So after 5 years of lifting I finally feel comfortable in my own skin, but I am still horrified of women. What can I do to fix this?
I am a 28 KV btw. Started lifting at 23 years old after being a gaming nerd for the majority of my life. I look like a typical chad now though, which makes me feel even worse because I have no depth to my look, it's all just a facade.
How can I bring depth to my new appearance? If that even makes any sense to anyone. Right now I am too scared to even try because I wouldn't know what to actually do, even with basic things...not even talking about fucking, just basic shit like chatting or communication/flirting. I literally have no idea, right now I just go about life pretending that I am taken anytime a girl shows interest because Im too scared to do anything and its just easier to tell them I have a GF.
just spending your free time picking up heavy things, that fixes everything
Austin Turner
They already talk to me, and I avoid them. Because I don't know what to do so I push them away.
The whole point of me posting here is to ask why the fuck I do this and how I can build myself up to stop automatically going defensive mode anytime a woman is near me.
My first 23 years was full of rejection and being ignored by women so I learned to deal with that by just not caring anymore and telling myself I don't want them anyone (fox grapes etc). Now that I can finally get them my brain still wants to defend myself from harm so it makes me push them away.
Joshua Wood
They're just people. Honestly. If you just laugh every once in a while and loosen up, people open up.
Bentley Reed
>So after 5 years of lifting I finally feel comfortable in my own skin, but I am still horrified of women. What can I do to fix this?
I can't believe how fucking stupid the people on this board are
Easton Sanchez
Do you go clubbing? Might be a step towards blending in with the normies.
Jackson Cooper
By realizing this, you are already on your way. Alternatively, read 100 books and talk to five different strangers everyday.
Either you'll become smart as fuck or get over your social phobia.
When you accomplish this, you won't need Veeky Forums anymore.
Hudson Campbell
I went through this somewhat at around 19, Where girls would walk up to me and say hi, whistle out of their car etc and I had no idea how to act so I would just do nothing and they'd think I'm rejecting them and leave. Made me feel like shit and I was happier when they didn't notice me.
I've slowly gotten more comfortable over the years (28 now) and while people will still say I'm awkward sometimes, I can actually do okay flirting now provided the girl comes up to me first. In this situation I become pretty confident. I'm still inept at cold approaching but I can be smooth and natural in the right situations, which is much more than I could ever manage at first.
It's a long process but one thing if you're a virgin is that you should just try to get a girlfriend, one who makes you feel good and brings positivity to your life, even if she doesn't look the way you'd prefer. A girl like this will build up your confidence and make you comfortable with showing affection. She may be somewhat homely and you can just look at her as a stepping stone if you must, but this will go a long way to developing ease in these situations
Nathaniel Stewart
Read no more Mr nice guy by glover
Easton Mitchell
>"hey, can I borrow a penc-" >"I HAVE A GEE EFF GET OFF OF ME YOU WHORE"
Gabriel Brown
Who else here was rejected as a child and now thinks girls are either not interested in him or if they display affection it's because they are making fun of us?
I'm a confident person with low self esteem I think.
David Evans
T I N D E R I N D E R
Ian Gutierrez
>Clubbing >Normies
Yeah I don't know buddy. If you're in your mid twenties and you haven't grown out of going to the "club" regularly, you're anything but normal.
Chase Thomas
>tfw that dog is dead
Carson Parker
Well you sound like a barrel of fun.
Jayden Gutierrez
I guess I'm not then, random stranger on the internet.
I just don't enjoy going to a loud bar, filled with dumb skanks, where the drinks are like 7 dollars a piece and I have to scream at the top of lungs to just have a conversation.
Noah Parker
>just don't enjoy going to a loud bar, filled with dumb skanks, where the drinks are like 7 dollars a piece and I have to scream at the top of lungs to just have a conversation.
Andrew Martinez
This. It's all you can do really. I was in a similar position but several years younger. It's easier for me admittedly since I'm in university and can find plenty of excuses to talk to random girls. I can't imagine how difficult it must be outside school.
Joshua Powell
He has a point though.
Hunter Davis
>Where girls would walk up to me and say hi, whistle out of their car etc I have not, and never know this feel.
>tfw you can lift all day, every day, and you'll still have an ugly face with big ears and a hairline that can be summed up as: "JUST"
Benjamin Lewis
You sound like a total downer. That's why you're a kv faggot and i have two gfs literally attached to my hips. Everyone gives you advice and you're basically rejecting any help.
>have hobbies and dont be a sperg about it >be friendly and nice >Learn how to dress Learn how to value yourself with more than your body and sex life. The deep qt girls that you want are usually into guys with something interesting to say spiritually. Something you are far from gaining because you do nothing but put yourself down like every other reddit douche bag on Veeky Forums
Christian Rivera
I'm pretty sure it's impossible.I can talk to people when i feel i have something that i'm genuenly interested in that i want to ask or share but meeting girls means cold opens, and when I even think about cold opening I can't get over the leachy vibe that I'm giving off. They say you should give off the air of having when you approach but in 99% of cases when i'm having fun i don't want to approach strangers, and when I try to I'm not having fun anymore.
Andrew Carter
girls are just guys with tits and a vag
they are not special
Owen Evans
>girls are just guys with tits and a vag
fuck off SJW liberal hipster faggot, girls are NOTHING like guys.
Leo Hall
Do you look good faggot? Lifting didnt do shit for me, until i reached a point where my body actually started looking veeery good. If you are an shredded asthetic sik kent and you are still holy autismo than yeah you got a serious problem.
And no, im not talking about ottermode.
Jaxson Martinez
I mean they arent special
stop putting them on a pedestal. if anything girls are like large babies in terms of intellect
Dylan Scott
>he actually thinks being a big muscular freak gets him laid
lmao, youre a shutin virgin arent u?
