Catholic Literature General

>not learning upon the mistakes of other people
>not heeding the advice of far more experience
>not recognizing the shear ubiquity of God
>not then realizing your own mortality and insignificance in the face of such inordinance
>not THEN realizing that despite being an insignificant nothing, God still loves you

>how to know an user isn't catholic

KJV hasn't been read by Catholics since....forever, basically. Because 99.9% of printed KJVs don't include the Apocrypha and thus cannot possibly be given an imprimatur. Douay-Rheims would be better.

Take the iron pill. Stave off iron deficiency.

Do you want to use the dictionary definition then? Then explain to me how Christianity leads to the mentality of being property.

As a Catholic, I really wish my kin would stop claiming to have proved God. It just makes us look stupid.

Oh fuck off

whats the most redpill demaistre shit thats available in english, i found burke kinda boring, but demaistre has potential for dankness

Why do Catholics pray to Mary when you're supposed to pray to Jesus?

because europeans have always worshipped the mother goddess since even before the aryans come into the continent

>turn the other cheek
>mercy
>be a sheep
>other general weakness
Have you even read the Bible? Also, read Nietzsche.

Don't forget the sacrilege of changing word, like actually replacing the words on the holy bible like switching "poisoner" for "witch".

Silly, user! Jesus was a good Jewish boy who always listened to his mama. Just because they're dead now, why should that've changed? They talk to Mama Mary, Mother of God so that she can help them by bending his ear and hop to helping them pronto.

I recommend Great Books of the Western World. The volumes personally owned: 3, 5, 10, 12, 16, 19. What's great about them are the multiple books in one, eg Vol 16 has St Augustine's Confessions, City of God, and On Christian Doctrine. Other recommendations:
The Quotable Chesterton, Ignatius Press
The Ignatius Bible, Ignatius Press
Catechism of the Catholic Church, USCCB
Summa Theologiae, Christian Classics
Readings in Ancient Greek Philosophy, Hackett
Reading the Greeks is important as reading Aquinas.

Because you can do both.

To be fair those are indeed proofs of God. Aquinas alone has done it.

>tfw no cute prudent Christian gf
Why are almost all Christian girls retarded, ugly or both?

You're funny. As if the church didn't fucking slaughter pagans into near-total extinction.
For that fact the atheists call Christianity too harsh, and for its moral principles you odinist LARPers call Christianity too weak. Could it possibly be that you, as well as the atheists, have a flawed view of the whole concept of Christianity.
The Catholic church is supersessionist anyway. Supersessionism means Christ literally destroyed judaism and as such the Community of Believers replaces the jews as the chosen people. Hence the pope refuses and will continue refusing to acknowledge israel as a nation-state. Because what Christ rejects, the west rejects, and what did Christ reject more than judaism. The church knows this, the pope knows this. Your cries of "kike worship" are infantile and banal and you only parrot what others tell you because you don't have the nerve to understand or make a serious study of religion. And you wanna come here and call me a slave? If this were 750AD my people would be slitting your throat.

What the fuck are you talking about? The Pope loves mohammedans and christkillers and doesn't miss any opportunity to say so. Oh and remember how the liturgy was changed to expunge anything that offended Jews at Vatican II? Catholics are delusional.

Is this a joke? The Pope's even promoted the dual Covenant view, he says Jews don't need to be converted.

>You're funny.
Thanks.

>As if the church didn't fucking slaughter pagans into near-total extinction.
I don't deny it did, within Europe. It had the political upper hand. They would have to have been fucking idiots not to.

>odinist LARPers
Oh, so Odinism automatically equates to LARPing now. Get over yourself. As much as there may be LARPing going on from muh pagans there's just as much, if not more, with deus vulters and cafeteria Catholics.

>If this were 750AD my people would be slitting your throat.
And there would be throat slitting right back, I can assure you.

This. Also, pic related.

Anyone got the epub? Please buy it and share. I purchased Scholastic Metaphysics and By Man Shall his Blood be Shed so it's okay to pirate now.
It's a dogma for Catholics to see God as a truth of natural reason and provable.
"1785 [ The fact of positive supernatural revelation] .The same Holy Mother Church holds and teaches thatGod, the beginning and end of all things, can be known with certitude by the natural light of human reason from created things; "for the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made" [ Rom 1:20]; nevertheless, it has pleased His wisdom and goodness to reveal Himself and the eternal decrees of His will to the human race in another and supernatural way, as the Apostle says: "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all, in these days hath spoken to us by His Son" [ Heb.1:1 f; can. 1]. "
You are professing borderline heresy.
It would also be heresy.
"714 It firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart "into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels" [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church. "

>christianity begets weak servile men
>christians conquered the entire world barring china, japan, and iran
pick one

Christ is the lamb and the lion the asinine reductions in his character don't do anyone favors

>tfw you are in the honours program at a conservative Catholic university and almost all the other honours students are smart qt Christian girls

Not gonna lie, it feels pretty good

go to polish services. or asian ones if you're into that, but some of them do longer services. polish might be slightly longer than the english, but lots of silent wife material.

