If you are not going to roid, is there any reason to supplement with anything besides whey/multi/fish oil/creatine ?

If you are not going to roid, is there any reason to supplement with anything besides whey/multi/fish oil/creatine ?

You forgot caffeine.
No, there's no need to spend money on "testosterone boosters" or other expensive things.

It is better to avoid caffeine and only use it when you ~really~ need a mental boost, in my honest opinion, so your body won't get used to it.

Either way, if you overdid it, it's not too hard to get rid of caffeine insensitivity by just abstaining for a few days.

imho zinc and d3 are important as fuck

You got a greater problems if you are not getting those from a multi and a lifter diet.

I wish i could take creatine. Can you tell a difference when you are using it ?

ehh, I have two 30 oz cups a day for like 3 years now and I still get a good kick from it.
And I feel fine if I can't have it for some reason.
Abuse potential is very low.
I don't consider whey a "supplement" because protein is a macro nutrient. There is truly no point to lifting beyond the first 4 to 6 months if you have inadequate protein.
Creatine is not really worth your time.
Multi vitamins don't give micros nearly as good as food. Get a green veggi, berries and mix around carrots and other junk to get your micros.
If I understand correctly, you can kinda stock pile micros and therefore don't need big doses of them every single day like macros but that's just in a very general sense.
I'd make sure your protein/fat/carb/sugar balance is tight before worrying about micros at all.

It is not about the abuse potential, m8, I used to consume caffeine daily, but after taking a break for over an year, and consuming it again, I noticed that the effects were much, much stronger than when I was using it constantly - plus, I slept and rested bettter without it.

Faster recovery time between sets and permanent loss of hair due to the elevated DHT levels

I drink plenty of coffee before a workout to get a nice buzz going. Otherwise I don't touch the stuff. It hasn't lost the effect but if it does I'll just abstain from it for a couple of months.

Seeds, nuts, meat, chicken and beans have zinc in them. D3 is a good supplement if you live in the north, I get no sunlight at all. The sun rises at 10 am and settles after 3 pm, I spend that time at work.

I noticed that I wasn't as exhausted during the last reps when I work out. It was nice but not worth the price of creatine if you ask me.
I also had some wild dreams which was fun.

I take Pycnogenol and L-Citrulline because it makes my dick diamonds and keeps my heart healthy

Can´t you somehow counter using creatine so it doesn´t make you bald ? Is such a thing possible ?

No, creatine elevates DHT levels.

Fuck. Anything else i should probably avoid ?

Women.

They make you go bald ? Fucking bitches, why are they doing that ?

So you will become less attractive, leaving them with less competition and you more likely to impregnate them.

How do we stop this ?

Shave your heard often and in secret so they will think that you are already bad and won't use their demoniac powers on your scalp.

You are missing my point, i don´t want to be bald.

What other supplements are there?

Literally thousands

What sort of shit do you want done?

Cut your balls off so you don't synthesise DHT