How old were you when you realised that sex was worthless and disgusting?

Then I shall die happy and fat, my good chum.

Yeah, blacks say the same shit, that they are worried about the infant mortality rate...That's why they have so many fucking kids....

Yeah, Aurelius was a nigger.

>not going out for dessert
urdoingitwrong

One a week I go to DQ and get a Chocolate ice-cream sundae with peanut butter drizzle, banana slices, and crushed peanuts.

22, currently realising this and taking the Christpill. But sometimes I still have the urge to masturbate to weird shit. Do you have any book recommendations OP?

fatass

the virgin stoic vs the chad cynic

Simone Weil's writings on illusions and the imagination. Her basic argument is that our imagination gives us dreams and desires to shield us from the fact that we don't actually have a Self, and that true faith is only possible when you realise this fact and bear it. So in other words, from a religious standpoint, indulging in worldly pleasures is a form of self-deception and does nothing but keep you back. I just remind myself that worldly pleasures are never as nice as I imagine them to be.

I'm 27 and a virgin. Have had girlfriends in the past, none of whom I had sex with, as they were all conservative Asian girls. Nowadays I jerk off to 2D 3-5 times a day and pretty much never think about real women. Am I an ubermensch yet?

>DQ
I just googled that and you need to find yourself a pastry chef instead of a paste based ice cream like excuse for fruit.

Thanks! I actually came across her name a couple weeks ago, downloaded some stuff but haven't got around to reading it yet.

I could be a far-right neonazi for all you know

It's once a week. If I die to fake food from eating it once a week, my body wasn't meant for this world.

The BBC did a nice spot on her that summarises her life and ideas. You could check that out before diving into her writings. They are by no means easy to understand.

youtube.com/watch?v=Y8S7OsKRfBY

You dated girls and never had sex with any of them? What the fuck

you won't unlock your true power level unless you drop sex and sexual related en-devours
REEEEEEEE's will deny this

also this is only true if you aren't a normie, where I estimate 60% of this board is comprised of normies

24.
I am in the process of mastering seminal retention. My body craves sexual activity, but I am steadily starving out its presence in my mind.

Don't be such a prude. Even though sexual release can be reduced to friction on a certain membrane and the ejaculation of fluids, you cannot discount the importance of sexual love to human life or the human experience. Unless you are a stinky virgin.

Being able to realize the drive for and the act of sex is a biological function doesn't make it meaningless or worthless, just don't obsess over it and be pulled by the puppet strings of desire every time you get an erection.

>shit leopards can't change their spots
and neither can shitposters

And you don't be so simple-minded. Humans can love without sex, and without even being attached to it. Sex in this time has been so degraded that it is generally an end unto itself. There is no such thing as romance, and what's more ejaculation robs men of the most vital essence their body produces.

Sex drive is life drive. It urges people forward, animates them, motivates them, etc. To let it build up inside you, channel it upwards, imbue the whole body with it until you are pulsating, luminous, vibrant -- "glowing." This isn't being a prude. In fact it is one of the most well-known practices typical to the sage, the philosopher, the mystic.

I was 21, had already dated women and offered sex, but refused. Multiple times they broke it off immediately afterwards. At the time I felt terrible about it because I felt that I was telling them they were unattractive or not worth it, but it was more borne out of anxiety from childhood experiences. But now looking back I feel it was for the better. Now I feel almost a revulsion toward it.

Chastity is stupid, people need to enjoy sexual intercourse and be as promiscuous as possible.
That said, is true that sex is worthless and disgusting, but since we may need it from time to time, there is no reason to try holding it.
Not only that, but it is also fun for human species. If gives you pleasure and dosent put your life at risk, them no reason to avoid.

making money and having sex as frequently as possible is literally the only purpose of a male human that isn't a spook

it's also the only thing that isn't overrated

the jews know this

Actually it has extremely beneficial affects on your brain, indeed why would something you require to ensure a species survival be worthless. Reminder than prehistoric females became sexually active at 10-12 though not entirely able to breed, usually first getting pregnant at 15-17. Just don't over do it and lapse into unhealthy hedonism.

