Can someone explain to me the concept of Emotional Labour?

>Can someone explain to me the concept of Emotional Labour? What the fuck is it?
Listening to people complaining.
>Are there any books (critical theory etc) on the subject?
Books on how to be a psychotherapist.

There's an episode of High Maintenance about people like that. HBO (not Vimeo) S1E5, 'Selfie'.

It should be.

Labour is something that adds value to a raw material, good or service by way of the time or skill invested in it.

Feeling some way about something does not do this thus is not "labour" in a true sense.

Not everything that is taxing to do is labour.

I don't have the archive or the paste bin

mindbodygreen.com/0-17693/18-ways-to-strengthen-your-intuition.html

but thats pretty much what she means in a nutshell.

its those feelings inside your gut based off of emotion that tugs you to do something.
seeing an old lady crossing the street by herself, or seeing a woman with groceries drop something.

also this

mindtools.com/CommSkll/ActiveListening.htm

>hire asshole waiter
>value of eating at your restaurant decreases

That's true though. People will put up with an asshole waiter at a Chinese restaurant where a meal is $10 but not a fancy restaurant where a meal is $80. If an asshole waiter stops people wanting to eat there, demand will fall and so the price people are willing to pay will decrease.

why are you on twitter reading this nonsense in the first place? go for a fucking walk or somthing.

something*

All a waiter has to do is be polite, reasonably attentive, and not fuck up the order. That in itself is not exactly the laborious part of the job, is it? It's probably just as tedious and exhausting to be a shitty waiter as it is to be an okay one.

To be honest overly friendly waiters/waitresses make me uncomfortable because I know they secretly hate my guts and just want their tip.

Walking is for cucks, real men obsessively follow some random nobody's twitter page and post caps of it on a Maori Haka Pineapple Hut.

hahahaha but fuck me to hell this is who this thread is about:
youtube.com/watch?v=8SZ3hJOgV9E

I don't need to accommodate your feelings because I unpack boxes all day. There will come a day where YOU accommodate MY feelings on the day of glorious retribution

She has a tongue ring. Only girls have tongue rings, not women. It is so easy to get rid of a tongue ring and she can't even be bothered to do that much, even when she is making a video promoting her book. Instead she demands that people take her seriously with it in still. No thanks.

She does it for free.

Couldn't you fucking google it, there's a wikipedia page on it. It's not some neo-marxist conspiracy theory or whatever the fuck you think it means, although I'm sure some absolute legend has already twisted it to mean as much in this thread, which I'm not going to bother reading.

drive.google.com/file/d/0B0UUYL6kaNeBTDBRbkJkeUtabEk/view?pref=2&pli=1

this is the PDF of the thread that, to my knowledge, caused the phrase to be used and explains what "emotional labor" is

tl;dr of the PDF: emotional labor is essentially noting the emotions, needs, etc of others and doing things to acknowledge/better that as well as maintain relationships for others.

some examples of emotional labor: sending a birthday card to your great grandma, giving a sick co-worker a "get well" gift, noticing when a friend is sad and attempting to "make it better", going to your child's soccer game, taking the time to understand others' thoughts, feelings

what the PDF claims is that men don't do these things nearly as often as women, oftentimes leading to suffering for both men and the women they find themselves in relationships with

it doesn't claim that emotional labor is a bad thing to do, it claims it's something that men often don't do and that women have to make up for by taking on certain responsibilities men should take out (like a woman sending birthday cards on her husband's behalf so he doesn't lose touch with his family)

>which I'm not going to bother reading.
lol at how triggered you are. you take this shit way too seriously.

Triggered? No.
Lazy? Sure.

Yes, brother. Point me towards the dorito-stained page of The Game you copyied this from so I can meditate on it during my NoFap ball torture session.

Women should go on emotional labor strike and see if men miss any of these things they supposedly do supposedly on our behalf.

>LEARN IT.

My ex used to make me lunch and she used to make hearts and smiley faces with mustard on the sandwiches. It pissed me off because the mustard spread wasn't even but I never said anything. In hindsight the ideal spread of mustard on a sandwich is a stupid thing to care about.

crafting a sandwich based on emotional feelings vs practicality is hardly a stupid thing to care about.

if she truly 'hearted/smilyfaced' you, she would have made you a proper fucking sandwich.

I've never read that meme book and I value female literature and thought. But that doesn't mean that I need to become a dickless placating sycophant and disregard female bullshit that I see in real life. It's very telling that your mind instantly went to the topic of ball torture, you fuckin eunuch.

She probably wouldn't have given me chlamydia 5 years in the relationship either.

lol I bet you ate her out hours after chad ran through that

being an eunuch is the most Veeky Forums lifestyle desu

You sound like you've never worked as a waiter, or in any job that requires feigning positivity towards customers.

