Dedicated to my senpai and waifu Palmer Eldritch edition.
What was the last book you read?
What did you like and dislike about the last book?
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Canned harder than Can-D:
First for the eternal GOAT.
That's a nice OP image.
When I found that piece of artwork I actually thought that it was an official PKD cover art but it's actually not. It's fanart by this person. They also did fanart of the Three Body Problem pic related.
sharksden.deviantart.com/art/The-Three-Stigmata-of-Palmer-Eldritch-435227023
I wish they'd do another fanart of Palmer Eldritch now that they've made it, but books getting any kind of fanart is already pretty rare. Not to mention the fact that nowadays most books just get a photo manipulation for the cover - which again reduces the art that a book would have gotten to basically nothing.
I suppose being able to draw one's favourite characters is part of the motivation for gitting gud /ic/ wise.
Photo manipulation is the cancer killing genre-fiction. I'd be able to stomach the shit writing if we at least got nice pictures out of it. If I were to ever get into /ic/ it'd be to make nice accompaniment pictures to books I like which don't have many/any.
I think that it's a combination of the following:
>Very few artists have the calibre required to draw at that level
I'm a mid-above average artist myself and I have been drawing since I was six years old, scarcely skipped a week but my art quality would be immediately inferior compared to the ones that can draw with a godly skill. It can take hours to render something that looks realistic (something upwards of twenty hours probably). The Whelan kind of artists spends their entire existence drawing nothing except millions of human bodies, I'd only be able to draw at that calibre if I was to directly draw a copy someone else's artwork, whereas someone who wants to get consistently good must copy millions of other people's works before being able to make something amazing mostly from imagination.
>Most of the good artists get snapped up by the entertainment industry
I think they get siphoned off to the well paying areas - like video games and other forms of concept art, I think. /v/ and /tv/ would steal most of the good ones.
>Most book authors are pretty poor
I don't think that books sell as well as they used to and to improve profit margins publishers can use quickly photoshopped images that would take 10-20 minutes to put together from stock images compared to the 2-20+ years it takes an artist, depending on how shit they are, to get good. I think that most goo artists would be able to make very good photoshopped images too, but the entry barrier is lower and it looks "modern".
>Western art schools aren't teaching the fundamentals as well as they used to
You commonly see this complaint on /ic/ where artists will rant that western art schools are directionless/lazy/only teach modern art whereas places like russia teach more traditionally. Modern art is touted as being like pic related.
There's a huge trend towards minimalism in not only Veeky Forums cover art but also art itself.
*good
This image *is* photo manipulation though. I can tell from the pixels. Admittedly it's good photo manipulation and done with an artistic eye, but this is just a collage with the colour/contrast values changed and creative use of photoshop filters.
It's most likely a highly referenced painting (because I think that the artist is a bit prone to samefacing - ironic given the book - and the lips are rendered similarly). Then they probably slapped a few PS filters on top, something like cutout unless the image was drawn flat (you can set SAI layers to wet edges to get a definitive outline like that). Downloading a paper texture off google and adding that in a blend mode is pretty common practice so that is not painted.
The whole thing's littered with cut-out and find edges. It's still good though.
I've commissioned a fine artist friend to create a cover for my novel, so I'll have some options if it ever comes to publication and they're open to that.
I was watching one of yuumei's art process vids recently and they painted something in a regular manner and then ran photoshop filters all over it. I think that artists do it a lot more when they want to draw something nice but don't want to spend ages rendering it.
That makes sense, turning a rough rendering into something that looks like it's hiding a lot of detail.
This thread has gone to shit already too.
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I prefer the wizard knight
>Read Shadow late last year
>Thought it was just ok with good prose
Am I too stupid for Wolf or something? Guess I'll read it again before going to Claw.
>Photo manipulation is the cancer killing genre-fiction.
It's the cancer killing movie posters too. I mean, the only poster I've liked this year was Kong's.
What are you reading right now, /sffg/?
The King of Elfland's Daughter and The Stars My Destination. Really enjoying both.
Some shit
>Photo manipulation is the cancer killing genre-fiction
How would you feel if this was the cover for a "Greatest SFF of the Age Collection, and other stories"?
Is that the matrix?
>Mark had never heard of Freyr or Freya and was not sufficiently sophisticated to grasp the idea of a statue’s changing identities. “Well, which is it really,” he asked impatiently, “Mary or Freya?”
>“The charcoal burners call it The Unwed One,” Wat said, “and I suppose that could be either. What makes you so certain the two are different? Perhaps both the names, all the names, are for the same thing—Freya yesterday, Mary today, something else after we’re gone.”
What did Wolfe mean by this?
>everyone is either at work, at school, or deep in some pussy
>tfw I'm home, a virgin, and reading fantasy novels
Please release me from this existence.
>Freya
Is a Norse Goddess of fertility
>Mary
Is the Catholic demigod of fertility, rebirth, and everlasting life (by means of her son)
Eh all three are very unemphisised and the comparison between the two is pretty far fetched.
I meant is he some kind of crypto-monistic-syncretist. The next line is the kid saying it either is Mary or it isn't, but I can't tell where Wolfe's view might actually lie. I got a similar feeling in Soldier of the Mist where Pausanias and Latro talked about a god who was so powerful his servants themselves were gods.
