Book about Veeky Forums

It's really good. Nagle is legit.

what board does she browse, and if she browses this one, can she stop shilling this fucking book?

Not completely out of touch, but still out of touch.

Go to bed Angela

>look her up
>she's a local author
might rob her book if I see it on a shelf

rip the good ol days

Veeky Forums in general was rather liberal with an anarchist bent. It's why I came here in the first place.

Cuck

It's always been pretty independent. It never really had a political view

Yeah, do you remember when it changed? I think it was around gamer gate, right?

"Veeky Forums" isn't anything, people here just tend to be die hard contrarians, just because you came here along with the le crzy hax0r chanology faggots means nothing.

>Yeah, do you remember when it changed? I think it was around gamer gate, right?

More like around Project Chanology.

Guys
warosu.org/lit/thread/S5772954

-Veeky Forums stats 2014:
Average Age:
>21.6

Sex: (Seeing as every female that responded was harassed, I'm guessing they are under-reported)
>Male: 94%
>Female: 6%

Ethnicity:
>White: 82%
>Hispanic: 9%
>Asian: 4%
>Middle Eastern: 3%
>Black: 2%

Political Affiliation:
> Far Left: 31%
> Center Left: 33%
> Centrist/Unaligned: 16%
> Center Right: 12%
> Far Right: 8%

>"Veeky Forums" isn't anything
I thought we were an autonomous collective.

>all these cumskins
>all these leftists
It checks out.

>6% ""females""
>archives lost in the cuckening so no information on how this was all collected (probably straw polls)
really worthwhile

I found Plebo.

This is the thread where it was all collected.
warosu.org/lit/thread/S5770473#p5770473

>male
>female

Only two options?
Die cis scum!

hypersphere is the closest to that
i don't think it is an area that should be explored further.

I am a girl btw

I make a bait post in every one of those data mining threads, what sort of slack jawed down syndrome takes them seriously, let alone would consider them to be representative of anything.

If you have a penis, you aren't really a gril, user.

Its a fiminine one!

meh, I don't think there's really a better way to do it, honestly.

No one answered transgender.

I'm glad nothing has changed, their persistence is commendable.

It's a community based entirely on contrarianism. When Bush was in office the place was more left-leaning, when Obama got into office it became more right-leaning.

There's no way to do it and there never will be until mook turns this into a pay to browse site with IDs tied to IP on every board, never take data mining threads where anyone calls themselves a female, an anarcho-fascist, a MtF who likes Moby Dick, etc. from all the examples of lies on the internet in that thread.

Even if you account for 5-10% bait posts you can still derive some meaningful statistics.

t.eejit who tried to conduct the "research"

it'll never be representative from one thread anyway, only way you could get anything meaningful is to dox everyone currently browsing, round them all up in real life and do a proper head count

>I make a bait post in every one of those data mining threads

top kek I thought I was the only one

I make at least 2-3 shitposts in every single one

>even Veeky Forums is only 82% huwhite
>that many spics

disgusting, what kind of literature do you beaners even read? construction manuals and taco menus notwithstanding

>some cubans get a white pass

weak

Well, Trump is in the house now.

Is Veeky Forums gonna be globalist soon?

A lot of them already are.

>it'll never be representative from one thread anyway, only way you could get anything meaningful is to dox everyone currently browsing, round them all up in real life and shoot them

It doesn't develop from her new man of 4cgan article which was admittedly quite good and built the hype. The only aspect that built upon it that was interesting was about transgressive culture of desade and Bataille but again wasn't developed. It is obvious Nagle while tapping into a nerve of Chan culture remains an outsider and fundamentally at odds with it, she said herself she hates it and the posters. A good starting point honestly, I believe we will get a better critical analysis into Chan's in the future

So she hates freedom.
Women are basically ISIS.

>2017
>unironically using terms like liberal or conservative to describe Veeky Forums

>It is obvious Nagle while tapping into a nerve of Chan culture remains an outsider and fundamentally at odds with it
This. Also she misunderstands the function of anonymity, both on this site and in general. It is literally the most fundamental qualification of normies.

