Optimism is Cowardice

Is ignorance the only defense against Spengler? Is there any credible criticism for his works and thoughts, aside from censorship?

Reading an actual history book debunks pretty much every word he said.

I guess the ones that agree with him aren't actual, then?

I dare you to find me one.

>reading an actual history book debunks pretty much every word he said
That's what the damage control article on Wikipedia that wants you to believe the myth that "everything is alright in the West" says about Spengler's work. It is funny how all you need to do is open your eyes and look around yourself to realize that the West is dead, but you are unable to do so. On a side note, I'm convinced you haven't read more than a page of the decline.

At some point the west will decline, that however doesn't prove Spengler right
Go read Turchin; it is for grown-ups

I've read plenty of history books and have read Spengler's philosophy of history quite thoroughly. You couldn't be more wrong.

Kissinger, for one. You did say one, but there are others if you look it up.

I don't know what definition of decline you are going by here, but Spengler was right with regards to inward decline. Actual destruction would be more or less accidental, from the outside.

Can you sum up his thesis?

>the west will decline, however that doesn't prove Spengler's right
Once again, did you read Spengler?

Although Spengler is basically right with the majority of what he said, he still is not useful philosophically. You cannot live according to Spengler's ideals and explanations, they are too mechanistic (even though he is supposed to be organic).

>Daddy, what happens when we die?
>Well son, it depends what Culture you are from. According to our prime phenomena, we either transcend to Valhalla or to Faustian-Germanic-Catholic Heaven; but since we are past the Spring period, it seems not it is more a Protestant Heaven, or a Second-religiousness Heaven, which we are yet to see its full development as we are not fully in Winter.

It's just too inauthentic living. You have to believe (or "delude yourself into believing," if that makes you feel better) in some higher philosophy, mythology, or religion and ignore Spengler in order to live fluidly. His theories do not carry over into actual living, even though he was a huge champion of "being-there."