He hasn't taken the Deleuze Pill yet

>he hasn't taken the Deleuze Pill yet
nothing matters fuck life and fuck pain just let it all out and fuck shit up

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im white and proud

no you aren't

thed eluze pill moar like the dleuse penis xD

Who created Western civilization? Who invented the greatest things the world have ever seen, airplanes, skyscrapers, modern medicine, the nuclear bomb? Who went to the moon? White men like me

WE

my father was a member of autonomia operaia, which was somewhat influenced by deleuze, so he unironically did swallow the pill

>Who invented the greatest things the world
People far smarter than you are, who would have seen you as some sort of retarded subhuman.

>White men like me
They were white men, but they were not like you. I know that being a talentless hack suck, but people are usually better at hiding it. Work on your lack of self-esteem game.

You yourself have more in common with an Indian who has never heard of Europe than you have with the people who invented those things.

Mediterraneans who lived far before you did and who have nothing to do with you. Stop your LARP and stop basing your self worth and identity off of the achievements of others, it's embarrassing and misinformed identity politics.

WUZ

God, this was brutal.

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WUZ

Captcha: tribe extra

kek

Just read Land. He's better.

lmao

Fuckin rekt

>anti-black pride meme being used to bring down white supremacists

Beautiful ideology in action

we began as brown people around Ethiopia and thanks to globalization, we will all be brown again

as it should be

i look forward to the day when everyone is the same colour

>i look forward to the day when everyone is the same colour

Me too, white

Huh? All of the things listed were invented by Anglos/Krauts and some Frogs.

>They were white men, but they were not like you. I know that being a talentless hack suck, but people are usually better at hiding it. Work on your lack of self-esteem game.

I'm not that user or a WP memester, but you can't have it both ways. You can't say racist white men never made a contribution and denounce the contributions of famous great white men because of their racism.

E.g. Henry Ford, Joe Campbell, Oswald Spengler, Wittgenstein, all of the founding fathers, literally every philosopher during the Enlightenment, etc all the way back to Socrates day when African features were considered brutish.

It's not an anti-black pride meme. Egyptians largely were not black and the slaves brought to America were not from Egypt (or anywhere remotely close). We wuz kangs is a funny meme about afrocentric historical revisionists. I do like the we wuz vikangs meme too especially when used against white pride retards.

If you think civilization and modernity are merely the collection of industrial tools and technologies then you're far beyond saving.

And yet Greeks and Romans considered the Germans far more barbaric than the Persians, to the extent that Tacitus had to write a whole work attempting to defend Aryan barbarism. Pan-european "white" identity is a modern construction that has little precedent or cultural basis.

>You can't say racist white men never made a contribution and denounce the contributions of famous great white men because of their racism.
Where in his post did he make that claim? Rascism is not mentioned at all. The point is rather that by saying civilization was built by white men "like me" he's trying to claim kinship with those whose achievements are well beyond his own reach.

I like Manuel Delanda's book about Mille Plateaux. It taught me a lot of science words

>Pan-european "white" identity is a modern construction that has little precedent or cultural basis.

This is true. Citizens of the old Europe felt allegiance to their communities and countrymen, not some ethereal white solidarity. The constant wars across Europe prove that. But while your statement is true a pan-European white identity movement is rootless and new, its existence is not wholly without cause. What finally united all the warring, dirty white tribes of Europe? Foreigners. This gives me the sense that while reactionary it is not wholly without merit.

I have no stance on what happens in Europe, btw, and don't consider myself white. I'm fortunate enough to live in a place that is 95% homogeneous, largely without whites or blacks and their idiotic race/identity issues.

He didn't, dummy. I was responding to SJWs in general.

>>>reddit

>implying Europe is or has ever been united
>implying any sort of faux unification hasn't been out of pure economic need
Please

why did you quote his post if that's not what you're responding to?

lmfao btfo

I don't think skyscrapers, the nuclear bomb or going to the moon are great achievements

Medicine and aeroplanes I'll give you

Read the transaction again. user was speaking to some white power user, suggesting his Euro-centric racism made him less than other great men. I merely pointed out that many great men of European descent have had exactly the same racism. Racistanon may not be great like them, but that is not a symptom of his racist views as would suggest. Ergo I spoke generally.

