>Of course the blacks are unbearable…I don’t retract what I’ve stated so many times: the Americans made a grave mistake in educating them; as slaves, they were like children, they were happier and less annoying >Basque? I don’t understand how anyone could feel proud of being Basque…The Basques are even more useless than the blacks, and notice that the only good the blacks have ever served for is to be slaves
>read ficciones >it was shit Why is he praised again?
Oliver Price
Of course.
Wyatt Martinez
did he really said that?
Brody Cruz
t. butthurt negro
stick to reading rap lyrics, ficciones goes way ober your head
David Stewart
over*
Matthew Turner
Him and HP Lovecraft can go to hell. It's hard to like someone's work and hate the person.
Kevin James
>He didn't like "The Garden of Forking Paths"
Also.
>Bioy: "Quoting Elena Garro: 'The perfect man today is black, Jewish, communist and homosexual'" >Borges: "That's unfair to Jews
Leo Cook
Looked up the quotes to see if they're real. Find them on a website all about Basque country. >We really think Borges’ “ideological pack” ought to be sealed away before it contaminates anyone. >we might end up thinking Borges has proven the Infinite Monkey theorem proposed by Émile Borel in 1913 in his book “Mécanique Statistique et Irréversibilité”, which stated that “a monkey pressing random keys on a keyboard in an infinite amount of time could finally end up writing any book found in the French National Library”. >Obviously, Borges wasn’t a monkey, but with him we can once again conclude that the greatness of the works does not have to come with the greatness of those works’ creator; indeed, that creator may have a small mind and a mean mentality. Funny, desu
Jackson Cook
It was a different time you fucking monke
Joseph Flores
"Look this thing divides and it keeps dividing!" Wow, so complex user
Lucas Torres
i'm going to stop reading literature. all the authors are racists. fuck them. i'm not going to read something written by someone who didn't want i read it.
Josiah Turner
Borges himself has Basque ears. I rather like the Basques I've met, personally.
John Ortiz
he was wrong. uneducated people are violent, they should have been educated in a different way
Eli Thompson
Why does every board have to be about /poil/ idpol garbage?
Camden Walker
Anyone who thinks blacks were happy as slaves is mentally retarded, great writer or no.
Dominic Richardson
No, less intelligent people are violent. Great difference.
Isaac Garcia
Oh I see mods MY racebait shitpost is not Veeky Forums but this is because one shitty website claims to hsve translated an article?
Logan Powell
>Really, I can’t explain why people feel so proud of being Basque. Like I said, I too have the blood of the Basques…Now, Valencia is something else…Look, I remember something I wrote down in one of my stories: the Basques have done nothing else in history than milk cows, they’ve spent centuries milking.
Austin Peterson
Didn't know, thanks. The (Spanish) Basque family I met were a jolly, witty bunch. And kind.
Gabriel Perez
Why do morons insist on politicizing art?
Grayson Murphy
Everything is political, autismo.
Tyler Robinson
why he got a nigger nose
Bentley King
Then nothing is political, you dummy
Nathaniel Rivera
who's politicizing anything? I just said he sucks
Jordan Wright
Because ethnocentrism always wins
It's just evolution. Being a cuck means you're forever at the mercy of ethnic groups who are unified and not too timid to assert their own interests
Mason Butler
You're just butthurt because deep down you know they were both right
Christian Hughes
>All truly excellent artists and intellectuals are racists
Nolan Bennett
This degenerated quickly.
Nicholas Wood
WTF I suddenly love Borges!
Brayden Russell
More than that, even if you're unified (humanitarian for example) you end up giving away resources to the ethnocentrics while receiving nothing in return (literally exactly what is happening right now with mass immigration). The end result are ethnocentric groups quickly out-competing humanitarian groups. Food shortage? Humanitarians feed everyone, ethnocentrics feed their own. Who wins? Well if you can feed everyone, it's not a shortage, is it?
The only time humanitarianism can possibly survive is during times of great plenty. As soon as you introduce scarcity, BAM. Humanitarianism evaporates and it's a total shitshow.
Hudson Foster
What slander! Whether he actually said it or not Borges was a profoundly humanistic and understanding writer who wrote clearly against racism and bigotry. Why judge an artist by their worst moment and not the vision they presented to the world?
Henry Jenkins
Why do you have a nigger brain?
Sebastian Miller
Not quite. Blacks are unbearable because they're UNEDUCATED.
Evan Brown
redditors first heard about this website during the fappening/gamergate double punch in 2014 and never got over their initial impression of the website as a hip idpol porn site
Owen Mitchell
Borges + Dostoyevski the most irl redpilled shitposter He also hated homosexuals. kek
Easton James
>humanistic >choking on Pinochet's cock
Levi Rivera
Did he actually say that? Doesn't seem like him and you didn't give a source.