She hates irony and antihumour, she harbours a now antiquated belief in universal global class struggle and sees this place as unworthy of generating any value. Not that she's particularly wrong in regards to Chan's, she just fundamentally misunderstands its aura

lol wrong, isis tries to ruin civilizations, women do

>It is literally the most fundamental qualification of normies.
being a misunderstanding of the function of digital anonymity

This. Veeky Forums has pretty much been right wing libertarian since then.

I just want a place with a reasoned, balanced discourse. I'm so tired of radicalism and bias

you'll want to kill yourself then because you won't get that living in society and you also won't get that by retreating to solitude

It's good. Nagel has spent at least half a decade actually researching Veeky Forums, etc. She wrote her thesis about online communities. She's not somebody who just dipped in and drew conclusions wildly. She's definitely a leftist, but she's unafraid of pissing people on her side off, so she's fairly balanced. She's a good academic.

I would say we went from being left leaning to mostly apolitical/centerist as a backlash to how insuferable chanology was. The alt right bullshit only sprang up in the wake of GG and was compounded by stormfags and Trump supporters deciding this was a good place to hang out around the same time/taking our mock racism seriously.

But hey what do I know I've only been here over a decade why can't I leave

Iktf

I've read it.

It's basically a potted history of Veeky Forums since Gamergate by an observational outsider.

She does talk some theory but none of its very advanced.

>breaking rules 1 & 2
fucking NORMIES

Not good. She brings up a few old /b/ stories (Jessie Slaughter, for example), then takes a very surface-level look at r/thedonald and /pol/, and concludes that being edgy is bad because it prevents people from putting forth coherent political projects. There's also frequent implications that a political project can't be coherent unless it's milquetoast progressivism.

There's also an incredibly cringeworthy aside about Gamergate that goes nowhere, but furthers the overall narrative of the project (Veeky Forums is evil and scares women and minorities).

The book is also criminally short (less than 150 pages), meaning it has to overlook almost all the interesting stuff so it can introduce normies to basic shit like "what the fuck is a reddit?" and "memes? how do they work?"

Overall, it's slightly more accurate than the Hillary Pepe explainer, but suffers from the same fundamental problems.

>sicne gamergate
That's like, the least interesting period of our history.

That would be too fascist of a system.

I'm Half Spaniard but my mother was born in mexico. Even though it has nothing to do with anything, you underestimate spics.

The only reason she began researching Veeky Forums was investigating online mysoginistic spaces, she didn't come here to engage but to observe an ideological opposition. This obviously tampers her conclusions, she said herself she hates the culture and the community and should be avoided

Liberals used to be liberal. Twenty years ago it was liberals who opposed censorship, supported free speech and free thought. Then they got power and did nothing but fight to criminalize all non-leftist thought, speech, art, etc. You'd have to be a very closed minded person, highly lacking in self-awareness, to support contemporary leftism and claim to be a liberal.

>i have an abysmal reading comprehension

Kantbots review of it is good. thermidormag.com/angela-nagles-wild-ride/

This guy writes like a pseud

Is Hypersphere worth the read of does The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra pretty much cover it?

>half a decade

Holy shit! That's like five years!

challenge him to a debate and see who is a pseud

She's a newfag. Disregarded.

Spain might be okay but what about Argies? Why do they keep trying to take rightful Queen's clay?

Nah

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

>normies
>not normalfags
Instantly discarded

Hypersphere is definitely more topical? current? Like there's Trump-Posting and such, but Tundra is by far the better book as a whole.

>kill all normies
>reads book
>come to the conclusion that: she, herself is a normie
>she wants to kill herself

can't tell if very subtle bait

Debates are dumb as hell and turn into who can screech talking points down mic hardest. I don't understand why they're apparently the highest tier of discourse, instead of taking the time to make a cohesive counterargument to someone's points.

Thanks senpai

...

No

I like this review but it might be too alt-right boogeyman for Veeky Forums.
fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/2017/08/19/kill-all-normies-and-the-alt-rights-politics-of-transgression/
She makes some decent observations and comes half-way to actual understanding, but always falls short.

