There has been a lot more far-right activity on this board lately, in contrast with its far-left history. I'd like to take a moment to make a general recommendation on improving the quality and effectiveness of our public discourse.
The rise of the right over the past couple years can be largely explained as reaction to the heavy leftism that dominated the Obama and late Bush era: in the first 15 years of this millennium, leftism was taken too far in some cases. Case in point: the SJW movement, third wave feminism, etc.
However the rightism we're seeing now is just as severe: racism, white supremacy, sexism, etc.
The PSA is this: it is possible to react to leftism and accept conservative thought without equaling the proportion of leftism you're reacting to. In other words, since both ideologies are flawed in their own ways, the most reasonable position lies in the middle. We need ideas from both the left and the right to built the best society.
The disagreement you feel within yourself at the sight of ultra-leftism is due to its imbalance, its stray from the center. To match that imbalance with ultra-rightism accomplishes nothing better. Instead of allowing yourself to jump immediately over to the opposite side of things, try to keep in mind the pros and cons of both ideologies, and make critique from the center. That's the only way we can collectively build a reasoned discourse, and reverse the political polarization that has plagued our public forum in recent years.
there is so much i could say but none of you would listen. they never do...
John Nelson
I agree somewhat with what OP is saying. Personally, I don't feel that I fall on either side of the spectrum, nor in the centre. Or anywhere on the compass.
Whenever I take a political test, I fall relatively close to the middle, mostly because of my ambivalence to any position.
To take a position means you must believe in your conclusions. These conclusions will be based on a system based on a set of axioms. Axioms are (as their etymology says) postulates or starting points to reasoning which are taken as "self-evident". What one person sees as self-evident, another person may see as nonsense. Appreciating this pattern, I barely take any axioms that would lead to a recognisable political position.
Going as far as to appreciate the arguments of both natalism and anti-natalism, which are seen in the present in pro-life and pro-choice arguments.
Anyways, my point is this. Peace seems to come from the absence of conflict. It is not provably correct or incorrect for the far-right to push their agenda or beliefs. But in doing so, it will produce reactionaries on the far-left. This is similar to what the OP is saying, that the rise of the far-left in the last decade (and before) has produced far-right reactionaries.
It is necessary for both the far-left and the far-right to realise that, whilst they believe they are in the right, if they cannot explain or reason their point of view to the majority, then they will produce reactionaries who similarly cannot explain or reason their point of view to the majority.
This will just lead to a flattening of the political bell-curve, with more people falling on the far left and far right, leading to more conflict and less peace.
Juan Green
>The disagreement you feel within yourself at the sight of ultra-leftism But OP, I don't feel that at all :^)
Anthony Walker
>just as severe Apologist detected
Josiah Davis
>severe: racism, white supremacy, sexism, etc. So you made a thread to explain how you don't understand the perspective of the right? Don't pretend to be neutral while slanging fake terms like the above.
Camden Miller
I agree with you culturally, but I'm pretty right-wing economically so I'd have to disagree that centrism is the best option.
Michael Thompson
You're just a leftist, dude. But that's what people like me have been tellingly people like you for a long time: the problem here is that the jewish left has been crafting both sides for 50 years so most who are tuned out like yourself don't even understand the conflict. Your "centrism" is a product of design and it's not actually centrist at all, despite what those cute online tests tell you. You are a communist.