The 2017 Corvette has leaf springs

I POSTED IT AGAIN

>If it aint broke, dont fix it!

The fuck is wrong with transverse leaves?

Why not?

the other way around actually, regular leaf springs are progressive rate and coil springs are linear.

The actual problem with leaf springs is there is friction between the blades, so the damping is all over the place. Most leaf springs are also used as suspension arms, and they do a shit job at it.

Both of these problems aren't a issue in the corvette rear suspension, so the coice between coils or the carbon fibre monoleafs are just preference.

If I'm not mistaken, the only way that a leaf spring can be progressive is if they're stacked, like on a pick-up truck (corvette only has one). Where as springs like the one in the picture, are progressive with the difference in spacing between the different coils.

You can have progressive coils as well afaik but yeah leaves are progressive, all you need is a tapered leaf ignoring packing arrangements. Transverse leaves can be great though, they package way better

Iirc every Corvette ever had leafs on the rear. They said they won't change it, because of "heritage" or something like "it was in every Corvette, so if we change it, it won't be a Corvette anymore" bullshit

>meanwhile they're working on an MR Corvette because they got BTFO by the Ford GT
LOOOOOOOOOOOL

Ikr, Chevy makes no fucking sense. Besides, I would probably handle so much better if it didn't have fucking truck springs.

Why in fuck would you compare those two cars?

because the corvette got BTFO by the Ford GT at lemans????

that's an unfair comparison though. the gt is literally a race car with the necessary modifications to be a street car. a lot of it is sourced from a daytona prototype.

They are both sports cars?

And you find this surprising for some reason?
>tfw

Nope, one is a sportscar, the other is bordering on a hypercar and the fact it costs over 4x as much indicates this

>And you find this surprising for some reason?
no, obviously
everyone knows gm is trash

doesnt make it any less fun to laugh at braindead gm fangirls

Simple things I guess

gm is like mcdonalds. yeah the food is crap and not good for you but it's cheap and it does the job and if you're starving and offered one, you're not gonna turn it down

I'm guessing you're newer here. This place is a cancerous hellhole filled with little shits like the one you were talking to. Anyone benchracing the new corvette is just there to make shitty posts for the sake of making shitty posts. They're not worth engaging. They have heard it all before and don't care about increasing their understanding of suspension, valvetrains, etc.

I actually would turn it down. There's other restaurants I can go to. McDonald's is unhealthy trash
The Ford GT isn't a hypercar you braindead gm fangirl.
sperg more cuckold

Nope, price consideration does not count. See

Heh, well then a Honda civic is the best car ever because you can dump a million dollars into it and beat any car.

weebs are still severely triggered over this image Lol

post caused a massive trigger

I don't even see the point in the comparison even if they did cost the same, if them switching to MR is supposed to showcase "lol leafsprings a shit" you could've just pointed out the fact that the racing corvette never used leafsprings and got the same point across with less autism. Ford is scared of letting the production GT be compared to anything so it isn't even relevant to any conversation and you could've used the 488 as a example of good suspension MR.

>it's another alphonse meltdown thread

Thank you based prezo!

called it dude lol

all I have to do is post this lol alphonse defaults into an instameltdown

I would rather hae a front engine corvette with slightly more modern suspension instead of an MR that will just make it more expensive.

>they're this obsessed with me

we need to keep an objectively shittier suspension geometry because of muh heritage

corvette

>coil springs are linear.

Not even close, coil springs can be as progressive as you want or even have more than one distinct rate

there is literally nothing wrong with properly implemented leaf springs.

I don't think you know the difference between transverse leaves and longitudinal leaves.

ITT:
All leaf springs are bad
A MacPherson strut would be better because it has a coil spring
Someone comparing a 400k supercar to a Corvette.
A few chill dudes

carry on.

Tbh the Corvette is supposed to perform like a supercar

yet it doesn't lol

not really, it's supposed to be a comfy highway car.

>There's nothing wrong with transverse leaf springs REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Then why does no other sports car, currently in production, from any manufacturer, in the entire world, use transverse leaf springs?

Packaging and cost, mostly. It lets you do away with the sway bar (or make it significantly smaller and lighter) as well.

It's really not worth getting that worked up over spring configuration- the damper matters way more. Hence why you see so many race cars running adjustable or active dampers.

It's honestly a zero-sum design, it has some advantages and some disadvantages. Spergs like to think of longitudinal truck springs when they hear "leaf" and so very few prestige manufacturers want anything to do with it.

Kinda like how lots of sports cars have drilled rotors when it's been proven they do jack shit anymore with modern pad compounds... their market expects it, and they have to move units to stay in business.

Because they'd have to retool their factory for little benefit? A sway bar functions similarly, except with the transverse leaf it does the job of both the coil springs and the sway bar. This saves about 10 pounds of unsprung weight on the current Volvo XC90. It also lowers the center of gravity and avoids tall spring mounts, which would reduce cargo capacity.

Americans are all about muh tradition, if you haven't noticed already. Yes, it doesn't have much benefit, but its what they've been doing for years and they'd have to retool their factory for no benefit except costing a hair less on a car that's not trying to cut corners to cost a tiny bit less than its competitors.

At the end of the day it's an accessible sports car that performs as well if not better than it's rivals that cost much more.
It's still funny when people compare a 50k car with high tech/high priced legends

anything more sophisticated would break the budget for most muttrican companies. Ever wonder why the highest tier US car costs less than a base Porsche?

see and

well you get a lower center of gravity since the leaf is mounted so low, that's something

By divine right Ill lead an army of shitposters to exterminate the GM fangirls.