Logan Long
Lol my life. I say lol but really I cry
Connor Green
>Who else here was rejected as a child and now thinks girls are either not interested in him or if they display affection it's because they are making fun of us?
yes, 100% always.
infact i pretty much assume someones going to make fun of me in every situation im in.
amazing what consistent shitty experiences in childhood/teenyears can do to the mind even as an adult
Jaxson Hughes
This lol, I literally just said yeah and laughed on my last date and we still had sex. If you look as good as you say then this should work for you too.
Ryan Watson
>amazing what consistent shitty experiences in childhood/teenyears can do to the mind even as an adult
And it's amazing how consistent positive ones can affect people for their whole lives too. It's amazing to see 40ish year old women who have a mega gunt, a face that is beginning to look like worn leather, and still thinks she's the belle of the ball since she WAS when she was 16 and every guy in her high school was beating off to her at night. This isn't exclusive to women of course but I find that to be far more prominent.
Jack Cox
Did i say that you retarded faggot? Did you even read OP's text? He said he is holy autismo and cant get over it. I wasnt talking about getting laid you faggot.
>reading comprehension
Austin Peterson
ur a gunting goat cookie cutter order sissysis ur ass right now
Zachary Campbell
OP at least you didn't become gay(like me) because I did what you did, started to not care or let myself thing about girls sexually(unless it was in porn), also I wasn't around girls most of my life so I started to think about my friends fucking girls I thought were pretty. That soon escalated into cuckoldism, and obsessions for well endowed men. I started to associate big penis with porn and pleasure, so when I saw a dick pic I could fap to it. Soon I started to watch gay porn because I find that more realistic(in my case, cuz there's a much bigger chance that I'd be on my knees sucking cocks than ever fuck a pretty girl).
I've made myself gay because I'm so beta, which is really pathetic really, but I'm 25, only had sex once with a woman in her 50's(see tricked me by lying about her age, fucked here twich, first drunk as fuck, then sober, I cried after the sex because I felt like I had been violated).
Oliver Watson
>infact i pretty much assume someones going to make fun of me in every situation im in.
That's how I feel all the time.
For example, I always avoid telling people what kind of music I listen to because I feel they'll think it's stupid or that they'll think I'm weird, so I just say I listen to everything.
Or when I eat in canteen and hear laughter I always think I'm dropping food, or that I have some food on my chin or something like that, or I'm opening my mouth too much etc.
I'm not OP, btw.
Easton Turner
>girls are just guys with tits and a vag but i can't talk with guys either
>tfw no friends what do?
Aaron Miller
Guys like you have basically two separate problems:
1) Overestimating how much other people care/think about you. 2) Assuming that if other people think about you, it's in a negative way.
On the bright side, you 'only' need to fix one of these.
Adam Brown
That's sad bro. I bet that's how most guys turn homo too. And women have the balls to say they were born that way.
Chase Kelly
Stop thinking about it and just do it.
Also, just like anything practice helps.
John Turner
clearly lifting can't cure autism
Landon Evans
This is not the board for real relationship advice.
That being said, having been in your situation, you absolutely need to find some kind of local coed sports activity group to join, like softball, volleyball, frisbee, etc. Or something along that nature. To start, its just something to do, slowly letting you ease into social life if you want to, or just ball hard and impress the ladies without having to talk to them. Eventually one will catch your eye, you will grow a pair, and also have a pair of tickets to something that she might enjoy and ask her if she is free.
99% of the time works 100% of the time.
This is for finding serious, potentially stable girlfriends, not for bar sluts. If you want that, I'm sure others have better advice.
>inb4 normie yeah fuck off this is the most normie board on this degenerate midget juggling website.
Grayson Green
Get tinder and just talk to women and realise how easy it is when you look good (you say chad now). Will do you wonders.
Jaxon Moore
How do you fix it?
Xavier Parker
you should be horrified, they're terrible creatures
Robert Reyes
source?
Anthony Reyes
This is lame, glad im gay. Girls are for faggots anyways.
>How do I get a gf >I pretend I have a gf so they leave me alone
Wew
Colton Jenkins
Don't you have fucking friends you can ask this instead of fucking Veeky Forums you robot.
Carter Gomez
Thx m8
Kevin Foster
she has a picture of herself on her phone
Samuel Fisher
By realizing that you are as important to strangers as they are to you. You ever consider that every person you walk past every day has lived a life as full of not more full than yours? Probably not. And they the same towards you. Nobody cares how you eat or walk and we will all die one day. Just think about that next time you hear laughing and think it's about you.
Jack Cooper
> women Thank god Veeky Forums turned me gay and I don't have to deal with this anymore.
Lucas Brown
That's the logical next step for people like us, turning gay so we can at least experience some form of pleasure people get from having sex with each other.
Also, I'm sick the the meme of being born gay, that's total nonsense. Most people become gay, whether it's because they're failed heterosexuals, mentally ill, have autism, were bullied by their peers as a kid. That shit all plays a big roll in whether someone becomes gay or not.
Is it just a coincidence that most kids that were bullied a lot or were total betas as kid turn out to be devious faggots and sex deviants as adults?
Parker Wright
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William Hughes
When you accomplish this, you won't need Veeky Forums anymore.
>tfw we are all still here...
Henry Perez
>When the guy sounds just like you
Nicholas Price
I suck at every sport The worst hand-eye coordination, and the worst cardio
Now what fampai
Sebastian Gray
Maybe you're gay and just dont realize it
Joshua Edwards
Not even Ultimate Frisbee?
Robert Smith
Isnt that touch football with frisbees? I'd need hand eye coordination for it, and cardio
Nicholas Evans
>gays aren't emotional assholes
yeah break through that queer la-di-da facade and they just as bitchy as women