Precisely. I never implied Europe was united. In fact I cited its centuries of warfare as evidence of no such thing as white solidarity before our time (say, 2000-present).

I am a fan of Fanon, btw. Are there similar philosophers of color in the western postmodern tradition? Shame if there isn't. His Pan-African, postcolonial view of identity is valuable, and desu proves Euro-centrism is not without merit.

can someone give me the gist of Deleuze to see if he's worth reading/interesting? Is it really what OP described

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_Deleuze

>Is it really what OP described
No. And just read Land instead. D&G are like Lacan, too enamored of ornamental obfuscation. They don't write to express, they write to confound. Read Anti-Oedipus or D&R if you like and find out for yourself.

Nietzsche and Philosophy
Any or all of his conference texts
Logic of Sense
Difference and Repetition
Capitalism and Schizophrenia I&II
Anything else that interests you. He writes about virtually everything, from language, to social and political issues surrounding France at the time.

Deleuze's work without Guattari should be put in another class, though, since it is pretty cogent. Difference and Repetition and his Nietzsche book are worth the read, for sure.

>just read Land instead

That's a name I always see. What's he about?

You were so quick to justify racism you ended up not understanding what he was saying. Fucking toxic

I would say he's a lot more impressionistic. He deals in the same subjects but his method is more expository and imaginative. He's also more current. Throwing Marxist philosophers from the May '68 era into the context of our information age, you've got to read more carefully and they don't say too much that is concrete anyhow. The post-war, pre-internet French thinkers are a lost generation of struggling mystics. Their criticism is valid, but specific to their time. Land is writing today, trying to see over our increasingly insane horizon.

Not to justify racism, just to call out hypocrisy.

D&G are meant to be read in the context of Foucault, Spinoza, Hegel, Nietzsche, and Lacan

If you aren't familiar with all them, then half of it is lost on you

I prefer Deleuze's solo stuff myself though

Then I admit half of it is lost on me. Marxist kids these days work office jobs, pay taxes and vote Democrat. Foucault, Lacan and their ilk forgot the face of their father Gorgias.

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he didn't say anything resembling what you were supposedly calling out, idiot

he's saying there's a 100% you're a worthless loser who uses the accomplishments of others to gird your own worthless anonymous online arguments to enlarge himself in the most worthless way possible
no one gives a shit about race except you, because that's the only thing that makes you feel like you're a part of something when you're not a part of anything other than your own miserable life
I mean correct me if I'm wrong, but it's very obvious to everyone here that race-baiters are fucking life losers, angry failures who are of no value to anyone
how is it that I'm able to guess that about you? how do I know so much about you when you haven't told me shit? that's what he's saying

>In Francis Bacon: The Logic of Sense, Deleuze argues that the painter does not stand before an empty canvas and figure out what to paint. He stands before a dense canvas, a canvas filled to the brim with received images, with clichés. The artist’s job, then, is to cut away, destroy, carve this density of images in order to make something new.

Stop arguing about race and post more Deleuze

>there's a 100% you're a worthless loser
>that's what he's saying

I understand too well, brainlet. And I'm saying such assumptions can make him (and you) look like a fool. There are countless intelligent, self-actualized people who have made contributions to society while holding racist views. How do you *know* that user isn't one of them?

Goddamn that is beautiful. I can't say he's right, because inspiration is sucked up to the waking mind through a straw. The canvas is not dense, the canvas is not full, man is. And realizing his art changes him as much as it does the viewer.

>What finally united all the warring, dirty white tribes of Europe? Foreigners.

No it was Christianity

>Christianity, not foreigners
>not both

Get a load of this guy.