Or just FSSP/SSPX/IOCK

>christianity serves the jews
>christians welcome mudslimes
pick two

Christ was a weakling. One man amongst many Middle-Eastern "prophets". Take the iron pill.

Why is it that protestant countries are the most cucked then and pagans are literally nonexistent?

Some Protestant denominations have succumbed to materialism. Catholic dogma makes it outwardly more difficult to do so. Pagans, while small in number in Europe at present, are not nonexistent.

How do any of those things make you a slave?

>Anyone got the epub? Please buy it and share. I purchased Scholastic Metaphysics and By Man Shall his Blood be Shed so it's okay to pirate now.

I don't think its been released as an e-book yet

If you subscribe to an erratic, unsystematic philosophy of a failure that's filled with both bile and nonsense it does.
Pretty sure it has, saw it on his blog because it was sold out before release.

>Refers to it as a slave morality
>Proceeds to tell user to read a dictionary to learn the definition of a word, rather than to explain his own personal definition and view of the word 'slave'
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>read Nietzsche.
That's some smol brain shit not even memeing that dude was the biggest idiot of his time, I would say of all time but seeing as you're right here before my very eyes that wouldn't be fair. How about you read kierkegaard instead? Or the summa? The latter makes nietzsche look like your average /r/atheism poster.

First off, you're going to have to prove that to me. If you're talking about the three lines in the mass about lifting the veil of darkness from the eyes of the jews etc then I don't see the big deal, also it was allowed by benedict for those who requested to do it.
Secondly, and more broadly, we don't need to be openly anti-semite. It's part of nostra aetate: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostra_aetate
You see the church has taken great efforts to spell out the relationship between the church and the jews formally using informed judgement and reason. We don't do kneejerk reactions like you do. If anything that would hurt the reputation of the church. The church hates judaism, not jews plural.

>The Pope's even promoted the dual Covenant view
No I don't think he has, JPII said that the "Old Covenant" was not "revoked" but he never wrote a bull on it or anything. It was just ecumenism and trying to soften the rather harsh anti-jew aspects of the church which, up until the holocaust had not caused a problem but which in the post-war world were causing the church to be associated with nazis.
The dual-covenant view is simply not doctrine, supersessionism is.

>tfw the few girls in my church that are my age are beautiful, but retarded

>tfw no catholic gf

catholicism moar like gaytholicism xD

bump

Yup, Nostra Aetate fucked up Catholic continuity of at least practice real bad. They removed tee adjectives that were well deserved from prayers for the conversions of Jews. The Nazi Germany that had nothing to do with Catholicism shaped the most problematic event since the Reformation.

>materialism is empty and unsatisfying
>not raised religious, so all belief systems seem foreign and incomprehensible

Other than explicitly religious works, what makes a book catholic?

Explicitly Catholic themes.

To have one's being be in obligation to others

That doesn't work because then everybody is a slave. Parents have obligations to their children and children have obligations to their parents but they can't both be slaves.

>He thinks mercy is a weakness

Read Kierkegaard or John Howard Yoder

>devoting yourself to a god instead of becoming one

...

Pretty good actually

>can't into greatest philosopher of the 19th C, excluding idealists
>recommends memegaard
Aquinas was of great importance as a philosopher, though.

>thinks mercy isn't weakness
>doesn't know or has forgotten about julius caesar
>memegaard again
>also some guy who when searched for turns up with sexual abuse

having mercy explicitly means having power

You take that back.

>Why are almost all Christian girls retarded, ugly or both?

haven't heard a bigger nonsense in my entire life

pretty weak bait actually

>le popeus est deus hehe Catholics destroyed

how is it bait you up tight sperg its just a meme, its taking the piss

she's probably retarded

>tfw no retard gf

she's probably not tho

There's this one really cute girl at the TLM here, literally the only woman there that's not taken, but I'm too autistic to initiate contact feels bad man.