I was recently memed into reading The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. After reading a few chapters, I know only one thing: I want to rape Kvothe. I don't mean that in a metaphorical sense of besting him. I mean I literally want to sexually assault him. Every night I lie awake, imagining Kvothe's screams as I enter his tight pink virginal cunt and shove him back and forth like the world's most expensive fleshlight. He would piss himself from the mind-breaking terror of someone not being bewitched by his godlike intellect and skill, and I would rub his nose in the puddle of piss as if he were a disobedient dog. I would abuse every one of his holes until my balls were completely drained, and then I would leave him twitching pathetically in a pool of cum, blood, piss and vomit. For one last torment to break his will completely and beyond all repair, I would smile and tell him that Tolkien sends his regards.
he literally gets raped tho
Does he? Well he was clearly not raped hard enough.
Hot.
I want to watch this. But the twist is that kvothes boipucci is indeed so magnificent and talented that user too succumbs to kvothes genius.
Wolfe is very interested in the idea of symbols changing, meaning the same things, meaning different things to different people, etc. You could say that his work is often driving at Mysticism (is that the word? I'm referring to the idea of all spirituality driving at the one idea interpreted in a bunch of different ways), but that would seem to contradict his Catholicism. But then maybe not, he seems to think a lot of odd shit and has probably thought this through to the point where it makes sense to him. He seems to sincerely believe in the superiority and ascendancy of the Catholic Church over all over faiths and beliefs but at the same time gives a weird amount of credit to the strangest stuff like Pagansim.
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The pantheon in wizard knight is pretty cool
I want wild, screaming sci-fi or fantasy. Something with real feeling, but also sometimes a frenetic, violent, almost furious bent. I want to feel like I'm listening to Death Grips or Melt-Banana or something while I read.
Is J.G. Ballard's The Drowned World a good place to start?
It's great for things other than the prose.
>tight pink virginal cunt
Joke's on you. Someone loosened that up ages ago. Read the book entirely so you won't do things that he might actually enjoy.
The reason Kvothe has sex with so many women is to prove to himself that he isn't gay, and that he didn't like when his backdoor was violated. It fits. He chases after Deanna because he knows that she would never actually give him pussy. So he has that to occupy his mind instead of the alley way when he was younger. He also cloaks his being a faggot by being seen chasing pussy. They would laugh and say he is a sad thirsty wretch, not knowing that in reality he is a total faggot.
Kvothe couldn't hide anymore in the end. That helper he has working in his inn is his lover. Remember how he got so violent when someone threatened Kvothe? Only lovers do that. Remember the way he looks at Kvothe? How he isn't described as masculine at all?
You are all reading Rothfuss's gay closet novel.o
Being attracted to men doesn't automatically mean you like getting raped in alleys, dude. I'm attracted to women but if some chick I wasn't into decided she'd fuck me anyway, and slipped me a roofie and a viagra and rode me to hell and back, I would be pissed.
Wait no, you just posted a response to an element of a post without it being directly contextualized around a science fiction or fantasy novel, the "only literature on Veeky Forums" autist is gonna get you!
Good points. Wolfe seems sincerely Catholic, but I also get the sense that he must hold some heterodox ideas. Has he ever talked directly (lol) about what Catholicism and religion mean to him?
Being attracted to men means you like to be topped. You want to be man handled. Remember Kvothe putting himself in more and more dangerous situations? It's because he wants to be dominated again. He found this with the Ninja Monks and Felurian. He has that bitch boy fairy around to dominate, so he can try and hide his true nature.
Never much. He only mentions he's very much practicing, aka mass and sacraments.
This meme wasn't made just for show you know?
My hips hurt when I sleep. how do I fix this?
Can you tell me where in the book he gets raped? I want to read that scene.
I wonder if Kvothe ever whores himself out to the patrons of his inn. Those are rough hardworking men, and I'm sure they would not pass up the opportunity to fill the pretty twink innkeeper's holes. Kvothe probably only truly feels alive and content when both his mouth and his hungry cunt are spread open by a fat greasy cock, and semen mixed with drool is running down his chin. I bet they cum on his little tits too and twist his nipples until he screams in pain and pleasure. All the while, Bast sits in the corner like a cuck and watches the defiling of his beloved Reshi, masturbating furiously with his own tears.
I bet he does it all for free.
Stop having them move on their own?
How the fuck do you know of bast and his nickname for kvothe, yet you don't know Kvothe was raped?
Does anyone know any fantasy with a heavy focus on feudal politics? Aside from Ice and Fire.
Arts of Dark and Light
He gets raped early in book one, by one of the other orphans in the city iirc
Maybe you haven't gone through enough life experiences yet?
>Can't stop picturing Achamian as Alex Jones dropping sick truth bombs about the Consult
God, I wish you'd said that before I read those books. That's fucking perfect.
Bast calls Kvothe that long before the rape happens. Literally in the first few chapters iirc. I read up to the part where Kvothe's parents died and the nickname was already there.