>Reminder than prehistoric females became sexually active at 10-12
Proof? I know you have none

>implying hedonism is bad
grow up

Aisha, wife of Mohammed isent even that old is proof enought.

Thats not prehistoric you moron

This is the most Maileresque passage I've read on here, bravo user

For the past few years, I've really stopped caring about sex. I don't even masturbate anymore.

I just don't care.

>Just don't over do it and lapse into unhealthy hedonism.
>implying

Most webspace is pornographic. This very website is assails the user with a never ending slew of provocative imagery. Who are you kidding?

>Reminder that prehistoric females, etc.

This is relevant how? We are not living in prehistoric conditions, nor even in pre-modern conditions, and the purpose of most of our technological, civil, and medical advances were so that we don't revert to that state, as erroneous as that claim is.

Well if you want to be a mystic or a sage because you have difficulty being romantic and have grandiose opinions about the current state of sexual culture in your part of the world, than fine. Surely you can survive without it and maybe you're right about the correlation between abstaining those who make a living out of higher thought.

But you cannot discount it with grandiose opinions of vitality. You seem to be expressing frustration at the lack of romance you have seen in your life and those around you and attribute it to the times we live in and our popular culture. It means nothing to you now and that's fine but you're justifying your distaste for it while plenty of others explore it and enjoy it.

Don't yuck my yum. Romance is important to me and many others

It have no difficulties with romance. It's because I am romantic, that I choose abstinence. An extremely common misconception people make.

No, my intention was not to disparage you. You're free to do whatever you want. My intention is to make you understand that not everyone who chooses abstinence is a "stinky virgin" who "can't get laid."

you are a faggot

ITT:

Calling it worthless and disgusting is pro death speech.

The desire is an illusion though. A nice illusion to indulge in though I wish it weren't ever present.

Reminder:
If anyone thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virgin, and if a critical moment has come and so it has to be, let him do as he wishes. He is committing no sin; let them get married. The one who stands firm in his resolve, however, who is not under compulsion but has power over his own will, and has made up his mind to keep his virgin, will be doing well. So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better.

Also:
For the time that has passed is sufficient for doing what the Gentiles like to do: living in debauchery, evil desires, drunkenness, orgies, carousing, and wanton idolatry. They are surprised that you do not plunge into the same swamp of profligacy, and they vilify you; but they will give an account to him who stands ready to judge the living and the dead.

>Calling it worthless and disgusting is pro death speech.

Are you actualy mentaly challenged or just a faggot?

>NAB
This is a good passage nonetheless. Christians have pretty much forgotten that chastity is a spiritual exercise, akin to fasting or prayer. My libido is still pretty insufferable at times, but the spiritual benefits are worth it.

It was NABRE, but either ways I'm excited for the new version in 2025.

Baudelaire. He was a degenerate only ironically.

>be me
>reading the bible at the time, not really sure what i think of God or how i relate to him
>filled with self-doubt and look down on myself for not having the things we glorify in the world
>try to get different things like sex or money or social status
>pray to god
>get all of them
>have the craziest sexual experiences, literally every pornographic sexual fantasy fulfilled over and over and over
>have tons of money saved up for my age
>amazing start to my career
>party and drink
>develop huge social life
>praying and going to church and reading Bible falls off
>the more sex and money and glory and accomplishment i get, the more hungry and more unhappy i become
>become angry and resentful
>drive away everyone around me
>truly evil intentions enter my heart as i feel anger and hatred for those around me not giving me what i feel i deserve
>drive away my girlfriend, friends, and colleagues as i lash out at everyone i feel hurt me
>bad job performance, afraid of layoffs or firings all the time
>spend hours planning out how long i can live off unemployment and my savings
>stop caring for myself and gain weight, get minor health issues
>have a breakdown
>hear a sermon on James
>realize how precisely true James 1:13-15 is
"When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed. Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death."
>spend weeks in self-hate and obsessing with my health
>begin praying and praying and praying and begging for forgiveness
>slowly find myself sinning less and less, life improves with such rapidity that my mind won't even let me comprehend it and i keep waiting for things to go wrong
>read through the end of Luke today
>realize what idolatry and impure desire does to our lives
>realize how incredible and complete God's mercy is and in complete amazement at Jesus' sacrifice
>burst into tears