Ian Ross
me in the pic
Aiden White
I know, right? It's almost like posters are falling for some sort of ruse here.
Liam Morris
Because he's Argentinan.
Oliver Wilson
You might be on to something user
Landon Davis
I could make you care.
Thomas Clark
>The only time humanitarianism can possibly survive is during times of great plenty. As soon as you introduce scarcity, BAM. Humanitarianism evaporates and it's a total shitshow. What's your point, then? That we dour live as if we have nothing when we have plenty, because one day it MIGHT be more scarce? That's called a poverty stricken consciousness. Why not just live appropriately depending on what is there and recognise we may have to change if the shitshow starts?
He was a good writer and a shitty person, everyone agrees. He was simply stupid when it comes to humans and human relations. He was a whiny, bullyied and overprotected child so he turn into himself and despised the rest, his brain was full of cliches about everything. And, once again, his fictions were good. He wasn't.
Jaxon Collins
Fucking hilarious, a beaner making fun of niggers. Man, you are just the same, South "America" must have stayed as slave countries to the European nations.
Isaiah Lee
>mfw you realise all the fags throughout history that preached equality and peace never thought this would mean living amongst niggers as our 'equals' and they never experienced that horror for themselves eg Samuel Johnson's quote: "How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?" All idealistic nonsense about humanity living together has been taken out of context from the original persons views, literally everyone up to the post-WW2 period thought niggers were unruly animals, and they are right. Anyone civilised and intelligent black always has at least 20% Euro admixture, and nogs love claiming people like Obama (>= 50% white and raised by whites) are "brothers" LMAO
Jace Walker
>The asshurt is palpable lel
No asshurt here. I legitimately thought it was a ruse because OP cited no source. If it's real I still love the old racist bastard anyway because I don't let le social justice fee fees dictate my literary taste.
Adrian Brown
>Anyone civilised and intelligent black always has at least 20% Euro admixture
Are you the type to complain when you see confirmation bias in SJW stances? I bet you are.
Cameron Thomas
I stay out of politics and shit-flinging, especially between alt-right and SJW types. I have read extensively about race, evolution, and similar related topics but desu what I am saying is just common sense, your great-grandad knew it in his heart without reading any political books.
Tyler Edwards
>your great-grandad knew it in his heart
Why do you choose to be this passive aggressive? Do you consider passive aggression to be a masculine trait?
Ayden Price
That's not passive aggressive, I only said that because I'm trying to show the views I espoused are rather common and natural rather than edgy and affected. >masculine trait I'm a femanon anyway, but what you asked is irrelevant and silly
Hunter Howard
Degenerated quickly? The OP was already a dead festering carcass, and the pol tards in this thread are just gulls feasting on it's carrion.
Nicholas Carter
no politicizing was going on you fool. The division in the post you're responding to has to do with Borges' work, not with the division of people. Maybe if you actually read you'd know that
Angel Butler
>come back to lit after month long break
>remember why you left almost immediately
thanks for ruining this place, racist dumbasses
Evan Powell
These are good posts. >What's your point, then? The interest of your own tribe. Ethnocentrism is a survival strategy. The more you propagate your own race, the more likely it is for you as an individual to breed and pass on your genes, and for others with similar genes to pass down theirs as well. It is a natural instinct something that has taken 70 years of indoctrination to weed out in only a portion of the Western population. >because one day it MIGHT be more scarce? Every resource on this planet is finite. Even if we did live in a utopia where resources were always abundant, allowing other groups to take a "fair share" means more of them and less of you. Besides thinking that way is very near-sighted, and high-time preference. Imagine a world where one tribe allowed another to claim its excess resources, over time the rival tribe will bolster its numbers and influence over their land. Now, when the imminent scarcity does happen, what kind of mess have you made for yourself? Now that rival tribe can more easily wipe you out once competition starts.
There is no logical reason to not be racist. The only argument is that of morality, but I say that it is far more morally superior to remain ethnocentric. Basically you are forced to either choose suicide over murder, and I think murder is more justifiable, especially considering the scale of each human race.
Brandon Harris
Same world, apes still aping
Samuel Reyes
Traditional Basque headgear
Brayden Stewart
>the only way to be unified is ethnocentrism Ideological unity is way better (look at Israel) and
>the only alternative spooked ethnocentrists consider is humanitarianism Lmao
They're not good posts at all, what you really mean is that they agree with your worldview.