Honestly, I like the Corvette because it’s so American. Truck springs, truck motor, cheap, easy to fix, and fast. It’s a pretty good sports car DESPITE the engine and suspension being (in some cases) identical to the ones found in their trucks. Even if it isn’t the fastest, it’s cool that it comes even close to something purpose-built (street-legal) race car like the GTR given those facts.
Let’s not forget that the other American fast car (R.I.P.), the snek, had a truck motor too.

>performs as well if not better than it's rivals that cost much more
Have another bong hit.
Pigfat front engine RWD, useful for driving in straight lines and wrecking on curves.

>Both of these problems aren't a issue in the corvette rear suspension, so the coice between coils or the carbon fibre monoleafs are just preference.
>carbon fibre monoleafs

HOW CAN CARBON FIBRE NANOTUBES BE USED IN A CURRENT PRODUCTION VEHICLE WHEN LESS THAN A DECADE AGO BOB LAZAR STATED THAT THE SCIENTISTS AT GROOM LAKE (S-4 AKA AREA 51) HAD ONLY BEGUN TO REVERSE THE GRAVITATION SPOOLING PROCESS?

BERNSTEIN?
BERENSTAIN?

lolleafsprings
lolpushrods

GM is trash, no surprise

>that oil filter and oil cooler location

trash, literally trash

>Bordering on hypercar
Does reading comprehension affect you often?
It's 50% more expensive than it's supercar brethren, if it doesn't turn that directly into performance who's fault is that?

>Even if it isn’t the fastest
Pretty close.
Fast enough to kill a VAST majority of Veeky Forums.
Also, modern as fuck. Handles so much better than muh 90's meme car

Dude, youre blind

who fucking cares, they could put rusty mattress box springs under the rear suspension and you would still buy the fucking car anyways.

Dude, all of the best hypercars in the world are hybrids.

This is a piece of shit though. It has a lot of European parts so you'd think it's at least that good but no. Muricans made it so it's less than the sum of its parts.

Wait what?

Car's still don't have air suspension?

Air? Bitch I want electro conductive hydro-metallic fluids that change viscosity and dampening in real time to the road surface.

>Technology from years ago
>Wants it in modern cars

Yeah lemme know when we're able to use our brain waves to have symbiotic sex with a partner and we'll talk.

A bent piece of metal is cheaper, has greater clearance and does not fatigue anywhere near as quickly as current air systems do.

It's literally set and forget.

As if that is even a problem, the McLearen P1 and Proshe whatever it is called are both fast as fuck and are hybrids.

Inb4 but the repair bill when the batteries die. Do you think people who can afford these cars will be put off by that? They can afford it.

naw m8

carbon fiber =\= carbon nanotubes

I wish someone would swap a rotary into one of these.

Is that so your Corolla can be quicker than a Vette?

Transverse monoleafs (first used in 1984) are centuries more modern than both conventional longitudinal monoleafs (first patented for vehicles in 1804), and coil springs (first patented for vehicles in 1763).

So, who's using outdated technology now?

Suspension geometry is actually unchanged if you still use a double wishbone or multilink. In modern leaf suspension, the leaf isn't part of the suspension geometry anymore. In old longitudinal multileaf setups, this was still the case, and it's why they're so shit.

Doesn't just save weight on the XC90, it retains cargo space. People expect a hybrid SUV to have masses of cargo space, and coil springs + battery packs means you don't get to have a boot.

>HURR no one else does it so that means it must be shit
Just imagine fags like this in the pioneering days of automobiles.
>hurr durr no-one else makes a self-propelling carriage so it's useless shit, horse master race, horses are the best because everyone uses one

Yet outperforms a base porsche and higher performance models

>Truck springs, truck motor
Stop falling for Veeky Forums memes. Look at the Corvettes rear suspension. Now look at a pickup's. Completely different. Motor statement is also retarded. The newest smallblock architecture debuts in aluminum in a sports car. It is then cast in iron and detuned for trucks. So actually, American pickup trucks have sportscar engine options. Viper V10 also debuted in the Viper.

A FUCKING LEAF!

those leaf springs look like they aren't stacked. Is there coil springs not visible in the picture?

>transverse leaf functions as a sway bar
Is there some sort of GM wizardry to this? Because I cannot fathom in my head how transverse leaf would at all function in a similar manner to an anti-roll bar.......

one end of the spring bends up so the other side bends up too

Think about how a sway bar functions and apply that to how this setup works.

By what method?

idk, but there is a yellow bar there that looks like a sway bar, so idk

Yeah I think you lads are talking out of your arses.

ok, then what is that yellow bar, smart man?

A sway bar, which is why I think you're talking out of your arse about transverse leaf having some magical anti-roll function.

It's just a single leaf afaik

of course it will, for quickest acceleration using an electric motor to span 1st and 2nd is probably the best option.

i dont expect it to be some fucking chevy volt or some shit but something more along the lines of KERS systems where its a small battery

where are the shocks?

>shocks
>2017

You're going to get something like a NSX, except for heavier and FR, instead of something like the P1.

And the non-hybrid 720S is better than a P1 anyways, never mind the new Senna.

The 918, P1, and La Ferrari were responses to oil sheiks looking to skirt the bans that many european cities were placing on pure-petrol vehicles in the city center, they aren't made better by their hybrid powerplants, they are made heavier, and therefore worse.