It sucks though. I don't want to read about helpless child Kvothe getting raped. I want to read about adult Kvothe getting raped and secretly enjoying it and wanting more.
So can we go back in time and hire a competent editor for Bakker? TUC was such a complete shit show of a way to end the "main series"
>Judging eye was fucking pointless and never served a purpose after banishing the shade of Gin'Yursis
>Like 75 pages of literotica tier torture porn, a hundred pages of navel-gazing philosphy and 10 pages of interaction with the actual consult
>Sorweel reverts to full retard vengeance mode and dies pointlessly.
>Shauriatas, whose name is even spelled wrong, supposedly a literal immortal sorcerer god, gets killed off page
>Aurax and Aurang have about 10 lines between them
>Cunny dragon
>Kelmomas gets a pass time after time after time because "muh wife would get mad"
Honestly, kind of wish I hadn't read it.
This looks like it could be decent. Anyone here read it? Is the prose okay? Do I need to have read the first two to understand what's happening?
Is Neuromancer worth reading/patrician?
Any other epic scale series with lots of intrigue besides ASOIAF?
Can be sci-fi or fantasy, but for some reason really not in the mood for science fantasy.
Has he released the second half of the second book yet?
>The charcoal burners
Probably the Firefall series by Watts. Only 2 out of a planned 3 have been published but shouldn't be /too/ long to wait for the final one.
>You may violate his tight bp every night but long after you are gone I will still be here, making him laugh and giving him blue balls
It's pure aesthetic, if that's what you mean.
>worth
Yes
>patrician
No. The first 60-70 pages are some of the best SF you will ever read. The moment they leave Chiba the quality drops. The plot itself is hogwash tebehe. Don't bother with the sequels.
Nice dressing for a really mediocre plot.
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Started reading Too Like The Lightning. On one hand I'm liking it but I'm also finding the "lifestyles of the rich and the famous/literal French nobility in the 25th century socialist utopia" stuff very tiring.
>SELF PUBLISHED: Subtitle Name, by GENRE HACK
>It's going to a lyrical and heartfelt novella about a confused young woman running away from her small town to live alone in the woods and enjoy solitude
>I'll make her seduce and have sex with a reptile-like alien as well.
Never change, Silverberg.
"Coal-Burner" is American slang for something
Hope you love the taste of my cum, cuck!
unironically this
Nnf, is Kvothe really supposed to look like that or is this just slashfic fanart
>science fantasy
Newbie here. Is this a real thing? If yes please provide examples.
Third book when?
Of course he looks like that. Did you seriously expect the biggest Mary Sue of our time to look like anything other than a sexy little bitch?
>google literotica
>"Hmmm how did I never hear of this"
>Go to awards forum
>"2016 Literotica Awards: Nonconsent"
>"""Nonconsent""""
I think ada palmer terra ignota and nk jemisin broken earth series are examples
>never heard of literotica
dude, you've been missing out
Many if not most of the books that are memed here are science fantasy desu. BotNS and Lord of Light spring to mind.
star wars
How the fuck is bottom right so much hotter than Dany herself?
Just making sure, but you realize you're not supposed to read them like you would most other books right? they're kinda puzzles, the narrators aren't truthful
Maybe.
Make sense, I was casually reading it in between lunch breaks. Guess I will reread it then.
I casually read them and enjoyed the series. It was entertaining. I didn't have to get all the Da Vinci Code references.
git gud
>Eh all three are very unemphisised and the comparison between the two is pretty far fetched.
Not for the Catholic idolaters
t. Nestorius
Don't know Ballard, but Zelazny's Creatures of Light and Darkness is insane.
>but that would seem to contradict his Catholicism.
Early Catholicism fucking loved syncretism
>Like 75 pages of literotica tier torture porn
>Bad
Then you are lost!
>>Shauriatas, whose name is even spelled wrong, supposedly a literal immortal sorcerer god, gets killed off page
He's living in the Dunyain that run the Consult now.
Ballard is not over the top crazy but DW is great.
>Chanv! They're putting Chanv in the water, Mimara!
I agree about the torture porn, the pacing, and Sorweel but I think a lot of this other stuff will make sense retroactively.
Great Ordeal and Unholy Consult should never be split.
>>Kelmomas gets a pass time after time after time because "muh wife would get mad"
>Kellhus gets a pass from Moenghus time after time because "muh son wouldn't go mad"
It's like pottery. Poor Maithanet got screwed coming and going
Not exactly. They had a very noticable disdain for all things pagan, but on the other hand not for Plato and Aristotle, they were often put on pair with the old testament prophets, but instead for the jews, for the pagans.
>How the fuck is bottom right so much hotter than Dany herself?
I dunno but I hope this actor has kids ASAP so I can one day fap to his hot daughters
It depends on if they were focused on regulating the current church or converting heathens.
Nah, it's The Shockwave Rider. I guess the artist took some inspiration from the Matrix for the aesthetics of the cover, but it's not like it's an inaccurate portrayal of Nickie Haflinger's predicament in the book.
>literotica
lol what a normie
fictionmania is where it's at
Are we just gonna pretend that the most important GET in Veeky Forums's history is less than an hour away?
Don't furget pls