>muh is-ought based on your poor understanding of evobio Lel
Racial prejudices act as a barrier to equality of opportunity which is key to a meritocracy, so yes there is a logical reason to not be racist
[citation needed]
Juan Cruz
>Ideological unity is way better (look at Israel)
Funniest line in a not unamusing thread.
Bentley Ortiz
> Hey look at me! This one author had a controversial opinion so let's discuss it for 500 posts!
Let me ask you: would it be appropriate if I posted on Veeky Forums Kant's opinion on baked potatoes and asked you if he was philosophically right? What's that? It isn't pertinent to the subject of the board? Well then, now fuck off with your low quality b8 garbage and post it somewhere else.
Isaac Jenkins
>Reading Borges in any language other than Spanish
I seriously hope none of you guys have done this.
Anthony Young
Sometimes I think beaners are fucking worse than niggers, seriously
Sebastian Flores
>Racial prejudices act as a barrier to equality of opportunity which is key to a meritocracy, so yes there is a logical reason to not be racist Yes, that is true, but at the moment you run into some serious issues when implementing the practice of multiculturalism. Firstly, all other non-white races are heavily ethnocentric. There is no way to realistically deal with this by being individualistic. If you promote individualism among your own kind but do not have an answer to out-group ethnocentric you are condemning your own group to be subsumed. Secondly, just as a matter of statistics, there aren't enough geniuses in the third world that warrant the importation of their whole genetic line. A smattering of genius level IQ negroids do not make up for the other 99% of negroids who become a net-drain on society as a whole. The best strategy is to just pick the best from your own stock, even if it means losing a handful of savants from other races. Thirdly, assuming that we do only import the most qualified non-whites into our nations, they still are overwhelmingly ethnocentric. Most of the foreigners who come into Western nations who earn an income end up sending a good portion back to their homelands. Mexico's economy is almost completely dependent on remittances from foreign nationals in the US. The moneygram economy is almost equal to the Oil economy in Mexico. We also ave a big problem with foreign spies, specifically the Chinese who are more interested in the prosperity of their own nations/people over their host's. Also, the jews are a very high-functioning race of people who were permitted to enter the elite class in our society, and they mainly use their accumulated power to serve their own ethnic interests, not their host's.
Ideological unity, or civic nationalism, cannot work. It is simply against human nature. That's just how the world is, we are highly evolved animals, but animals nonetheless. It is best that we run our nations in a way that best suits our natural tendencies, instead of working so hard to fight them. Forcing humans to fight their own nature simply for unjustifiable pleas of "morality" only causes undue suffering and a complete waste of resources
Elijah Long
>Forcing humans to fight their own nature simply for unjustifiable pleas of "morality" only causes undue suffering and a complete waste of resources
The entire concept of civilization, democracy and law go repeteadly against human nature. So many enlightened alt-righters forget that mankind has supressed their own urges just to move forward in so many significant fields.
Matthew Richardson
How is it funny?
Not really, Jews are definitely pretty ethnocentric thanks to their ideology, the Chinese are as well though not as much, but apart from them not really. An easy way to deal with ethnocentrism among others is to simply ensure free enterprise so businesses that put their race over the quality of their wares, for example, fail. And, ensure meritocracy and transparency in large businesses that can't be overtaken through free market competition, with more easily available and less stigmatised suing for hiring pracitothat prioritise race over merit. Anyway, only Jewish ethnocentrism is the really pervasive one; for the ethnocentrism of other populations, simply slowing immigration to a trickle with intensive points based systems and also requiring they already have a job set up will be sufficient to ensure they don't cluster in areas, and it's the clustering that really causes and exacerbates ethnocentrism in most cases. And points based systems eliminate the influx of lower quality individuals
I've never used the word morality, it's you who's causing undue suffering and wasting resources as you're acting against your self interests by unnecessarily denying equality of opportunity for spooks and "muh human nature"
Noah Flores
Plebbiest post itt
Alexander Ross
>>>/reddit/
Nathan White
Yes, I do think urbanization (to an extreme) is against human nature, but it is not nearly as much of a threat to our survival is multiculturalism. The difference is that, when you suppress your savage urges to live in a civilization, you are benefiting from it. You gain access to new resources, shelter, security. It is a communal living on a much wider scale. Basically it's the social contract. Multiculturalism is the exact opposite. It is founded entirely on emotional arguments. You are convincing one race of people to distribute its resources to another for no other reason that is it the "moral" thing to do. Civilization is an extension of the community, a "modernized" instinct for humans as social animals. Multiculturalism is an extension of tribal warfare, and tribal suicide. It is unnatural, and it is why the human race was developing civilizations for millennia, but multiculturalism was only seen as imperative in the last 50 years. You say "move forward" but I don't see how inviting 3rd worlders into white nations has made the white race "move forward" at all. Because everyone is saying that we will soon become extinct. That is the polar opposite of improvement.