>this is how spiritually broken christians are

what a fucking faggot kys asap

i was agnostic until 2 months ago

Stay strong, God bless you

Not a christfag but I'm slowly not liking sex more and more. Random hook-ups vary from awful to okay and the only sex I enjoy is one where I connect with someone on a deeper level. The act itself isn't fun or enjoyable and after I have sex with someone I'm casually dating all interest falls through the floor. I dunno, it's just not all that like some people make it out to be.

Exactly this. The last hook up I had was just the other week and I literally didn't feel her mouth on me. Tbh looking up at the night sky and listening to the sounds of nature while she blew me were more pleasant and satisfying than anything that she could give me

>Kierkegaard as beginner reading
>The Shack
Someone really needs to revise this

Irrelevant, muh sacrifice muh sin muh guilt muh salvation

All signs of spiritual pathology, Plato's saying that those who can not rule themselves must find a master also applies to religion

Not strong enough to be your own god? Find one to subjugate yourself to

Plato was a dumb pagan though

This list is fucking hilarious. I'm surprised you didn't include The Purpose Driven Life.

Really? Most educated christians disagree

Actually I take that back, the spirituality section is at least half worth reading. Theology needs work.

Maybe something from Veeky Forums, not Reddit.

Putting "Jesus fanfiction but with a lion because the bible is boring and kids love animals" in the same list as Brothers K is even more astonishing.

>not being a laveyan satanist AKA stirnerist AKA egoist

>be
>stoicuck
>be beta
>die
>centuries after be worshiped by betas

No, it's not worthless. It's how we communicate with the Other / Unknown. By foregoing sex you forego communication with such a thing, and I mean that in the typical sense of sex as well as the abstract.

t. virgin coward, but at least I'm honest. Rationalizing your weakness is what's disgusting.

>tfw asexual
I don't know if I count because of it, but when normies talk about their sexual encounters and the times I've come across porn, it just seems really boring and a let down compared to what the imagination can concoct. Sensual stuff like making out has always seemed more appealing.

This is so edgy.

That being said I'm also sensing some spiritual patholgy in anons post.

It's not worthless, but a completely chaste life sounds like a dream.

a cuck's dream

I'm in the same situation except I never had a girlfriend and managed to loose my virginity by hiring a professional prostitute.

nigger

I wonder if it's normal to be truly asexual. Despite having had sex multiple times with both women and men, I felt zero pleasure with any of them, and what is more, lost all respect and affection I had for them after the act. I haven't had sex in several years and it feels like I've been liberated from a dreadfully boring chore. I fap maybe once every 2 months, more as a maintenance thing than anything else.

Most Christian chaste-lit doesn't appeal to me because it's about suppressing sexual desire, which I can't identify with and frankly don't particularly understand. There's so little literature about having a complete lack of sexual desire in the first place, or willingly getting rid of that desire. Any recs?

I hate my body and want no one to see me naked too, OP.

Just kidding, I like myself but don't want to lose dat purity.

>But sometimes I still have the urge to masturbate to weird shit. Do you have any book recommendations OP?
Masturbate once every 3 days. After a while you'll get used to it, and to do it you will need no porn: the memory of a girl you've looked at for 5 seconds 2 weeks ago will be enough.
keep in mind that most people masturbate on weird porn simply because they got used to everything else: novelty is the priority. Still, after 3 days, you won't "need" anything to get off. The simple feeling of you touching your erected penis might be enough.

Rinse and repeat until you become a person that is too old to masturbate casually (this will probably happen in your 40s), from then on enjoy the monastic life, if you're still into it.

easy there Cephalos

the lust for sensual pleasures and the aversion to sensual displeasures is lost for good once there is equanimity towards sensuality. It is a bit of work to gain this equanimity once and for all and hedonists do not want this anyway.

