I used to be just insecure with how skinny I am, but recently I've become disgusted by it. I'm determined to bulk the fuck up.
If I eat 5,000-6,000 calories a day (easily doable with liquid calories), how much mass could I expect to gain in two months whilst doing SS?
Also, I'm considering taking MK677 for its supposed appetite increasing affects. Is this a good idea? What other easily attainable drugs could increase my appetite (besides weed)?
Josiah Jones
>If I eat 5,000-6,000 calories a day
Yeah, have realistic goals. 3k is enough for you. You won't even be able to stuff 5k calories into your face everyday
Matthew Powell
Why the fuck not? I've yet to try it, but simply spreading my meals apart + snacking + liquid calories I could hit 5,000
3,000 is easy for me, but I can only maintain the bulk during the holidays. Simply not enough time or energy when I'm at University. I'm planning ahead.
Jaxson Ramirez
>Why the fuck not?
Try it, you won't be able to do it. Plus that it's not wise
Samuel Miller
If 3k is easy for you then you wouldn't be a skelly
Levi Fisher
You will not physically be able to do it. I know 250 lb men who squat over 500 lbs who struggle to eat over 3500. You're living in a dream
Chase Anderson
Alan Thrall did it in highschool and he's big
It was easy for me when I was briefly doing it, I haven't eaten 3k calories in a day since last summer.
Brandon Foster
Kek this
Aaron Richardson
0/10
Dominic Smith
The sticky is good info senpai. As the other dude said 3000 should be fine, for your case I'd reccomend lurking more and reading online forums. We come across shit like this on the daily. Also, protein bud.
Evan Allen
No, you don't.
Luke Cox
>The sticky is good info senpai.
The sticky says that I should be bulking on ~2,500 calories according to its bulking calculator, which is complete bitch mode.
I want to get B I G.
I'm so fucking skinny after a bulk I would only be ''normal''. 3,000 calories isn't going to do shit. I would be the size of actual DYELs who just had normal diets growing up instead of being on a lifelong deficit like me.
Evan Hall
the fuck is going on here, did a quick google on TDE and it came up with 3,3k maintenance
pretty sure i can 5k errday
Cameron Walker
If you had a personal chef who made you six hearty meals a day and drank three gainer shakes a day, 5k could be achievable, but you dont. Not only is eating that much super expensive, but it takes a lot more prep than you think.
Owen Torres
try actually counting calories, you're not eating nearly as much as you think you are. reminds me of people who eat chips and chocolates and chicken tendies and think theyre eating 5k a day top kek
Isaiah Jenkins
3.3k maintenance? yeah maybe if you swim 3 miles a day
Nathaniel Rodriguez
shut the fuck up. do what people tell you to do, you're a beta bitch, if you can eat 5k everyday, fucking do it, stop arguing with people if you want some actual advice >just eat 3k everyday bro, that'll be enough! >NO BUT ACTUALLY i can eat 5k!
Nathaniel Morgan
dude, you can just eat unhealthy fast food. It's really not that hard. Three meals of McDonalds and a few snacks and you're there. 5k is nothing. When I was rowing competitively i would eat twice that easily in a day.
Adrian Sullivan
My local pub serves meals that have 2,000 calories in them, according to the menu.
This isn't even the only option. There's a bunch of other yummy stuff. British pubs are great.
Two dense meals a day + liquid calories + snacking = 5K EASY
Yes it's expensive, but I've nothing else to spend my wageslave money on.