Reminder that a good work of literature is so much more effective at helping you with your mental health than any pop psychology bullshit instruction manual can tell you.

They weren't Chads. I knew a lot of the guys. They're just normies. I cheated on her a few times with a cool girl that read good books and drew qt monster stories for kids.

Caring for someone is seen as labour. It's a phrase spoken in a society wherein individuals are quickly losing all practical reasons to care about one another. The Church, the family, marriage, nationhood, heritage... not what they once were. The bonds are breaking down, and people like Beth are unfulfilled by the act of caring.

It's a pretty disturbing phrase, desu. Thank god not too many people use it. I might just be melodramatic; society has always had its self-absorbed assholes.

Once again, a term used to describe the plight of actual workers is co-opted by identity politics.

Interesting comment.

It suggests the enemies of what is referred to as "advanced / late-stage capitalism" are actually fighting back against it by employing its own corrosive ideology.

Prostitution is now Sex Work

Love for family and husband is now Emotional Labour

Taking time out to raise a family is now discussed only in terms of the Wage Gap it contributes to

It's as if these people, consciously or otherwise, think that fighting this battle on the terms presented by the enemy is somehow going to end well.

Twitter is so bad. It's like the worst of Gen X and Millennials. I'm so glad that nobody my age goes there. 140 character BS

This. When's the last time you met a Razumikhin?

We need to start coming up with "PC terms" for antiquated abstactions like these.

As a Calvinist and right-libertarian I actually enjoy a broad application of the term "labour". Good economists will talk about things like "psychic income" and "natural assets", recognising the fact that economics isn't about government policy, it's people's lives. The distinction between agricultural labour and household labour is mostly arbitrary. They're both things that people do to bring value to others. I don't see housewives as unemployed women kept out of the workforce. A mother's job is to raise children and give them the mental and emotional nutrition that they need. That's a job, and it's important.
youtube.com/watch?v=qQBPo5IxCIs

You're brain dead zombie. Keep sleepwalking your way through life buddy.

Originally 'emotional labour' was meant to refer to an aspect of jobs like waitressing where the worker is expected to engage emotionally with customers as part of the job. It's been appropriated to mean any time when anyone has to be emotionally invested in anyone else, even their actual friends or family members. idk man

This describes a woman I know perfectly. The sad thing is that she's actually a good person and very artistically talented. She's wasting her life trying to become some sort of edgy e-celeb on twitter and youtube.

>AskMen

There is no such thing as "emotional labor." It's called being a decent human being. These feminists are so intellectually and morally bankrupt that they'd like us to believe that for women caring about your friends and love ones actually qualifies as "labor." Some have gone so far as to believe that women deserve financial compensation. It's just fucking sick....

Lol yes it is

Basically anything writing or reporting is minimum or less unless you are massivly popular

I rummaged through a mierdafilter thread about the topic and there were several comments bemoaning that if women did that then men would experience little to no change, but women would be much worse off. No idea how they themselves refuted their own premise but kept going...

RIP

Wow project much?

I guess it's part of the larger topic of gender, personhood, and society itself being evil and fake. Antithetic to any notion of "human nature", worth less than the sum of its parts, cyclically entropic for no purpose other than maintenance of the entropic cycle.

Exactly. It says a lot about these people that they think that not being a cunt is something that requires effort.

He's performing the job wrong incorrectly, though.

A third of men are sociopaths, probably the types she likes too.

the emotional theory of labor dowsed the source of the gender pay gap, bigot
get educated

It is easier to not give a fuck about people than to care. To care for people and their problems takes effort.
Sort of like labor, except instead of physically extensive it's mentally taxing; emotionally laboring.

You could almost say it's... go fuck yourself.

Is she telling us to stop being autists? If so she's right and I'm trying.

>a lot of the guys

Jesus how many were there? pathetic

It's even sadder for the woman because they can't have non-retarded children or loving marriages past 35 if they haven't before.

Plenty. She was a proper whore. She had severe daddy issues and when he died she got even more slutty. She ended up breaking up with me for being emotionally abusive.

Did't know about this, just got strongly compelled to not even click it by reading the page title.
It's certainly something done by gays and women.

> anglo twitter

are anglos even human?

Why did you date her in that case?
Sounds like you should have hit it then quit it like the rest

Is that a boy he's with?

I was pretty burnt out and wanted to continue to emotionally abuse her. Also we bought a dog together years before and I knew exactly how often I'd see him when we broke up.

yeah it's jaden smith

i think he's talking about the trap

Did you just start a sentence with "as a'insert political allignment here '"? Lol

>$80
>fancy
What

A 'more expensive than usual' casual sit-down place is about $80 per person.
I went to a sushi place in Germany that ended up being $80 per person for a buffet and drinks.

Women are disgusting, girls are better. That 'girl' is actually a regular old hag, like the women you're whipped by.

