Al/ck/ general

Tonight will be my forth night sober. I want to go buy a 12er sooo bad, but I need to save sheckels and lose weight in a big way this year.

Time to celebrate that newfound sobriety. ‘Eh, I’ve proven to myself I can do it. One more night won’t hurt’

1 year
did 1 year with a big month long relapse for 3 years in a row

I’m on day 8, and hating every second. Got to ‘sleep’ last night at 5.22am. Neighbour’s soon-to-be-poisoned dog woke me up at 6.

Is this a meme drink, or good value?
bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42558331

>was up to a fifth every day
>puked blood 3 months ago
>taper and stay loyal to it
>no more shakes
>heart feels good
>wonderful nights of sleep
>can go a good couple of days without drinking

The best part is I don't even want to back out of my taper. It sucks when I finish that last drop of alcohol for the day but at least I'm a lot better of now. Fuck those withdrawal symptoms.

first solid shit in weeks. 3 days sober. thank god.

Are there any supplements for alcoholics? It seems that everything online is just for recovering alcoholics, not ongoing. I was trying things like b complex, magnesium taurate, zinc, and a few others, but nothing seems to do much for anxiety after eating or my raised heartrate after my first drink, which I assume has to do something with my GABA downregulation.

I'm on multivitamin and milk thistle, and sometimes a b complex. Tudca or udca helps with liver damage, but only if you're not drinking at the time.

>heart feels good

what does that feel like

look into l-glutamine.

Beating steadily but still emotionally devastated.

Oh, another thing, activated charcoal. If you take like 10-20 tabs in a night, it will prevent alcohol absorption, but if you're doing so right before bed it might help your morning. Makes you a more expensive drunk but does have its benefits. Wear black underpants tho

im proud of you

Had to take two courses of antibiotics for a skin infection so I took two weeks off twice but that was over ten years ago.

Last year, I think I totalled maybe 15 days sober at the very most. Did five of those in a row.

>raised heartrate after my first drink
There's a youtube video about that that's shared here regularly, about addiction when booze works as an upper instead of a downer.
I don't have the link or remember the title, but I'm sure some user will help.

Oh, I saw that one, but basically summizes that it's a major reason why some people are alcohols, and didn't offer anything else.

Will do, also saw this posted last thread
>Try 30-60mg zinc gluconate for a few weeks to balance your electrolytes. Zinc ions electrically stabilize your HR.

charcoal does not absorb alcohol.
why spread false shit?

Is it not used for alcohol poisoning?

tfw your dick still works

A couple of months. I've tried quitting again. Since I moved back home with my parents, and getting on meds and into therapy, I've drank twice. The first time, I had like 4 drinks, but it fucked me up with my meds. Then like 3 weeks ago, I had a Guinness, and that actually got me a little buzzed, but I felt depressed afterwards. I haven't had a drink since. I felt tempted the other night, but otherwise, I haven't had any cravings. I just want to get my life together, and maybe only socially drink, but for now, I want to stay sober at least until I get over my depression.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3710499

Hanging onto that "maybe one day I can drink normally" thing is super annoying. I still do it. 37 yrs old, tons of examples why i should not ever drink again, but i will. Good luck to you man.

Is is really just 6 p.m or is my clock lying hard?

Yeah, I mean deep down in the back of my mind, I know how easily I will slip down to drinking a lot again. I've told myself so many times that if I were to drink, it would be only socially. Then I end up drinking alone after a couple of weeks.

I just hate the idea of complete abstinence because I do still want to have a social life, and I feel like I'd be a wet blanket if I went out and stayed sober, not even having one or two drinks. Plus it sucks being the only sober one in the group. I honestly don't like hanging out with people if they are drinking, unless I'm drinking myself.

I guess at least I have weed still I guess. I haven't smoked weed in like 2 months though, and I plan on staying sober while I find a new job.

Yep. I fucking hate daylight savings time. It's so depressing that it gets so fucking dark before 5 PM.

AA people suggest not to make any promises like " i will never drink again ". They suggest just going day to day and doing your best 24 hours at a time. I find thats better than holding oneself to this lifetime deal.

You may drnk again, you may not, but just keep trying! Never give up and you will be OK.

Thanks man. I'll admit, I went to AA and I just didn't like it, it just felt like it was too much of a cult to me, but I do like that philosophy of taking it one day at a time.

