Do some research into losing weight and lifting

>do some research into losing weight and lifting
>Veeky Forums says keto is a meme but reddit says it works
>trust Veeky Forums and do simple calories in calories out 600 cal deficit for 5 weeks
>go from 210lbs to 200lbs
>decide to do keto for the next 5 weeks same 600 cal deficit
>go from 200 to 185

YOU RETARDS TOLD ME KETO WAS A MEME WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME

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muscle glycogen storage

you've lost more of that then fat

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Here, everything is a meme

keto made you go stricter on the diet

>listening to Veeky Forums

you realize the majority here have been lifting for a year or less, right? we didn't have those polls for nothing, you know

There are some really smart people here and you can have a great conversation occasionally but for the most part it's a bunch of teenagers who just started lifting parroting other shit they have read online with no real clue. If you know what you are doing you can ignore all the bs but if you are a beginner it can be confusing as hell.

Apparently everything is a meme around here. I got into an argument with a guy saying fruit and sweet potatoes were a meme because it had sugar in it.

If keto helps you lose weight go for it.

what polls?

If you even slightly care about your health keto ia a big no.

>you guys told me forcing my body into an unnatural state was a meme
>this unnatural state starving for carbs is working

What did you expect exactly? For it to not work? It just seems potentially damaging for your body and harder work when you're already doing a cut.

If you're losing weight than there's no need to switch. If you want to lose faster and do the hardest cut imaginable (besides retarded 1200 cals a day and shit) then you do keto.

we had some polls on experience, max bench, squat and dl. basically the majority of Veeky Forums has been lifting for a year or less, can squat/bench less than 2plate, dl less than 3plate. basically don't take advice from anyone here if you don't have much lifting experience. you won't be able to sort out the memes from the good advice

>He fell for the "he fell for the meme" meme

>under 1200 cal
>veggies/fruits/stuff

Don't compare yourself to me. I'm trying to do 1200 the healthiest way possible with clean foods and lots of protein. You're a sugar hound if your diet is a majority FRUITS.

This is what's wrong with it

People are eating at over a 1000 cal def on their first cut and thinking they will stick with it.

What I meant by "1200" cals is retarded amounts lower that you know you will fail because you have no willpower to continue. It's just that 1200 is the most common number people throw around (as evidenced by people getting mad that I dare say that). Hell that guy who was eating 4 boxes of oats a day was on "1200" cals. It's the magic number of huge calorie cuts that people can't maintain. I could have just as easily said 300 or 600 like I saw someone suggesting today, but 1200 is the magic number that seems to stand for any huge cut.

To reiterate. There's nothing wrong with 1200 if you can maintain it, or it's what you should be using. It's just that most of these "get fit quick" schemes fall around that number even if there's zero way they can manage that.

Like this 255 pound guy here. It won't be long until he falls completely off the wagon

Okay, I'm and the way you said now makes sense. Newbies should probably stick to 500 kcal deficits on their first cut unless they have strong willpower.

This prob m8

Wow calm down, honey!
I am just not eating any meat that doesn't mean I don't try to maintain a balanced diet. And I am eating just around 1200 cal because I don't really have time for more then 3 meals a day and snacks don't really do it for me because i am bearly hungry between my meals. I tried to get more cal into my diet but it somehow didn't felt right and i was again getting tired much faster. But i guess you can also just survive on 1200 cal of chicken or eggs. No need for you to get so upset.

Well I'm not tired and I don't find it hard to stick to, then again I eat a lot of protein (turkey, chicken, etc) so I'm sure that is why I stay full. I'm also not trying to get fit quick, I am changing my lifestyle and eating cleaner.

Didn't mean to come off confrontational, you just shouldn't have fruits be such a huge part of your daily intake (fuckton of sugar, it'll make you fatter if anything) you really should be eating meat.

I'm the 255 guy, i just don't believe when I calculate my TDE I'm burning 4000 a day. It makes no sense why I'd cut eating 3500 a day. I'd rather think I'm 2000 a day eating at a 500-800 calorie deficient. Seems more reasonable.

Yeah. I don't get how people decide that suddenly they can just eat thousands of less cals a day and think they can maintain that for any certain period of time.

They had to work up to eating like a pig, and they have to work up to eating less too. Even maintenance for some might be a hassle, but no, it's straight to "1200".