I also disagree with democracy completely.
Zachary Gonzalez
So you are just a libertarian? >spooks So you are just leftypol?
Look, keeping the white race alive is not "against my self-interests". It is fully within my interests to keep my nation as a state for my people and their interests. And denying equality of opportunity? How is that in my interest in any way? You're asking me to open up my nation to the world and let everyone come and take what they can grab. A nation shouldn't be treated like a shopping mall with arbitrary borders separating itself other shopping malls.
You believe that white nations (and only white nations) are to be subjected to your libertarian, meritocratic experiments. I don't think that you, or any other libertarian or racial egalitarian has the right to completely divorce a people from its homeland, and to replace it with whomever you see fit.
Matthew Cruz
How come he be racist if he blind xD
Evan Long
>why did god make niggers smell so bad? >so that blind people could hate them too xD
Adam Edwards
He's kinda right, not in the sense that I'm too sensitive to handle racists (I honestly couldn't care less, it's not like I'm """""""""triggered"""""""""") but that all these stupid discussions on race are the lowest of the barrel of humanity. Go discuss it on /pol/ if you wanna, this place is supposed to be somewhat more intellectual and removed from such political shitflinging.
James Smith
Diversity+proximity=conflict. We wouldn't be having so many racial discussions if the races weren't forced together. Veeky Forums is where a lot of people go to expose their impolite opinions and vent their frustrations. Racism and racial discussions will only become more prevalent as time goes on.
Benjamin Brown
>Ideological unity is way better (look at Israel) wow hahahaha
Brandon Ramirez
Can somebody explain to me, even after all this time and all the efforts to educate and bring blacks up to speed, why reading is still the hobby of the white man?
Jace Collins
No, the real problem is just that you're too much of an ape to remove yourself from such petty conflicts. By your metric, arts and sciences would never have existed throughout history, because amongst every intellectual circle, every place supposed to be of higher learning, everyone would just be arguing about the immediate social problems of the time instead.
Although that is indeed what has mostly been true throughout history. People are always so petty and can't think outside of their immediate time period. Again, let me make it clear, you can discuss this on /pol/.
Jason Harris
i'm sure their abysmal iq has nothing to do with it
Jordan Brooks
I'm just stating the facts. The more you expose people to an issue the more people are going to talk about it.
Christian Wright
I'm not a libertarian tbqh, and egoism isn't lefty
>keeping the white race alive >my people The spooks just don't stop with you
It's meant to be a mutualistix arrangement where people come and offer their services and integrate themselves. Meritocracy is colour blind because no merit is derived from colour.
>only white nations Lmao nice victim complex. I'd give the same advice to any country, regardless of the majority ethnicity. And desu nothing I've said is libertarian or even experimental, your understanding of politics is terrible. Not that surprising since you're clearly a /pol/tards, but it's really bad.
>the right >homeland Wow it's like you're trying to include as many spooks as possible
>completely divorce a people from its homeland, and to replace it I haven't really said that, but I guess demographic changes could occur. If the welfare state properly penalises for people on welfare having children and advocates contraception and sterilisation for those who can't afford children , any demographic changes would be due to merit, so if you get outbred it's either because you don't have the resources to rear enough children or you're not producing enough children, so just go to a sperm bank if you really want to preserve your genes
(not the guy you were replying to) Multiculturalism just states coexistence with different cultures. And you can gain from this, through different foods, different practices, different ideologies and new discoveries. It doesn't necessarily imply you just take them into "your" country and put them on the teat of the welfare state with no benefit to yourself. Lmao multiculturalism isn't unnatural, different populations of humans have been coexisting and interbreeding for aeons, like the neanderthals and homo sapiens. Interbreeding is the foundation of evolution as it provides the variety for selection to act on
Grayson Roberts
Multi-ethnic society =/= multicultural society.
Parker Nguyen
based
Josiah Hernandez
>I also disagree with democracy completely Why?
Reading is typically a hobby for higher SES people, you can obviously still get into it if you're lower on the socioeconomic ladder, but it's harder to get the books and you have to have an interest in the topics of the books before you read the books which is almost paradoxical
Luke Ortiz
Not technically, but multiple ethnicities having the same culture is rare unless they've been living together for a long time
Hunter Morris
Reminder that intra-asiatic relations are hysterically toxic, especially when it comes to accepting people/immigrants from foreign cultural values.
