>do some research into losing weight and lifting >Veeky Forums says keto is a meme but reddit says it works >trust Veeky Forums and do simple calories in calories out 600 cal deficit for 5 weeks >go from 210lbs to 200lbs >decide to do keto for the next 5 weeks same 600 cal deficit >go from 200 to 185
YOU RETARDS TOLD ME KETO WAS A MEME WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME
you realize the majority here have been lifting for a year or less, right? we didn't have those polls for nothing, you know
Benjamin Gomez
There are some really smart people here and you can have a great conversation occasionally but for the most part it's a bunch of teenagers who just started lifting parroting other shit they have read online with no real clue. If you know what you are doing you can ignore all the bs but if you are a beginner it can be confusing as hell.
Apparently everything is a meme around here. I got into an argument with a guy saying fruit and sweet potatoes were a meme because it had sugar in it.
If keto helps you lose weight go for it.
Nathaniel Robinson
what polls?
John Harris
If you even slightly care about your health keto ia a big no.
Caleb Powell
>you guys told me forcing my body into an unnatural state was a meme >this unnatural state starving for carbs is working
What did you expect exactly? For it to not work? It just seems potentially damaging for your body and harder work when you're already doing a cut.
If you're losing weight than there's no need to switch. If you want to lose faster and do the hardest cut imaginable (besides retarded 1200 cals a day and shit) then you do keto.
Carson Price
we had some polls on experience, max bench, squat and dl. basically the majority of Veeky Forums has been lifting for a year or less, can squat/bench less than 2plate, dl less than 3plate. basically don't take advice from anyone here if you don't have much lifting experience. you won't be able to sort out the memes from the good advice
Tyler Jenkins
What is wrong with 1200 cal a day? I am curious. I am a 5'6 gril weighing 161 pounds, I'mI'm trying to lose weight and I've been doing 1200 cal a day with my macros at 50% protein. Ive lost 8 lbs so far (it has been almost 3 weeks)
Jackson Lopez
I'm a 255 pound male, and I'm eating 1200 a day. What's wrong with it? Aside from the fact I'm fucking tired as shit lol
Hunter Hill
I'm not tired as shit... maybe because I'm a smaller person? Strange
Jackson Rivera
Here's the rule of thumb, never listen to Veeky Forums.
What I mean by this is, even if Veeky Forums tells you to do one thing and then tells you to do the opposite never formulate your decisions based on Veeky Forums alone.
So out and find your own information.
Lucas Lewis
Oh, fuck off shitter. I've cut twice on 1300-1400kcal. First time I lost 16kg in 3 months, the second time 20kg in 3.5 months. I have a 1400 total currently. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that if you get enough protein and fat in.
Evan Jackson
What's wrong is that it eats your muscles Slow decline in bodyweight while putting load on muscles regularly is how you get lean, because the body will focus on fat.
If you eat nothing the body will just go ham on everything, and you can't train enough to compensate for it.
Ian Phillips
I am also a grill (145,5 pounds) and even eating less then 1200 cal and desu i am feeling so much more awake and can concentrate a lot better than like i did half a year ago where i ate like 2200 cal a day. But maybe it's just the change in my overall life style. Back then i was just eating Pizza, Fries, Chips and stuff like this while today my diet consits of like 90% veggies/fruits/stuff
Brody Rogers
You like stuff? I like stuff London?
Jason Evans
Yeah eating stuff i the right way to gain a perfect body... You should try it sometime!
Joshua Gonzalez
No, but I have relatives there!
Noah Ramirez
>He fell for the "he fell for the meme" meme
Christopher Perry
>under 1200 cal >veggies/fruits/stuff
Don't compare yourself to me. I'm trying to do 1200 the healthiest way possible with clean foods and lots of protein. You're a sugar hound if your diet is a majority FRUITS.
Tyler Sanchez
This is what's wrong with it
People are eating at over a 1000 cal def on their first cut and thinking they will stick with it.