>catholicism general
>devolves into >tfw no gf sperging

Because us Catholics want quality Catholic gfs that are not easy to find given our autism.
Much more comfy that Orthodox shills vs Catholic trads.

Explicit, or strog ties to the themes, mindset and faith of the Catholic Church.
For the mindset to cure materialism just start reading 20th and 21st century thomism, it's written for the modern man with a pre modern mindset.

Reminder for all you cucks to tend First Friday!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Friday_Devotion

>tfw no matter what state in my life I end up dying in, I die with the sacraments anyway because the lord promises me so - no exceptions.

Love you Catholic posters. Wish I could be drawn to faith honestly.

I recently bought a commented bible edition.
Now my question: In what order should i read it? Some people on Veeky Forums told me that one should read the new testament first, and then read the old testament through the lense of the new one. Or should i read the bible chronologically?

You have to take the first step friend. If you open your heart to God you will be surprised how easily belief will come.

Chronology is good.
Go to Tridentine mass.

Sorry to be chiming in on a Christian thread as a complete religious pleb, but is there a proper Catholic Bible that employs language that is at least trying to sound eternal such as the beautiful language found in the King James Bible?

is it good?

Is being an atheist technically heretical, according to the Catholic Church?

no because catholics aren't muslims
we don't need to make scripture "sound eternal" because we already believe that it is the eternal truth

No.
If I'm not mistaken, heretics can only be other Catholics committing a heresy. Maybe if you were a former Catholic, now atheist, insisting that you can still be Catholic without believing in any of its mystical properties and adapting it as nothing more than a moral code or philosophy kind of like some Buddhists do.

Thanks for the answer, pal

Infinite meme works.

>such as the beautiful language found in the King James Bible?

I swear I could translate the Twilight series into Early Modern English and call it a literary masterpiece and you people would believe me.

You just resent it because the proddies did it.

No I don't like it because the language is archaic and it leads to a lot of misunderstandings, especially with non-Christians. I despise the fact that I need to constantly explain to people that unicorns and cockatrices do not in fact exist in the bible, that's it just a relic of centuries old translation based on even older English translation, the Coverdale Bible.

I've tried this before. Nothing came easily or really at all friend.
Tell me more since I've never been Catholic before.

It's called the Latin Vulgate.

It would make you a pagan in the heretic/jew/schismatic/pagan division from the council of Florence posted here

either or the douay-rheims bible (a translation of the latin vulgate) it reads like the kjv.

It's the mass Catholics used to have, until the end of the second Vatican Council. It's a sublime ritual of solemn beauty, the most focused and contemplative experience a man can readily have and it got replaced by a loud, man focused l, secularised and most importantly dreadfully boring Novus Ordo people now attend and think when they think mass. It used to be in Latin or in some places old Slavonic with very fine writing. A lot of repenting in it as well. I used to go to mass because it was a duty, I never enjoyed it, but the Tridentine mass is something else, it moves me more than the best of literature and it was instrumental in helping me quit porn.

Who are some people now who still promote/believe in this form of Mass?

In the past few years, just about every non heterorthodox/heretical Catholic journal in the English language, First Things, Catholic Herald, Catholic World Report etc. They'll often have excellent articles and there's a number of useful blogs like Rorate Caeli and Liturgy guy.

Harvard law prof Adrian Vermuele suggested "On the Generative Principles of Constitutions" in a First Things article a few weeks back (he also suggested Carl Schmitt's "Roman Catholicism and Political Form" which is excellent).

>christianity serves the jews
Have you read the book of Revelation? In the end times, the antichrist will try to fool even the elect.
We can provide evidence for the wicked and blasphemous nature of jews. Only a fool can believe in their 'chosen' myth afterwards.

where can i find Savonarola's "Triumph of the Cross" e-book?

And John Henry Newman, but I don't remember which book.

sorry, I'm not into fantasy novels

>believing in literal fairy tales

*tips mitre*

This is a catholic thread, we tip papal tiaras

How do Catholics justify the idolatry of the Rosary and Christmas Tree? How do Catholics justify supplanting the original feast days prescribed by God as an ordinance for ever? How do Catholics justify changing the Sabbath day to Sunday in ~260AD (Prophecy of this happening in Daniel 7) Read Jeremiah chapter 10, chapter 44, and get back to me.

>Why are almost all Christian girls retarded, ugly or both?
Because all Christians are.

Lmao at the protestant notion of "saved by faith alone." I started reading the Bible a few months ago, having grown up protestant, and immediately realized how blasphemous this doctrine is.