Is there a single writer harder to understand?

Is there a single writer harder to understand?

Lacan.

>Single

I'll give you this double whammy

>Philosophers

nah, the are necessarily easier (or hacks)

Lacan isn't a philosopher though.

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Riós

Man, I fucking hate Guattari's style.

Uhh, Socrates?

>.>

Kant.
You simply can't understand wtf the dude is talking.
>people who say Hegel need to GTFO

Sorry, Kant is miles easier than Ashbery.

I think Ashbery's problem is not even he knows what he's talking about, so his poetry is line after line of beautiful, meaningless gobbledy-gook - but, man, is it pretty.

Not only is it pretty, but it has heft. So far as 'meaning' is concerned it's hit or miss, perhaps depending on 'where you are' not only in your power as a reader, but in your life. Anyone interested in giving him a chance should begin with his selected LATER works, Notes from the Air. I found myself unable to stop reading them whether I understood them or not (over an xmas holiday at my folks'). Then go back and check out some of the earlier stuff like the frankly mad Tennis Court Oath or the utterly fantastic Double Dream of Spring.

I just got a copy of pic related. I've been reading it from the beginning.

Self-Portrait in a Convex Mirror was easily understood, but basically everything else of his has been difficult.

I generally prefer to read authors chonologically - to get a sense for how they developed; in Ashbery's case, however, I may take your advice.

Fuck you

Heidegger

mein negger; and zizek

Fenimore Cooper.

Why are you upset?

Dawg, I've been thinking bout reading him for a while. Is he really difficult? How?

I cannot visualize Heidegger other than sitting on the bench outside his Black Forest house, alongside his wife, who all her life totally dominated him and who knitted all his socks and crocheted all his caps and baked all his bread and wove all his bedlinen and who even cobbled up his sandals for him. Heidegger was a kitschy brain….. a feeble thinker from the Alpine foothills, as I believe, and just about right for the German philosophical hot-pot. For decades they ravenously spooned up that man Heidegger, more than anybody else, and overloaded their stomachs with his stuff. Heidegger had a common face, not a spiritual one, he was through and through an unspiritual person, devoid of all fantasy, devoid of all sensibility, a genuine German philosophical ruminant, a ceaselessly gravid German philosophical cow, which grazed upon German philosophy and thereupon for decades let its smart little cow-pats drop on it….

Heidegger is the petit-bourgeois of German philosophy, the man who has placed on German philosophy his kitschy nightcaps, that kitschy black night-cap which Heidegger always wore, on all occasions. Heidegger is the carpet-slipper and night-cap philosopher of the Germans, nothing else.

mainly due to his style being intensely boring and overly purple.
I find Melville far easier due to be engaging.
If you mean difficult as in opaque, like circuitous philosopherspeak, then I would say Deleuze.
I spent a couple hours reading Difference and Repetition in the doctor's office, waiting, a few months ago, had a headache for two days after.
And I can take some good circuitous bullshit, like Frank Ruda or some others, but damn son, this guy is OPAQUE as fuck

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>feel like I understand it while reading
>try to rephrase it in my own words
>can't even start

Really? Do you have the right traductions? I read him in spanish, but he's not that difficult imo, I can't understand a word from Hegel though.

Well, it appears that all he is doing here is rehashing the speech act work of Austin and Searle and suchlike, and merely laying on the signature obfuscatory Continental patina. Not very interesting.