What I meant by "1200" cals is retarded amounts lower that you know you will fail because you have no willpower to continue. It's just that 1200 is the most common number people throw around (as evidenced by people getting mad that I dare say that). Hell that guy who was eating 4 boxes of oats a day was on "1200" cals. It's the magic number of huge calorie cuts that people can't maintain. I could have just as easily said 300 or 600 like I saw someone suggesting today, but 1200 is the magic number that seems to stand for any huge cut.
To reiterate. There's nothing wrong with 1200 if you can maintain it, or it's what you should be using. It's just that most of these "get fit quick" schemes fall around that number even if there's zero way they can manage that.
Like this 255 pound guy here. It won't be long until he falls completely off the wagon
Isaiah Jackson
Okay, I'm and the way you said now makes sense. Newbies should probably stick to 500 kcal deficits on their first cut unless they have strong willpower.
Owen Powell
This prob m8
Luke Cook
Wow calm down, honey! I am just not eating any meat that doesn't mean I don't try to maintain a balanced diet. And I am eating just around 1200 cal because I don't really have time for more then 3 meals a day and snacks don't really do it for me because i am bearly hungry between my meals. I tried to get more cal into my diet but it somehow didn't felt right and i was again getting tired much faster. But i guess you can also just survive on 1200 cal of chicken or eggs. No need for you to get so upset.
Easton Kelly
Well I'm not tired and I don't find it hard to stick to, then again I eat a lot of protein (turkey, chicken, etc) so I'm sure that is why I stay full. I'm also not trying to get fit quick, I am changing my lifestyle and eating cleaner.
Nicholas Martin
Didn't mean to come off confrontational, you just shouldn't have fruits be such a huge part of your daily intake (fuckton of sugar, it'll make you fatter if anything) you really should be eating meat.
Ryder Rivera
I'm the 255 guy, i just don't believe when I calculate my TDE I'm burning 4000 a day. It makes no sense why I'd cut eating 3500 a day. I'd rather think I'm 2000 a day eating at a 500-800 calorie deficient. Seems more reasonable.
John Foster
Yeah. I don't get how people decide that suddenly they can just eat thousands of less cals a day and think they can maintain that for any certain period of time.
They had to work up to eating like a pig, and they have to work up to eating less too. Even maintenance for some might be a hassle, but no, it's straight to "1200".
We're not all going to make it if people want to jump the gun like that.
Jayden Bell
>muscle glycogen storage Can be created Ketogenically with protein
Cool story.
Lucas Ramirez
Grill here too but I'm like a true womanlette ya 5'1 on a good day. Started out at 163 now down to 136. I took a year fucking around, not being consistent and stepped up my game since March (143lbs). Now I'm planning to be in the lower 130's by June. JUST don't eat as much. I'm also severely depressed so I have to force myself to eat. I drink like 4/5 beers a night as well. So it is possible just basically don't eat for fun only nutrition.
Samuel Price
I don't eat meat since I was sixteen years old because of ethical reasons. I was saying to myself i will start to eat meat again once i learn how to hunt for myself. And Cucumbers, Bell Peppers and Tomatoes are also fruits if you put it this way and i am sure they don't really contain that much sugar.
Carter Garcia
Underated
Joseph Howard
not her, but you're fucking retarded if you think the sugar in fruit is as bad as refined sugar.
Zachary Rivera
Then why do people listen to trappy? S/he is a twig
Levi Foster
>protein
goodbye to your gains m8
Brayden Cook
Damn youre so heavy at you're height
Nathan Gonzalez
5-10 of those pounds are water/glycogen weight that will immediately come back on once you stop doing keto.
Kevin Sullivan
>FRUIT HAS SUGAR! >DONT EAT FRUIT!
please dont be this stupid
Nolan Ortiz
after those things are depleted, it goes straight for your fat...and your muscles. Mostly fat though.
Robert Ward
only fucking retards and faggots listen to trappy
Sebastian Johnson
His/her threads are always so fucking packed.
Sebastian Wood
no, it the ketones go straight through the blood brain barrier to keep the brain alive over muscles.