>How do you *know* that user isn't one of them?
because he's on Veeky Forums, which means he came from /pol/, which means he's never read a book in his life and couldn't think himself out of a paper bag

and no. intelligent people don't give a shit about race, because it's never mattered a lick to anything except as a way to rally the dumb angry masses

>intelligent people don't give a shit about race

this is what these poor plebs all flustered over "race mixing" don't get, the rich people see everything in terms of class, not race, if two people are rich as fuck they can get over pretty much any "identity" difference in order to combine fortunes, it's only poor bastards who give a shit about their "identity" which is why identity politics is the most brilliant ploy by the american ruling class to congratulate itself on being "progressive" (or "traditional" on the flipside) while also keeping its lion size share of the economic surplus to itself

should someone tell him?

>race has never mattered
>muh class warfare

W E W. So this is the kind of textbooks they're printing out in California now huh. Race has always mattered, and pretending this isn't so to obtain a certain appearance or advance a Marxist ideology is dishonest and historically incorrect.

Tell the African slaves race never mattered. Tell the Jews race never mattered. Tell the Korean and Chinese victims of Japanese barbarism that race has never mattered.

Let's drop the subject, since Veeky Forums is really letting me down. Someone post some Deleuze.

you sound fucking braindead. you don't even read what you're responding to anymore do you? it must be like taking a shit for you basically whenever you post. like you just feel the stupid thoughts pouring out of you and you can't control it right? that must be liberating in a way.

someone someday is going to beat the shit out of you one day in real life not for anything you've said, but because you're a weak faggot who won't stand up for himself. what does your mother think of her weak little son? you're a fucking disgrace. walk in front of traffic if you're too much of a coward to jump, idiot.

>projecting this hard

Nice solid argument, spud.

wew this brainlet is fucking mad

hey cunt
read this again
when you bitch about the jews you're so fucking close, but too stupid to make that final step

It's fascinating to see your brainwashed, apetastic response. The whole race/racism/identity subthread here is actually pretty enlightening. OP's interpretation of Deleuze is largely inaccurate of course, but it inspired the reactionary response in .

How is this relevant? Well, Deleuze *was* a nihilistic Marxist... and he *did* kill himself. I think many dumbshits who would have fallen into Oi! and skinhead culture in the past are now coming into a less nihilistic worldview and embracing anachronistic traditionalism as a reaction against the capitalist commodification of the individual. Brutes who in the past would've been drinking brews and stompin' queeahs are reading Evola, Spengler, Land, and Peterson.

It's interesting times. I'm sure Deleuze would approve.

Can you imagine being so butthurt over being wrong about Stalinism while illiterate peasants were right that you actually created a whole philosophy denying objective reality just so you didn't had to admit it and lose your intellectual prestige?

Because that's what the French intelligentsia did in the 60s and 70s.

>embracing anachronistic traditionalism as a reaction against the capitalist commodification of the individual
more like embracing anachronistic traditionalism as a reaction to the ongoing dismantlement of cis white male privilege
it's obvious that white people want to keep minorities down

Can you imagine being so brainwashed that you wholeheartedly throw in with black blocs and Antifa in 2017, completely ignorant of the crimes committed by the anti-capitalist, anti-racist, feminist Symbionese Liberation Army in the 1970s? Crimes committed in the name of harmony, just like today. Literally nothing has changed. This is how the smarter pleb uses the tools of Marxism. Go ask Shaun King for an accounting of donations he received for BLM. Or Ayaan Hirsi Ali why the SPLC is calling her an Islamic extremist. Intellectual laziness, socially-enforced echo chambers, and personal interest will always steer the collective astray. Deleuze and the May '68 crowd are part and parcel responsible for today's post-truth world.

>it's obvious that white people want to keep minorities down

It's obvious, huh? Is that why the hundreds of thousands of white Yankees died freeing the slaves? And many more during the civil rights era in the 1960s? And affirmative action is the law of the land? And we had a black president? Because white people want to keep minorities down?

I know you're probably baiting but I'm also certain someone reading this thread actually thinks these things.