We may slip up from time to time, but no need to beat ourselves up if we break our sobriety. We just need to be self-aware of what is going on, and not fall back into drinking. I've felt pretty good lately though. I'm still depressed, but I'm at least learning to deal with my depression without self medicating. It kind of helps that I'm on bupropion, and drinking on that shit kind of fucks me up, so even if I slip up, I know I can't have too much or else I'll risk having seizures and even death. I swear that shit potentiates alcohol even more than benzos. I'm not a light weight, but I felt a bit of a buzz just drinking that Guinness a couple of weeks ago. Shit, I even bought some kombucha which had less that .5% ABV and I swear I got a slight buzz from drinking 2 of those suckers.

I love you all, remember that.

I'm at 1.75L/week, whisky. I'm hovering between buzzed and drunk from basically 7pm to midnight every night, for roughly the past couple years, only missing a couple days at a time. I was worried about going home for the holidays, but I actually made it a bit over 3 days without any alcohol or physical symptoms. I was just really looking forward to a drink when I got home. No shakes, not really irritable (tried to keep tabs on myself).

Am I just lucky enough to be able to go cold turkey, or am I not actually drinking enough to form a physiological dependence?

Start getting up at dawn and go outside in direct light for an hour a day.

I get up pretty early, but it's been pretty cold here lately. I should just man up and go for a walk or something though.

That’s like five airplane bottles a day, pretty manageable. Still not a good habit to have though.

Preferably around noon for maximum exposure.

And walks make you feel great afterwards, almost like you’ve earned your drink.

accidentally spent $10 on a bottle of wine I thought was $4, too embarrassed to take it back, tastes like a 4 dollar bottle.

I'm a little behind (and over) schedule, but I didn't get the shakes from the time I woke up to the time I got off work to have a drink.

Getting there! I imagine the next couple days will be critical. Going to have to really watch for serious detox symptoms.

>blizzard coming
>city shuts down from 3 inches of snow
>We are going to get 10
RIP stock of alcohol.

I have a feeling having your last day on a Friday isnt going to be good frend

Mull it if its red.

Yeah it might be tough. I still don't really have an activity to keep myself occupied yet.

Any suggestions?

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3710499
Oh ok so during alcohol consumption, that's when I'd take it and I'd feel worlds better the next day.

Go have a nice dinner with your parents, if they are nearby.

Ehh, I'll pass on the drink. But yeah, I'll go do that. I'm going to try to go outside and shoot some hoops too.

congrats. its good to see people doing it the right way.

i could've bought a fifth of evan williams for $10 with change and it would've lasted at least a day or two instead of a few hours, wine is stupid.

ugh withdrawals are hell, could barely sleep last night and was an anxious wreck the entire day. No beer tonight but i'm shitting like crazy and i'm not sure if it's the last of the wd or the bob evans i wolfed down.

I just woke up thinking it was 6 a.m.

Jesus sounds like an alcoholic's best friend with the whole turning water into wine thing.

get shit done until 6 am

Not happening. WD's will eliminate me.

WD sleep, even when minor is fucking so bad. I woke up every like 45 minutes, sometimes just freaking the fuck out in near full panic other times just gasping

then have a couple shots, just enough to keep them at bay, and then get shit done

Do you ever wonder if jesus fantasized about becoming jesus when he was a kid, like how other kids would pretend to be pro football players jesus would sit there and go Aaaand the crowd goes wild for jesus, another touchdown for the son of god

little beer would help the withdrawals go smoother

It is the worst to be honest, the broken sleep doesn't even give your body time to heal or feel better. The thumping in your chest and nausea are crazy.
Just drink 1-2 beers and try to ride it out.
They may help some.

that was after a few, the taper helped initially but quickly faded. I think I'll get some okay sleep tonight, but as i posted in that other post, bob evans gave me fucking terrible diarhea

hahaha did the exact same thing a few weeks ago
the trick is not to buy wine unless you know its absolute dirt cheap

>actually typing this shit out

why

>why

Because the first step to recovery is constructiveness.

or just drink less for a few days

Now that’s pro tapering

Good idea.

And if you’re sober that’s even better of course.

Not having a set number of drinks will make you start sneaking in extras if you’re a drunk.

the temptation to drink more is always there regardless if you type a schedule or not
you can also just remember "drink less than yesterday"
once you get below a shitton of drinks per day it doesnt make much of a shit if you have 3 or 4 drinks anyway

Think I've done three or four days in the past. Almost up to two days right now. Gf welcomed me home with a can and I was able to turn it down easily. Felt pretty good.

did all you niggers die

ready to. 12th drink of the night. not more than fairly buzzed. shit's getting expensive

Just busy relapsing , i'll keep you posted.