Dominic Parker
I didn't say don't eat fruit, I said don't have a diet that is mainly fruit. Don't exaggerate my statement to make your argument seem more viable.
Daniel Hall
there are a lot of retards and faggots here which brings us back to >listening to Veeky Forums
Chase Jenkins
Listen cunt. Youre the retard who thinks fruit is bad.
Connor Martinez
That is what I am saying...it can also eat at the muscles for ketones for the brain.
But that is basically how starvation works
first the glycogen reserves, if those are depleted, it goes for the fat reserves, if there arent many of those, it also eats away at the muscle.
Out of all weight loss things, this method is the fastest one, you could literally start losing weight today if you dont eat.
But doing this is not recommended for starting fatties, as their fat reserves are not malleable, the longer fat stays on the body, the less of it will be used for body anti starvation purposes. A fatty starving, may actually die to malnutrition if he tries to do keto.
caloric deficit, above 50% is safer.
Parker Miller
Yeah. I got down to about 110 when I was training hard for 10k's about 6 years ago. Weight crept up and I got injured and had to quit running. I am very heavy for my size. I'd post progress but I feel like it's useless since still heavy af.
Brody Nelson
Do it.
Xavier Miller
Alright what the hell do I care. Here's 163
Jose Wood
Wasn't taking stuff seriously but still "trying".
Carter Butler
That's progress
Dominic Powell
Sometime around the end of Feb. Like 143 I wanna say.
Elijah Wright
Now I'm to 136 but I don't have any pictures because I'm depressed and stuff. Like working out is the only thing I have at this point and I have to mke myself eat because I can't finish workouts without food I noticed. Like I said I just basically eat for nutrition now it sucks
Hunter Jenkins
Yo, what the fuck? You're gonna make it. And non-of that LONDON shit. Keep it up.
Brody Rodriguez
Thank you
Justin Phillips
LEARN TO FUCKING COOK FUCKING HELL FUCK FUCK FUCK WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS TO THEMSELVES
It's entirely possible to eat flavorful shit and not eat like a fucking rabbit or dog.
Take some time to learn some healthy cooking variations.
I'm confused about why you are screenshotting photos you already have
Dylan Parker
nutrition is still allowed to be tasty, expand your skills. learning something new might help with the depression, anyway.
Andrew Allen
good progress, keep it up
Tyler Jenkins
Some are on JEFIT some are in gallery and I can't find the JEFIT ones in my gallery and I didn't care to search harder. Sorry.
Evan Reed
Yeah I should have a shoet work day and I've already scheduled an appointment with a Muay Thay/MMA place. My brother is big into fighting and says that it combines learning with physical activity so it feels like your doing something. I'm gonna suck but like I said, checking out some places for free since have a short work day.
Bentley Evans
take away geolocation on base photo
grills dont want neckbeards hunting them down
Grayson Edwards
It's those beers man, drinking is killer. My excessive drinking makes for a very slow cut.
Charles Cox
>Can be created Ketogenically with protein
You barely produce enough to keep your brain working in ketosis. If you produced enough glucose to refill your glycogen stores, you wouldn't be in ketosis.
Isaiah Hill
Imagine being that thirsty
Cooper Thompson
sounds good, thai boxing builds great bodies and depending on your trainer there can be an interesting spiritual/inner learning side to it as well.
best of luck, great progress so far.
Landon Perry
> "the longer fat stays on the body, the less of it will be used for body anti starvation purposes."
Please show me a scientific source that isn't a blog or google.
Noah Jackson
Report frogposters.
Landon Bell
say bye to your gains.
Grayson Torres
KETOSIS = TOE KISS
You do know keto is just a codeword for foot fetishists right? You're not supposed to actually give up carbs - thought that would have been obvious desu.
Bentley Gonzalez
I cook very well. It's just that I have to make myself eat. And I'm so sad that no amount of seasonings and garlic make food taste good so whatever. This shit sucks.
Zachary Wilson
you fucking dense retard, its a god damn 5 lbs difference, you could get that from drinking 2 glasses less than you should a day.