>stroll into my local leftist bookstore
>looking to pick up a copy of Theory de la Sujet
>grab the book and take it to the charming maiden at the register
>"Pardon me, milady...but could you ring me up? A shame I don't have your number or I'd ring you up instead..."
>she giggles and takes the book, blushing as her fingers brush mine due to my fingerless work gloves, which I wear because I am of the revolutionary class
>her eyes widen as she reads the book's title
>"Wow, I've never seen anyone buy this before! You must have special taste!"
>I smile and ready a witty response when suddenly a voice rings out from behind
>"Hahaha look at what this structuralist dinosaur is buying! That's not potato book! LARP somewhere else, tankie"
>I quickly turn around, my cloak billowing behind me, to discern the source of the rude outburst
>generic potato fascist caricature with a Dolce&Gabbana cap and "the guy that stole your girl by playing hot potato lascivisciously" turtleneck is standing there guffawing
>"Excuse me sir...you may disparage my person if you wish, but it is untoward to swear in front of a lady."
>"Fuck you, class-reductionist!"
>I smile quietly and tip my fedora low across my eyes, concealing them
>"As you wish..."
>I quickly swing my labour-calloused, proletarian fist into his kneecap before he can react
>he bellows idealinguistically and charges forward, impetuous as to how that also benefits capital
>I expertly sidestep him and the cashier screams as he crashes into the counter
>I draw my Marxist razor and mutter a quiet prayer to Zermelo-Frankel as I drive it deep into his back
>"...requiescat in pace..."
>As I clean my mathematical blade the girl walks out from behind the counter, twirling her hair with her fingers
>"So...maybe you'd like to come over to my place to play that game sometime...?
>"No thanks, milady, it's only single player. Besides..."
>I sheath my blade
>"You're not my type."
>skate away on my Heelys

>impetuous

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Kek'd. This pasta redeems this shitty thread.

>>>/reddit/

contributes to cuck porn on

At least I'm not a newfag that responds to bait.

No, you're the new fag. Read my comment again and appreciate its layers.

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>deleuze thread
>literally no discussion of deleuze

seems about right

>civil war was about slavery
The confederate general at the end hated slavery, the union General loved it and had shitloads lmao

>civil war
Sort of, but a tiny fragment of whites relative to all whites in the US were allies to the movement

>race based affirmative action
Just a dumb overreaction based on the current political zeitgeist, horseshoes and stuff. It's an exercise by free businesses, usually it doesn't come from legislation from the state, and the state is where the real power was

>black president
Who wasn't allowed to do anything because Congress were whiny babies. Their whining wasn't racially motivated, but to assume a black president implies blapipo enjoy the same opportunities as wypipo do is naive

read the state's individual declarations of war

you'll find most of them specifically place emphasis slavery as a main reason

civilwar.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

>Going to the moon isn't a great achievement

Are you retarded? That was a massive change in the course of history and scientific advancement which is still being used to this day.

And nucleur bombs maybe not, but splitting the atom was massive.

>tfw I can't tell if I'm retarded or this is just a bunch of words that don't really mean anything
Literature is suffering

it's p. clear bro, what's so confusing 'bout it

>tfw I don't know if I'm being trolled or not
Just end it

Deleuze would have viewed anachronistic traditionalism as deterritorializing to quickly and thus becoming violent schizo. Had he been alive today he would be an accelerationist cyberpunk.

also protip Land is not traditionalist at all, that is just a front, accelerationism has nothing to do with conservatism.

10/10
what was the original pasta?

>protip Land is not
I didn't mean to insinuate that he was. Just that his sort of fuck-it-we'll-do-it-live capitalism and meritocratic view towards ideas appeals to utilitarians, especially conservatives and far-right anxious for a sea change. (e.g. the moon man, race war, day of the rope crowd) I think he's one of the first breaths of fresh air and a sign of the final death of cruddy old Marxist-style socialism.

>Deleuze would have viewed
Exactly why it would have been so fascinating. It is the same peasant reaction against the cosmopolitan Marxists it has always been -- the self-interest that misleads the collective I mentioned before -- except now the peasants have AR-15s, internet, and the freedom to express themselves without fear of being shot. Deleuze, being an obscure intellectual, had a very minor role of course but our 2017 identity politics troubles, dissolution of gender, and questioning of literally everything is the fruit of seeds he helped plant.

Senpaitachi, is Sartre taken seriously in academia?