Trying this again
I always see language learning threads and reading group threads, so why not combine them?
Does anyone want to form a German reading group?
The goal would be to read German classics and improve our reading skills in German. So you'd need to be intermediate level at least.
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fuck you! nazi!
I'm down, seems fun.
Holy shit, real life 56%er.
Nice. Depends on what we're reading though.
Suggestions?
Personally I want to read something canonical.
Going to post Bloom's Germany list for easy access, and to see if anyone's interested in anything on it.
Erasmus
>In Praise of Folly
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>Faust, Parts One and Two
>Dichtung und Wahrheit
>Egmont
>Elective Affinities
>The Sorrows of Young Werther
>Poems
>Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship
>Wilhelm Meister's Years of Wandering
>Italian Journey
>Verse Plays
>Hermann and Dorothea
>Roman Elegies
>Venetian Epigrams
>West-Eastern Divan
Friedrich Schiller
>The Robbers
>Mary Stuart
>Wallenstein
>Don Carlos
>On the Naïve and Sentimental in Literature
Gotthold Lessing
>Laocoön
>Nathan the Wise
Freidrich Hölderlin
>Hymns and Fragments
>Selected Poems
Heinrich von Kleist
>Five Plays
>Stories
Novalis (Friedrich von Hardenburg)
>Hymns to the Night
>Aphorisms
Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
>Fairy Tales
Eduard Mörike
>Selected Poems
>Mozart on His Way to Prague
Theodor Storm
>Immensee
>Poems
Gottfried Keller
>Green Henry
>Tales
E. T. A. Hoffmann
>The Devil's Elixir
>Tales
Jeremias Gotthelf
>The Black Spider
Adalbert Stifter
>Indian Summer
>Tales
Friedrich Schlegel
>Criticism and Aphorisms
Georg Büchner
>Danton's Death
>Woyzeck
Heinrich Heine
>Complete Poems
Richard Wagner
>The Ring of the Nibelung
Friedrich Nietzsche
>The Birth of Tragedy
>Beyond Good and Evil
>On the Genealogy of Morals
>The Will to Power
Theodor Fontane
>Effi Briest
Stefan George
>Selected Poems
Hugo von Hofmannsthal
>Poems and Verse Plays
>Selected Prose
>Selected Plays and Libretti
Rainer Maria Rilke
>Selected Poetry (including the Duino Elegies)
>The Sonnets to Orpheus
>The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge
>New Poems: First Part and Other Part
Hermann Broch
>The Sleepwalkers
>The Death of Virgil
>Hugo von Hofmannsthal and His Time
Georg Trakl
>Selected Poems
Gottfried Benn
>Selected Poems
Franz Kafka
>Amerika
>The Complete Stories
>The Blue Octavo Notebook
>The Trial
>The Diaries
>The Castle
>Parables, Fragments, Aphorisms
Bertolt Brecht
>Poems, 1913-1956
>The Threepenny Opera
>The Good Woman of Setzuan
>Mother Courage and Her Children
>Galileo
>The Caucasian Chalk Circle
Arthur Schnitzler
>Plays and Stories
Frank Wedekind
>Lulu Plays
>Spring Awakening
Karl Krauss
>The Last Days of Mankind
Günter Eich
>Moles
Thomas Mann
>The Magic Mountain
>Stories of Three Decades
>Joseph and His Brothers
>Doctor Faustus
>Confessions of Felix Krull, Confidence Man
Alfred Döblin
>Berlin Alexanderplatz
Hermann Hesse
>The Glass Bead Game (Magister Ludi)
>Narcissus and Goldmund
Robert Musil
>Young Törless
>The Man Without Qualities
Joseph Roth
>The Radetzky March
Paul Celan
>Poems
Thomas Bernhard
>Woodcutters
Heinrich Böll
>Billiards at Half-Past Nine
Ingeborg Bachmann
>In the Storm of Roses
Hans Magnus Enzensberger
>Poems for People Who Don't Read Poems
Walter Benjamin
>Illuminations
Robert Walser
>Selected Stories
Christa Wolf
>Cassandra
Peter Handke
>Slow Homecoming
Max Frisch
>I'm Not Stiller
>Man in the Holocene
Günter Grass
>The Tin Drum
>The Flounder
Friedrich Dürrenmatt
>The Visit
Johannes Bobrowski
>Shadow Lands
I think if we're going to be reading things this challenging then it should be structured so that we take small steps and then meet up again to discuss and make sure we're understanding it.
I know the Sorrows of Young Werther is an epistolary novel; might that be a good starting point? We could do a letter a day or something like that?
I would imagine that it would be good. I read it a while ago, and I enjoyed it. While the grammar and spellings were a tad archaic, I was able to understand it fine.
How did you get to intermediate level and how long did it take? I'd love to join in.
I learned vocabulary until I had like 1000 words and then started learning grammar.
Studying vocabulary and grammar is actually the easy part, it's when you get to immersion that you hit a plateau.
You should join the group I don't think you will be able to read with us but you could definitely use it to ask questions.
I'm not sure how we should set this up, there seems to be 4 of us? Where should we stay in touch and talk?
i suggest a facebook group / irc or discord channel
If we're reading Der Tod des Vergil by Broch I'm definitely in. Werther is fine too, but it'll be a reread.
dude read The Robbers by Schiller (although it might be pretty hard for learners) but its awesome
I'd recommend starting with some 'modernist' short stories and novellas because they use the german you would learn nowadays (Goethe german is a whole different beast) some good one @ the top of head
Mann novellas (Tonio Kröger, death in venice, Mario und der Zauberer, Tristan)
Hesse - siddartha
Kafka short stories
Grass - Katz und Maus
Make a discord
Sup guys, made a Discord channel:
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That's not an invite link.
I'm reading Der Steppenwolfe, by Hesse
Got an invite link?
I recently started reading Werther in German. I'd be interested
Where's the invite link you absolute turd
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>Germany List
>Erasmus
>his name is literally Erasmus of Rotterdam
I think that list was actually compiled by one of Bloom's lackeys, look at the recommendation of both the Bhagavad Gita and the Mahabharata. The former is a part of the latter, it is like recommending Dubliners and Araby by Joyce.
We all noticed that but were too decent to point out an obvious and probably merely copy-paste mistake.
Then you came along.
I'm extremely retarded, sorry, let's see if this works.
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>i suggest a facebook group
why so you can hack us