The good news for the hedonists is that:
-you can get this equanimity temporarily and once you stop the training, the desire to enjoy the senses and avoid displeasures come back
-the gain of the equanimity does not mean there is no pleasures, contrary to what hedonists claim. Once there is equanimity towards the 5 senses, the highest pleasure is discovered, and hedonists compare that to orgasms as usual, since it is all they know. It is a pleasure which is not through the 5 senses. It is highest precisely because it is not sensual, and there is no will for sensuality. The pleasures through the senses are the most mediocre that can be experienced, and normies strive for them, claiming it is retarded to ''kill the sensuality'' because it would mean ''death''

The best news for you is that since you do not sacralize sex like thenormies, you may not care much for the 5senes already and you may have some spare time. The lack of care for sensuality makes it easier to get the jhanas. There are various jhanas and normies talk about ''soft jhanas'' and ''hard jhanas'' but at the beginning it does not matter.

leighb.com/jhana3.htm

youtube.com/watch?v=n3yantPe24k
youtube.com/watch?v=3ekGfIFRRU0
youtube.com/watch?v=egFZO2e799w

Jhana-user pls go

There are people right now who believe that sex is mystical.

>he think sex ends in old age

How the fuck are you "asexual" if you've had sex with girls ie gotten a boner, cummed inside a vagina, and experienced orgasm.

>masturbating once every two months as "maintenence"

What the fuck does this even mean?

I have literally never cum inside a vagina or had an orgasm with anything other than my own hand in my entire life. I've never had a boner during sex for more than a minute or two, which means I've never penetrated a woman for longer than that. Of course that left all my sexual partners deeply unsatisfied but I persisted, even letting men fuck me in the ass because I was a dumb normie who thought sex is sacred and necessary for a happy life.

I masturbate because I believe it's healthy to have regular orgasms and also because it helps me sleep.

As an asexual I can say you are either suffering from sort of dysfunction or are truly asexual.

Thing is, if I simply had sexual dysfunction, I think I would want sex. I find sex disgusting, boring and unnecessary. I haven't even thought about having sex with another person for many years.

You're definitely asexual then. Very asexual at that.
As weird as it sounds I'll have sexual fantasies (not even involving myself) but I've never masturbated before and despise the thought of anyone ever getting so intimate with me or touching me.

cope

Very interesting, user. I didn't realise people like this existed in any notable numbers.

As a teen, I was memed by parents, friends and teachers into thinking I have to have sex, so I decided that if I do it enough, I'll start wanting it. Not living that way anymore feels so fucking good, man.

Wait so if sex doesn't interest you, what do you masturbate to? Just curious.

>sapping and draining my precious bodily fluids
lol at you for believing in ancient Chinese witchcraft

ITT: t. Anselms

Mostly weird fetishes that aren't even sexual in nature. Sometimes porn as a matter of habit, I guess. Or nothing at all. I'll literally just think about my day and other things while rubbing my dick.

I have no interest in indulging in these fetishes with a real person, though.

Recreational sex is hedonistic.

20

The actual act of sex makes me so nervous. I suffer from premature ejaculation, probably because of my fear. I stupidly pretended to my girlfriend I was asexual, then felt so embarrassed about it that I had sex with her just to prove I wasn't. We soon broke up after that lol. Also, I don't like the idea of wasting my time to court a girl. Figured I'm better off without them and they're better off without me. I occasionally fap just to expunge myself of the urge.

youtube.com/watch?v=xbOeROe5x9g

It's so hard. I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for songs like these. T-T

:'( i cant escape

When I realised I was worthless and disgusting

>people need to enjoy sexual intercourse and be as promiscuous as possible
>sex is worthless and disgusting
>but since we may need it from time to time, there is no reason to try holding it.
Is sex bad or not?

How could you possibly believe that when you know full well how weak, unknowing and evil you are? Statistically you are not in the top 10% of humanity, so why say you're a god? A demon maybe. I hope you don't live out your existence seeking worship that you don't deserve.