For the most part there wouldn't be a huge difference between a shitty waiter and an okay waiter, because most people are like you and see their waiter as a machine that turns words into food in exchange for money, but edge cases are where it becomes noticeable and edge cases are bound to occur at that kind of job.

Consider a situation where an asshole customer expects service beyond what the asshole cook is willing to give. A robot waiter who is programmed to be polite, reasonably attentive, and not fuck up the order is not going to have a solution for diffusing this situation. A waiter who is capable of emotional labor might be able to find a compromise, if not a solution to this conflict, or at the very least they will at least be able to minimize the collateral damage stemming from it (things like a 0 star Yelp review, other customers being bothered by someone making a scene and deciding not to return to that restaurant, the chef quitting)

On the other extreme, a waiter who provides an especially positive emotional experience to a customer could encourage that customer to choose that restaurant over a restaurant with waiters who are simply polite, attentive, and competent. Restaurants usually accomplish this by hiring attractive waiters and letting the halo effect take care of rest, but genuine cases exist as well.

I still love you. You're going to make it user!

emotional labor is what women call pretending to care/know/live by about the truth, and not succumb to the black hole of her own selfish first world insatiations

Both your interpretations of "emotional labour" are interesting af. What strikes me in OPs pic is this contradiction : "performing basic emotional labour" implies embedding emotions into a rationalized, troubleshooting oriented cognitive structure, a "job". However the intended message is aimed at men's supposed incapacity to communicate outside of this rational realm, which is implicitly presented as beeing opposed to the emotional world. This tweet is structured by cliché gender roles and a conceptual dichotomy which it contradicts at the same time.
maybe i'm not using the right words for it, but there is sth unintentionnaly glitchy and therefore interesting in it.

The real contradiction is that her phrasing doesn't exhibit any emotional labor on her part.

just imagining her writing this and thinking it's "cool" is so fucking pathetic
humans are so fucking lame

Emotional labour was a decent concept when applied to service work. Now its become a meme for feminists.

It would appear to me that fetishism of commoditties has reached a new level of exhausting the values of even abstract relations among people, so that such relations can be optimized into simple work/reward ones. Whereas you can turn any tangible thing into money and vice-versa, it turns out modern social justice is doing the devil's work of turning every intangible thing into effort/care coins of currency. Just as intangible, but now tradeable!

I will trade you intercourse for a massage, and a day's worth of income for a day's worth of childcare and dinner m'lady.

BUT IF YOU ASK ME TO WASH THE DISHES I BETTER BE GETTING A FUCKING BLOW JOB IN RETURN!

CUTE

emotional labour is a phrase that makes me irrationally angry, i can see people talk about really stupid shit like white privilege or microaggressions and shrug it off but the fact that women have came up with a term to describe a social interaction that is emotionally draining and never thought to apply it to themselves just exemplify what is wrong with them as a species

for most men in most situations talking to women is emotional labour, women are so insanely narcissistic that this thought has literally never occurred them, the woman in the tweet is 1/2 of a social interaction that is breaking down and it doesn't occur to her that maybe she's 1/2 responsible for that breakdown

>society has always had its self-absorbed assholes

Odysseus stands out in Homer because he's the only one capable of emotional labor. The Bible is filled with examples of people acting out of self interest even if it conflicts with the interests of their families/community.

Just shrug it off

i can't dude it's so fucking dumb, it's starting them right in the face

it's like when people on the left went all in on identity politics and it never occurred to them that whites would do it too, it's so impossibly obvious yet it eluded all of them till it was too late because they just don't think

It can't be learned. The language portion of the female brain is physically larger. Men struggle socially because we're not built to be as social

Most feminism I see these days is 50% relieving women of the consequences of negative behaviour/decisions and 50% holding women in high esteem for performing basic, expected social etiquette.

>Looking after the emotional well being of all adults and kids in a household is expected social etiquette.

If you wanna talk about enequal responsibilities, men have a larger share of the tax burden, die sooner, experience more violence, and don't have the option of being housewives. The responsibilities of childrearing is one that a woman can easily avoid, while the "work or die" responsibilities of a man are completely unavoidable.

That didn't address that poster's point at all. If staff befriend and cater the meal more easily to your preferences the meal gains more value than a meal that is superior in other aspects. It's another layer of the presentation of the object in question

How is the work or die not applicable to women too? Either work to feed yourself and your family by earning income, OR work as childcarer and cleaner in return for shelter. No one is off the hook unless they go batshit crazy and live off the welfare system.

In most of the world marrying a man and living off his income by becoming a housewife is an option a significant portion of women have. Almost no man has that option.

How many feminists would be okay with lowering the retirement age for men given that we die 10-7 years sooner?

>muh emotions are important durr

This is why you shouldn't take women seriously ever