Christopher Kelly
speaking as fellow skelly, I hate to break it to you but you'll never look good, no matter what you eat/lift and you're currently greatly overestimating how much you're capable of eating/lifting you'll always look like shit, we'll always look like shit there's a difference between thin/skinnyfat and skeleton, skeleton is a bodytype, it's for life, there's no way out
Nathan Murphy
this is total bullshit yes, you have a small frame, doesn't mean that you can't gain a bit of weight and pack on muscle, you will not look super awesome, but you can always look better. stop making fucking excuses >manlets never learn
Zachary Richardson
0/10, obvious bitter manlet
Adrian Evans
I'm not a manlet and I actually have a decent frame
Nicholas Watson
>5,000 calories a day? Impossibru!!!!!!! xDD
t. DYEL
Jace Thompson
You're dumb as fuck. You don't need to eat these excessive amounts to gain muscle. You're just going to be 10x fatter than if you bulked properly
Robert Perez
so what's the problem? anyone can look good if they put the effort in (or roids heh) unless you are crippled in some way (spergism doesn't count)
Lucas Jenkins
Bullshit. I gained 13kg of mostly muscle in 2 years of lifting. I look like a respectable male now instead of an auschwitz survivor. Stop projecting your own failures onto others
Evan Richardson
Ayyy lmao
Seriously though, start eating a lot, even get those meal replacement sticks then start don't what you can with the weights, you'll look good in 2 months if you stick to it
Samuel Morgan
lookie here
>cause I was just a skinny 165lbs dude >165lbs again, dropped that's not skeleton, you don't understand what skeleton is
every "transformation" pic I've seen of a supposedly skinny hard gainer "like me" guy has been on the thinner end of average look at the guy in the video even as a skinny guy look at his fucking wrists now look at OP's wrists you think this is a distance you can cover with diet or exercise fuck right off, stop giving skeletons like me false hope I fell for the fit meme for too long and all it did was make me feel shittier by the day inb4 "you didn't eat right/lift right" shut the fuck up
Josiah Lee
yes its bitch mode, but the sticky is designed for bitch mode.
you may act like you're not a bitch, but deep down and physically you are a bitch, OP.
So either start eating and shut the fuck up, or shut the fuck up and GTFO.
Nolan Butler
Then give up, kill yourself or cry in a corner, you think anyone here cares? Youre like a fat bitch claiming shes fat because of genetics
Benjamin Morgan
this is why you will fail. Set your goals to be realistic and start small (lel).
Henry Foster
100g of oatmeal 100g of almonds 2 scoops of protein
Add water and blend Eat 3 times a day
That is like 3300 calories a day and 180g protein, will get you out of auschwitz pretty quick. Just look into the vitamins/minerals you should take with it and drink a lot of water since youll be eating a lot of fiber
Eating 5000 calories a day is stupid
Colton Gomez
Nigga is it all about wrists?
When you're swole the girls will be looking at your chest and triceps not your fucking wrists lmao
Sure my wrists are skinny as fuck now, but who knows how my arms will look after I put some mass on them
Defeatist little bitch, you're never going to make it
Jonathan Flores
KYS
Noah Carter
Trying too hard
>Eating 5000 calories a day is stupid
Why?
Dylan Flores
>Defeatist little bitch, you're never going to make it neither will you and I'm not defeatist, defeatist would be never to try >genetics don't exist
Nathaniel Ortiz
>he thinks chest and arms are what make you look big
A L E X G E T I N H E R E
Julian Brooks
dem nips
William Cox
kek
Jeremiah Sanders
not really
Jaxson Hill
you can do it for a few days, of course, but you wont for long.. trust me, even 3,5k calories a day are hard as fuck to maintain daily for a few months..
try 3-3,5k calories per day.. you will gain weight really fast! like 20 pounds in 3 month, thats realistic and its worth it
>easily doable with liquid calories nope, its not as easy as you think, even with shakes its hard to hit 5-6k calories a day.. because you can't drink 3 shakes a day for a long period of time, your body/brain will show you..
Alexander Mitchell
there's no such thing as hard gainer you're just a pathetic cunt who needs to leave, getting Veeky Forums is not for everybody.