Evan Howard
>the most intelligent people on earth (jews and se asians) are both extremely ethnocentric and value monocultures within their nations hmm
Sebastian Diaz
I am white, and whatever state the white race is in directly effects me. It doesn't matter if I consider myself an individual, either. All other races are ethnocentric, and see my as part of a rival group, not as an individual. If those people (acting as a group) come into my nation, I have no other choice than to respond in kind, otherwise my quality of life and genetic prospects dwindle.
You say that my understanding of politics is terrible, but you simply refer to anything you dislike as a "spook" and disregard it. You know, people actually care about things. People across the world live and die for various types of "spooks".
>so if you get outbred it's either because you don't have the resources to rear enough children or you're not producing enough children, so just go to a sperm bank if you really want to preserve your genes The fact is, we are not living in a society where the best rise to the top. Immigration, dysgenics, and government subsidies all add to the non-white population. It doesn't matter how many babies I have or anyone else has, it won't be enough. Besides that, I do not think it is right that in order to keep a homeland, that population has to breed competitively to the point of overpopulation and extreme resource depletion. >Multiculturalism just states coexistence with different cultures. Multicultrualism only leads to war, extreme inequality, and discrimination. People want to be separate. >And you can gain from this, through different foods, different practices, different ideologies and new discoveries. The non-white world has nothing great to offer me, not enough to make up for the extreme suffering they bring. If I wanted to try different foods, practices, ideologies, and discoveries I can read books or research these things online. I don't need 40 million mestizos in my country so I can learn how to make a taco. And you know what? If I needed 40 million mestizos in my nation to be able to eat tacos, then I'm ok with never eating tacos.
>Multiculturalism isn't unnatural. This kind of multiculturalism is. What is natural about a government entity artificially importing Somalians into the most northern reaches of Europe? Nothing. What is natural about a subsidized "melting pot"? Nothing.
Oliver Perez
>>I also disagree with democracy completely >Why? To put it simply, It promotes the lowest common denominator in all aspects of political life. I want the best, strongest, and smartest people at the top, not whoever can appeal to the worst qualities in people, and whoever can take the most bribes while still being palatable. Also, manipulating the minds of a population is extremely easy if you can gain enough influence over the media and educational institutions. Most of the power in a democracy is in the hands of mediamen, bankers, bribers, and other sorts of nefarious types, all of which aren't even elected.
Dylan Johnson
just why is it that teens hate books so much, I wonder
Thomas Allen
What's your evidence that all other races are ethnocentric? Because it sure sounds like a story you've constructed so you can paint yourself as the victim with no other choice than to be racist.
What an irrelevant and fallacious observation, just people believe in spooks doesn't make them any less spooky. And I don't refer to anything I dislike as a spook, I refer to things which are simply social, non-material constructs as spooks.
I didn't say what I would implement would correspond to reality, I'm definitely against the way current governments implement immigration. But your worldview is pants on head retarded, so I'm criticising it. I'm also offering a different system and I've stipulated how the aspects of it are different from what's implemented in reality, but you fail to criticise my system and instead criticise something irrelevant, because, and here I presume, your reading comprehension isn't that great
What evidence do you have to suggest people want to be separate?
What is unnatural about the importing of those Somalians? I don't agree with it, but by what metric are you saying it is unnatural, and by how are you even deriving truth values from whether it's natural or not.
Brandon Cooper
why teens so f*cking based tho
Ryder Adams
And what alternative system do you have? I'd also like to point out that with a meritocratic, transparent government you'd have the best strongest and smartest people at the top. With an ethnocentric government you'd have the whitest/blackest/mexicanest people at the top. Manipulating the minds of the population is even easier with other forms of government, and in most you don't even have to give the electorate a sliver of control.
Robert King
But he was an Argentinian himself
Jack Watson
>I am white, and whatever state the white race is in directly effects me. Laughable.
Camden Nelson
Reading is for nerds. My Black American friends are not nerds. You, on the other hand...
Jacob Kelly
>civilization, democracy and law go repeteadly against human nature. Civilization and law no. There is something in human nature leading to it. In fact there is always something in human nature that makes something possible. The contrary would be absurd, expect calling in divine intervention. And even then grace sublimates nature and doesn't destroy it. Democracy too is rooted in human nature. It is a natural manifestation of envy. Every action is made to reach some good, and this power is in the nature of a thing. You can only suppress "urges" in extinction and non-existence. Creatures are not pure act and always have "urges". It is only a matter of ranking them. As spiritual matters being higher than corporal or social activities. Or self reliance and independence behind better than envy satisfaction/avoidance (as in egalitarianism).
Leo Reyes
Reading is for rich bored individuals who can't get (or enjoy) social interaction And this has been since the dawn of time So...