Its evening day 4 of 2018 down here and I've managed to stay sober but I'm aching for a drink real fucking bad tonight. How do I stay strong? I wanted to last a week at least

Just got back from the store.

>two nights ago after withdrawals
>haha just one more night and I'll stop
Kill me.

17 days now. Thats the longest in 9 years. Before its been 1-4 days then i slip. Really badly.

>just drink less lol
having a concise schedule to abide by/measure actual against helps a lot of people trying to taper. maybe it doesn't help you, or maybe it does.

>once you get below a shitton of drinks per day it doesnt make much of a shit if you have 3 or 4 drinks anyway
it does if you allow the number to creep back up. again, having a schedule to stick to is a check on that, and helps you monitor rebound drinking

eat. your body wants alcohol, but it also just wants calories and to feel full. splurge on delivery or whatever if you don't feel like cooking or don't have the ingredients at home already. try having a flavored beverage you enjoy that isn't alcoholic, too, like juice or soda.

also, do something to occupy your brain. i like playing online blitz chess, going down wikipedia article rabbit holes, online window shopping, etc. if you have no ideas, you could try something like stumbleupon.

Fug im scared going back to work, 99% sure i will reward myself after one day of shit wagie cuck slave work, just some vodka pls

>read that the only way you can survive alc withdrawl/detox is with the help of benzo
>addicted to benzo as well

Time to kys?

Today is ‘fat cat Thursday’ in the uk, wherein we try to tackle the economic disparity betwixt the people and the lizards, by way of spreading the word that high earners have as of today, jan 4th, earned more than the average wagecuck will all year, and people feel pissed off about it for ten minutes, publish a post much like this one, then forget about it because they’ve no idea what should be the first step to tackling the horrendous unfairness, before going back to eating gruel and burning their offspring for warmth.
bbc.co.uk/news/business-42559224
So join me brothers and sisters, let us together be moderately irritated for a few minutes, pointlessly shitpost our pseudo-understanding of the problem then forget about it and continue sucking off old men in exchange for tendies and rent. Together we can make fuck all difference and give the rich more unnecessary reassurance that we are indeed their cattle.
Gentlemen, TO ARMS!
K I’m bored now. I’ve told you lot, done my bit, someone here will presumably inspire the revolution as a result of my post.
*chug*

Why dont poor people simply get weapons and start killing rich people? Its 99% against 1%. Kill them all.

Dunno where they live or who they are, and more importantly we don’t witness the luxury on which we’ missing out. If people were to see their daughters flocking to mansions to rim your boss just to survive, there would be riots on the streets. It’s not out in the open so nothing happens. How many have you killed? Who would you kill first if you did take action? How would you even find them?

Im thinking he would be more of a water-polo guy, you know, all deez niggaz have to swim and I can just walk on over here for the ball.

>Why dont poor people simply get weapons and start killing rich people?

>see this
>think during: holy fuck if this dude can make it anyone can
>he dies in recovery

What the fuck

What's the name of the docu? Google only told me that he is cool and I can't find filename on youtube.

>What the fuck
he literally died of withdrawals, a heart attack iirc. poor guy

youtube.com/watch?v=CrTlI6seM0A
e-enjoy, user

Search ryan alcoholic, im on mobile n too lazy to find link. Ive never seen someone with a worse addiction, shit was rough

3 pints is pro-tier. About 400ml ethanol/day, 40 UK units, 1.42L of vodka. There are people here on the same though.

Could always use weed like I did to get off alcohol. I barely remember 2016 and missed half of 2017, but I don't drink or smoke any more and weed is easy as fuck to put down.

I didn't smoke the weed wither just purchased around $1200 worth of high quality THC oil and would eat it.

He died of respiratory arrest due to an overdose of benzo+opiates, iirc.
He obviously needed a large dose of benzo, equivalent to his daily consumption of alcohol. We know they don't mix well with alcohol, but it's also true of opiates : it "relax" the body so much it stops breathing (like dying of old age, at least he went in peace.)
He was given opiates to reduce pain, can't remember if it was due to his digestive system being fucked or some random back pain. (Medical marijuana may be a solution to replace opiates in similar cases.) Withdrawals are usually not painful.

The clinic was closed as it wasn't the first death for similar reason, the doc has had his licence revoked.

>cannabising
But then he’ll get reefer madness and the entire human race will go extinct. Much safer to just drink the flammable poisons booze corporations sell

>He died of respiratory arrest due to an overdose of benzo+opiates, iirc.
even more depressing

Well that was sad

45 min till the liquor store opens and I can get rid of the shakes

I want off this ride but theres no. Brakes on the booze cruise