Leo Murphy
>Simply not enough time or energy when I'm at University. I'm planning ahead.
not enough time to maintain 3k, but aiming at 5-6k..
nope. unless you are a fatty, eating that amount of food is like a fulltime job
Ethan Richardson
Thats not the point, the point is that people like you, just like the fat bitches, use genetics as an excuse to why you will never look good. Ugh Im done with you, you will look shit forever. Not because of genetics but because of your shit attitude
Dominic Fisher
I'm not going to be cooking any of it myself besides maybe eggs or pasta
I don't foresee myself ever being one of those people who cooks 5 days of chicken and broccoli every sunday
Noah Gonzalez
a little less than 60 pounds, you'd be lucky if 20% of it is muscle.
Daniel Martinez
>and I'm not defeatist, defeatist would be never to tr
and for how long did you try? Month? Week?
Robert Cox
Are you actually retarded? Eating 5000 calories wont all go to your muscles you dumb fuck. About half of them are going to turn into fat. You're not fucking huge or anyhting so you dont need a billion calories to bulk
Wyatt Clark
pls
Xavier Carter
lol this was the pic i was looking for
Luis Davis
Fucking checked.
This. You better be doing a fuck ton of swimming if you are going to eat 3.5k I'm assuming with GOMAD and not become a fat piece of shit with a ton of gross stretch marks.
Aaron Gonzalez
Actually true. I used to be like that before I started lifting and tracking my calories. Thought I ate alot, but turned out it was only like 1500 kcal topkek
Aaron Thomas
you got real fat mate
Matthew Hernandez
6 years I'm not gonna say I always did it properly but I have consistently been putting a significant amount of effort and dedicating a significant amount of my time on exercise and overeating for about that time, with little to no results no, I'm just saying you should stop pretending the playing field is even when it's more like dropping eggs from a balcony
Liam Clark
Yeah... except I'm actually counting calories, but well meme'd
Jackson Hernandez
6 years with little to no results? Nigga I hate to be this guy. But you definitely did something wrong then. Even the skelliest of skellies can make at least 10kg of muscle gains within 2 years even
Jaxson Reed
>6 years >no results Then what the fuck did you do? Your lifts didn't improve at all? Your mass or body composition didn't change at all? I need more details on your routine and diet because I can't belive that.
Xavier Howard
>lifting and bulking >finally hit 185 for the first time in a long time >injure shoulder in a subway fuck up >take 1.5 months off >stop eating as much >eating probably half of maintenance >weigh self >168
>mfw
Nathan James
He's just a shitposter, probably hasn't lifted a weight in his life, just decided to shitpost in my thread instead of doing his geography homework or something
Hunter Perez
and also got way more pussy and exceeded 1/2/3/4.... but yeah keep thinking being shredded and weak is the only way
Michael Bell
checking in
Nolan Brooks
westballz..?
Jace Rogers
Wesbawz
Henry Myers
>b-b-b-but ur gonna get fat!
So? I'm already starving African tier. At my height fat doesn't matter.
Parker Johnson
if you was counting correctly and counted your maintenance correctly then +500, you would gain weight if you followed it consistently.
you're counting wrong retard, maybe you put down 300g of chips when you actually eat 120g of chips, who knows????
Aaron Nelson
bumppppp
Colton Morris
There's a limit to how much muscle you can add in a day. Eating 50k calories doesnt mean you gain any more muscle .
Just eat 2800 if you're being honest about your height and weight. Anything more and you'll be at 20% bf in no time
Jaxson Powell
>here's a limit to how much muscle you can add in a day. Not OP, but what is the limit? Assuming I'm exercising and eating properly.
I'm 73kg at 180cm if it helps. (~160 lbs, 5'11'' )
Luis Wilson
not OP but a 130lbs skelly at 5'8 here, i eat 4000calories a day and still struggle to gain weight due to turbo metabolism, although im gaining about 1pound a month its barely anything considering what i eat. so OP is probably not bullshitting i can eat 5000calories aswell lol but it would be hard to maintain it
Dylan Peterson
~1-1,5 kg a month, max
Cameron Carter
Don't only concern yourself with calories, you need proteins an intake of 130g per day or 1lb per gram will help you gain mass.Dont try to get too big too fast or you'll fail like another user did and get fat.