We're not all going to make it if people want to jump the gun like that.

>muscle glycogen storage
Can be created Ketogenically with protein

Cool story.

Grill here too but I'm like a true womanlette ya 5'1 on a good day. Started out at 163 now down to 136. I took a year fucking around, not being consistent and stepped up my game since March (143lbs). Now I'm planning to be in the lower 130's by June. JUST don't eat as much. I'm also severely depressed so I have to force myself to eat. I drink like 4/5 beers a night as well. So it is possible just basically don't eat for fun only nutrition.

I don't eat meat since I was sixteen years old because of ethical reasons. I was saying to myself i will start to eat meat again once i learn how to hunt for myself. And Cucumbers, Bell Peppers and Tomatoes are also fruits if you put it this way and i am sure they don't really contain that much sugar.

Underated

not her, but you're fucking retarded if you think the sugar in fruit is as bad as refined sugar.

Then why do people listen to trappy? S/he is a twig

>protein

goodbye to your gains m8

Damn youre so heavy at you're height

5-10 of those pounds are water/glycogen weight that will immediately come back on once you stop doing keto.

>FRUIT HAS SUGAR!
>DONT EAT FRUIT!

please dont be this stupid

after those things are depleted, it goes straight for your fat...and your muscles. Mostly fat though.

only fucking retards and faggots listen to trappy

His/her threads are always so fucking packed.

no, it the ketones go straight through the blood brain barrier to keep the brain alive over muscles.

I didn't say don't eat fruit, I said don't have a diet that is mainly fruit. Don't exaggerate my statement to make your argument seem more viable.

there are a lot of retards and faggots here which brings us back to
>listening to Veeky Forums

Listen cunt. Youre the retard who thinks fruit is bad.

That is what I am saying...it can also eat at the muscles for ketones for the brain.

But that is basically how starvation works

first the glycogen reserves, if those are depleted, it goes for the fat reserves, if there arent many of those, it also eats away at the muscle.

Out of all weight loss things, this method is the fastest one, you could literally start losing weight today if you dont eat.

But doing this is not recommended for starting fatties, as their fat reserves are not malleable, the longer fat stays on the body, the less of it will be used for body anti starvation purposes. A fatty starving, may actually die to malnutrition if he tries to do keto.

caloric deficit, above 50% is safer.

Yeah. I got down to about 110 when I was training hard for 10k's about 6 years ago. Weight crept up and I got injured and had to quit running. I am very heavy for my size. I'd post progress but I feel like it's useless since still heavy af.

Do it.

Alright what the hell do I care. Here's 163

Wasn't taking stuff seriously but still "trying".

That's progress

Sometime around the end of Feb. Like 143 I wanna say.

Now I'm to 136 but I don't have any pictures because I'm depressed and stuff. Like working out is the only thing I have at this point and I have to mke myself eat because I can't finish workouts without food I noticed. Like I said I just basically eat for nutrition now it sucks

Yo, what the fuck? You're gonna make it. And non-of that LONDON shit. Keep it up.

Thank you

LEARN TO FUCKING COOK FUCKING HELL FUCK FUCK FUCK WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS TO THEMSELVES

It's entirely possible to eat flavorful shit and not eat like a fucking rabbit or dog.

Take some time to learn some healthy cooking variations.

amazon.com/Shredded-Chef-Building-Cookbook-Bodybuilding-ebook/dp/B007FW0PI8

This shit works pretty good.

I'm confused about why you are screenshotting photos you already have

nutrition is still allowed to be tasty, expand your skills. learning something new might help with the depression, anyway.

good progress, keep it up

Some are on JEFIT some are in gallery and I can't find the JEFIT ones in my gallery and I didn't care to search harder. Sorry.

Yeah I should have a shoet work day and I've already scheduled an appointment with a Muay Thay/MMA place. My brother is big into fighting and says that it combines learning with physical activity so it feels like your doing something. I'm gonna suck but like I said, checking out some places for free since have a short work day.

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grills dont want neckbeards hunting them down

It's those beers man, drinking is killer. My excessive drinking makes for a very slow cut.

>Can be created Ketogenically with protein

You barely produce enough to keep your brain working in ketosis. If you produced enough glucose to refill your glycogen stores, you wouldn't be in ketosis.