Veeky Forums, and all of Veeky Forums, really, still is very liberal. The site's main appeal is the virtually unfiltered freedom of expression.

Veeky Forums would improve dramatically if everyone who used it was shot desu

all of Veeky Forums is mostly just shitposters with a vague political association or leaning

Killing all Veeky Forums users would also cut down on NEETs, potential school shooters, and bronies/weebs thus improving society

Honestly we'll shitpost about anything if we know it will annoy people here. Remember when everyone was pretending to like ponies? Boy did that get out of hand. Come to think of it that's pretty much what happened with stormfags and Trump supporters.

I agree with this. When I was growing up, liberalism just meant opposing George W. and shitting on Bible-thumpers who wanted to take your video games. Today, the left is an odd couple made up of neocons and radical socialists while the right is split between neocons and libertarians (with a fascist fringe to be sure).
I think as the neocons die out, liberalism will come to mean Sanders-socialism and conservatism will mean Ron-Paul-libertarianism and cryptofascism. I feel like libertarianism has come to represent the best of both of yesterday's parties and fascism is definitely needed as a counterweight to radical socialism.

>Kshatriya – These are the faceless troll armies which had their cultural genesis on anonymous imageboards, where the art of the transgressive rightist meme was delivered to man by a brutal, Promethean, collective unconscious. They are the anime girls of Twitter who ask if a user is Jewish before unleashing their sun-blotting barrage of shitposts. If they give serious thought to anything, it is how to inflict more misery more efficiently upon their targets, something they pride themselves on to no end, and not without justification either. The meme warrior knows what his role is and executes it with unmatched finesse. Nagle actually captures their praxis rather well, writing “wherever you find even the lightest version of the online right… you will now also find a deluge of the worst racial slurs imaginable, vicious commentary about women and ethnic minorities, and fantasies of violence… Jewish conspiracies and dehumanizing invective against ‘rapefugees’ also follows”.
Bush was liberal. Read Dugin.

Liberalism has never been about freedom of expression.
Society is horribly evil

That's fucking Voltaire, not Descartes

I think what you mean is libertarian.

I wouldn't say that was the turning point at all. In 2008 Veeky Forums was still enchanted by Liberalism. There was a strong Ron Paul /b/ wing but they were a vocal minority, I think the federal reserve stuff and Obama seeing through the government bailing out the banks started getting the ball rolling. Another important aspect of this time - Desperate Virgins start reading stuff like "The Game" and becoming "Pick Up Artists", which end up being hyperconservative and misogynist. Liberal Comedians, no longer having Bush to make jokes about, suddenly became antifunny. The archnemesis of /v/, Jack Thompson, was finally slain by a disbarment, spelling an end to religious conservatives trying to take away peoples vidya. Veeky Forums really wasn't THAT political by this point.

By 2011 still nobody was going to jail over 2008, and Occupy Wall Street happened. Which started out as a fairly normal grassroots spontaneous protest with police agent provocateurs in the crowd. Then it got destroyed by a force much more powerful than the police, social justice warriors, which cucked the entire left into being about everything except economics and the parade turned into a hippie shitshow. This was symbolic of the lefts degeneration from being a united front who weren't going to vote against their economic interests to an identity politics shitshow. Some Spic presented as the worlds hardest criminal shoot some Nigger presented as an innocent honor student and it was blamed on White people for no reason. The Duke Lacrosse team got punished extrajudicially when they were innocent and Democrats started bizarrely becoming the party that is willing to forgo civil rights to punish criminals more effectively because muh rape. Gamersgate happened. A bunch of little things happened too, SJWs seemed to love putting themselves in front of cameras. Trump happened, and for some reason.

I would say it's accurate Gamersgate was the turning point, I really think people underestimate how libtarded Veeky Forums was for a long long time. /v/ was the first popular board to really flip conservative. /pol/ just had shitshow after shitshow driving its popularity and Trump made it fucking explode.

I liked the podcast, Angie u did the analysis of Veeky Forums nihilism very well xx

>Female author
>Writing about Veeky Forums

Not worth the paper its printed on.