James Richardson
I'm always curious, why girls have so many notifications on their phones? I see this on almost all my friends' phones. I also know for a fact it's not all thirsty dudes messaging them since a lot of them are app notifications.
Do women just not know how to turn them off? Do they feel important with them on? Are girls really just so busy they can't find time to clear them?
I don't get it tbqhfamaliairitise
Noah Nelson
Haha I know how to do clear them. It drives my work buddies crazy when they see my phone. Idk I'm just leave them there they don't bother me.
Henry Gonzalez
Why is sugar so bad? It's just about 20 cals a cube...
Justin Davis
> For anti-starvation purposes
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHH
That's not the reason you fucking idiot. Metabolizing fat is a process that you can condition yourself to be more efficient at, just like every other process your body does. If they've spent their entire life in a calorie surplus, their body is going to be bad at metabolizing body fat. Also, starvation ketosis is a whole different world from nutritional ketotsis. You're a fucking retard.
Thomas Robinson
right?
Justin Reed
sweets are for children
David Carter
I'd say you're more like AG at the moment, on your way to AU though.
Connor Nguyen
Apparently they don't even notice them.
Carson Watson
For real though, when I see my gf putting stevia in her tea instead of one or two sugars I don't get it. It's not like 40 calories more or less will drastically change your results...
Jace Ross
>mad at notifications
James Fisher
do research on your own and from multiple sources. build an excel table to keep track of your shit, do different diets to compare the benefits and cons of one another.
above all don't listen to the retards to this site which include me.
Brayden Hall
Are you kidding me
Sebastian Baker
Women are oblivious to things. Just spend time watching them be dense. Its starts out as lulz and becomes real sad, real fast.
Kevin Moore
40 calories a day 280 a week 14560 a year
if its truly worth that for sugar in your tea than more power too you. 0 calorie sweetners are just a cheat way that doesn't break you from the addiction to sweetness
Aaron Rivera
I only care if they're on the top bar, because thats where I go to see my actually important notifications
iPhones don't use the top bar tho right
Samuel Sanders
keto is fine if you are a landwhale like if you are not a landwhale you are just losing water.
Anthony Anderson
keto sheds fat like no other diet around. but its really hard to keep strength and muscle with keto but its def possible.
Carson Campbell
I know that feel
Andrew Diaz
It's true. But they probably think the same about us. They probably watch us and think jesus christ men are so oblivious... Especially when it comes to social situations or understanding feelings/hints/mindreading.
They have different priorities. So naturally we are gonna think the things we prioritize and pay attention to are more important. And the stuff they do isn't worth thinking about and doesn't count.
We think it's stupid how they always be banging their arms off doors or tripping over things that aren't there. But they think we're stupid for not knowing that so-n-so is having a hard time because blah-d-blah and how to make them feel better about it.
CMOONNN! Whatever it takes to be objective bro 5 scoops of nootropics cmon
Justin Wilson
Thanks. My brother looks leaner than he ever has and got down to his middle school weight when he was training for a smoker fight and is still going strong. Really motivated me. As far as keto goes I've been listening to a nutrition book and you need complex carbohydrates for your brain to function. I don't know how you ketofags manage without carbs. Do you get used to it?
Brody Parker
You can eat good food if you learn how to use some spices. Eat some Indian or Asian food. That shit is full of flavour usually and anything with cooked onions is awesome. There's millions of recipes online.
Oliver Green
kek
Levi Cruz
I cook well I'm just depressed. Food doesn't taste good anymore. Don't know what it is. But I can't finish workouts without food so I have to make myself eat.
Nolan Martin
>Gossiping >Spacial awareness >The same
I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I get what you're saying, but only women and fatties seem to have tunnel vision all of the time. I could find all that non sense about about so and so, but I also don't care.
The difference is I'm aware that I don't care and I'm aware it exists.
Jonathan Clark
>keto sheds fat like no other diet around. no, it sheds fat at the same rate as other diets with the same amount of calories. this has been studied.
Alexander King
Everyone wants to bang that sweet trap ass so they feed him attention.