American? Basic reading skills.
It is bleeding users due to one of the long term hotpockets (imkampfy) who has basically turned it into his own personal board (whether he deliberately did this is big question among users who left the site in the various exoduses). I stopped visiting maybe 18 months ago. It used to be good. A wide variety of political positions (even /leftypol/ posted there, before it split, as did lots of NRx guys till they were run off), literature threads, philosophy threads, among other topics.
Slow but more serious. I'm not someone who was raised on image boards though, so it's all fast to me.
>Poles aren't white
>Poles have the highest concentration of R1a (the actual aryan one) on the whole planet
Poles are the most aryan and unmixed whites there are.
t. the leftypol-tard to intelligent for leddit
That guy is an idiot. I've been to nearly every country in eastern Europe and except for a few post-ottoman pockets in the Balkans and Romania kind of, most of the people are extremely white, Poland, as your pic obviously shows, included.
Where is everyone going then?
The tragedy of America is that it will be a long slow agonizing descent, a death from a thousand paper cuts.
Why? Because as much as it sucks, the majority of Americans still leave reasonably comfy lives, away from niggers, SJWs, nazis, poverty or anything that threatens their normal life. Internet and TV make things look bigger than they really are.
So it will take a while for the masses to be personally affected and motivated to change things.
Your implying everyone on /pol/ was some kind of stormfront user. The whole shtick about /pol/ is being politically incorrect. Your just mad because you think /pol/ has some kind of influence on mainstream culture
>In India, high frequencies of this haplogroup is observed in West Bengal Brahmins (72%)[37] to the east, Konkanastha Brahmins (48%)[37] to the west, Khatris (67%)[3] in the north and Iyengar Brahmins (31%)
>In Pakistan it is found at 71% among the Mohanna tribe in Sindh province to the south and 46% among the Baltis of Gilgit-Baltistan to the north.
let's welcome our brothers from india and fucking pakistan
fuck off geneshill
like I said later, even if they're white our cultures are different
>he doesn't know what aryans are
>he doesn't know how indo-europeans ended up where they are
>he doesn't know about the different races of india
Leave us, jew. Your tricks have no power here.
Even hitler admired the Polish people and stole their aryan looking kids, because they are whiter than germanic people, including germans.
> Poles are the most intelligent of all the people with whom Germany came across during the war in Europe... Poles in my opinion and basing on the observation and reports from the General Government, are the only nation in Europe that combines high intelligence with the incredible cleverness. They are the most talented people in Europe, because while living in extremely difficult political circumstances, acquired the great sense of living, unparalleled anywhere.
>Based on recent research made by Reichsrassenamt, the scientists came to the belief that Poles should be assimilated into German society as a racially valuable. Our scholars concluded that a combination of German orderliness with Polish imaginativeness would give excellent results
Our Aryan ancestors wrecking south Asia 4000 years ago and making swaths of their population semi-functional does not justify your present-day animosity toward slavs.
>Your implying everyone on /pol/ was some kind of stormfront user.
Taken over =/= 100% of pol users are from stormfront.
Anonymous boards thrives on the free flow of discussion they enable. It's hard to stop that kind of discussions (except if you remove the board) but it is easily redirected, if you have enough dedicated individuals working in concert. And that's what stormfaggots are, they sensed a huge opportunity to bring their ideology from the dank basements of nazi retards into the less dank basements of video game retards and jumped at it because that kind of opportunity comes once in your life. When you see a shitty forced meme it was 100% made by a stormnigger.
What's the point of kicking a statue? Wouldn't it just hurt your foot?
>Where is everyone going then?
One of the big mysteries noticed by groups of anons that generate an exodus from 8pol is that every exodus tends to have "follow on forces" to the place in question where these forces are anti-exodus in intent (suggesting that imkampfy is working with some outside organized group). Boards on cripplechan like /politics/ and /polk/ were destroyed and taken over either weeks or months after the exoduses there. There are a few outsider boards as well. 8 pl, next chan, end chan, meguca, among others. Most of these are deader than cripple though, and also contain a lot of morons due to the bleed out from the original stock of anons from 2014.
I know for a fact that a lot of the originals from 2014 have all moved to frogtwitter or NRx (like social matter). /leftypol/ actually isn't that bad on certain topics. I don't particularly like the left, but I do agree with their criticisms of capital and issues about the environment, so I go there sometimes.
yeah, i'm bored with this
not a jew, just an eastern euro who likes shitting on nazi retards
He should've ignored the whole situation. I don't know what interest we have in whatever oil pipeline they want to run through Syria and I don't care.
I'm not a lefty. I'm just against fighting in unjust wars. Why do you want to fight so badly for some stupid pipe for some stupid oil company? The corporation could nuke Syria and build the pipe with Syrian children for all I care, America doesn't need to be involved.
>I'm not a jew, goyim, I'm just promoting divide and conquer of the last few white while shittalking the purest nation because I so happen to dislike the idea of ethno nationalism, but Im not a jew
My Nürnberger Gesetzte are tingling.
But aren't there about as many people there as there always were, between 2500-3500? I was never full-on there and stopped visiting regularly about a year ago. Really started getting a weird feeling when they would direct all their attention toward the right. Just seemed like a jew operation, though I know that was always kind of the culture.
I go by pph, not unique IPs. Awhile back on /sudo/ it was shown that certain board IPs were being artificially inflated by bots (and no one knows why). If we go by pph, then it has dramatically changed if you compare archived shots of the boards page (also note that recent archives drop pph from archival, while years ago had it, suggesting something funny is up. For some reason, Jim doesn't want people to keep archived info about pph, but is ok with artificially inflated IPs).