Imagine being that thirsty

sounds good, thai boxing builds great bodies and depending on your trainer there can be an interesting spiritual/inner learning side to it as well.

best of luck, great progress so far.

> "the longer fat stays on the body, the less of it will be used for body anti starvation purposes."

Please show me a scientific source that isn't a blog or google.

Report frogposters.

say bye to your gains.

KETOSIS = TOE KISS

You do know keto is just a codeword for foot fetishists right? You're not supposed to actually give up carbs - thought that would have been obvious desu.

I cook very well. It's just that I have to make myself eat. And I'm so sad that no amount of seasonings and garlic make food taste good so whatever. This shit sucks.

you fucking dense retard, its a god damn 5 lbs difference, you could get that from drinking 2 glasses less than you should a day.

I'm always curious, why girls have so many notifications on their phones? I see this on almost all my friends' phones. I also know for a fact it's not all thirsty dudes messaging them since a lot of them are app notifications.

Do women just not know how to turn them off? Do they feel important with them on? Are girls really just so busy they can't find time to clear them?

I don't get it tbqhfamaliairitise

Haha I know how to do clear them. It drives my work buddies crazy when they see my phone. Idk I'm just leave them there they don't bother me.

Why is sugar so bad? It's just about 20 cals a cube...

> For anti-starvation purposes

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHH

That's not the reason you fucking idiot. Metabolizing fat is a process that you can condition yourself to be more efficient at, just like every other process your body does. If they've spent their entire life in a calorie surplus, their body is going to be bad at metabolizing body fat.
Also, starvation ketosis is a whole different world from nutritional ketotsis. You're a fucking retard.

right?

sweets are for children

I'd say you're more like AG at the moment, on your way to AU though.

Apparently they don't even notice them.

For real though, when I see my gf putting stevia in her tea instead of one or two sugars I don't get it.
It's not like 40 calories more or less will drastically change your results...

>mad at notifications

do research on your own and from multiple sources. build an excel table to keep track of your shit, do different diets to compare the benefits and cons of one another.

above all don't listen to the retards to this site which include me.

Are you kidding me

Women are oblivious to things. Just spend time watching them be dense. Its starts out as lulz and becomes real sad, real fast.

40 calories a day
280 a week
14560 a year

if its truly worth that for sugar in your tea than more power too you. 0 calorie sweetners are just a cheat way that doesn't break you from the addiction to sweetness

I only care if they're on the top bar, because thats where I go to see my actually important notifications

iPhones don't use the top bar tho right

keto is fine if you are a landwhale like if you are not a landwhale you are just losing water.

keto sheds fat like no other diet around. but its really hard to keep strength and muscle with keto but its def possible.

I know that feel

It's true. But they probably think the same about us. They probably watch us and think jesus christ men are so oblivious... Especially when it comes to social situations or understanding feelings/hints/mindreading.

They have different priorities. So naturally we are gonna think the things we prioritize and pay attention to are more important. And the stuff they do isn't worth thinking about and doesn't count.

We think it's stupid how they always be banging their arms off doors or tripping over things that aren't there. But they think we're stupid for not knowing that so-n-so is having a hard time because blah-d-blah and how to make them feel better about it.

CMOONNN! Whatever it takes to be objective bro 5 scoops of nootropics cmon

Thanks. My brother looks leaner than he ever has and got down to his middle school weight when he was training for a smoker fight and is still going strong. Really motivated me. As far as keto goes I've been listening to a nutrition book and you need complex carbohydrates for your brain to function. I don't know how you ketofags manage without carbs. Do you get used to it?

You can eat good food if you learn how to use some spices. Eat some Indian or Asian food. That shit is full of flavour usually and anything with cooked onions is awesome. There's millions of recipes online.

kek

I cook well I'm just depressed. Food doesn't taste good anymore. Don't know what it is. But I can't finish workouts without food so I have to make myself eat.

>Gossiping
>Spacial awareness
>The same

I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I get what you're saying, but only women and fatties seem to have tunnel vision all of the time. I could find all that non sense about about so and so, but I also don't care.

The difference is I'm aware that I don't care and I'm aware it exists.

>keto sheds fat like no other diet around.
no, it sheds fat at the same rate as other diets with the same amount of calories. this has been studied.

Everyone wants to bang that sweet trap ass so they feed him attention.