I want to train my masculinity

Don't take cold showers. Low temperatures kills gains. There's a study somewhere that I'm to lazy to look up

Listen to Jocko Podcast.
Start training a martial art.

What's a good way to listen to podcasts anyway? I really gotta get into that shit.

sound waves vibrate the eardrum and your brain converts that into understandable information

honsetly?
just get good with girls.

why?
becuase woman are (usually) attracted to masculinity, by getting good with girls not only will your testosterone rise and all this chemical shit, but to attract them in the first place you'll have to be more masculine.

Also some general things:
Sleep well, eat well, respect your body, be well informed about the opinions to hold and be willing to stand to your point (im not saying be a fuckin meninst and tell feminists how oppressed you are), work on your posture, read, dont care about others opinions, do what you like and stand up for it, dont compromise yourself, dont do things because you are hoping that other people are going to like you for it (in a way for example to agree with a girls shitty music taste hoping to get laid), go out and talk to strangers, stop beeing egocentric, have an open mind but at the same time defend points, be build habbits that benefit you in the long term, dont care about rejection...

shitty grammar yeye i know

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App/website/seeder/etc. I was looking for the best way to get good podcasts in general not just about picking up women

I am trying to behavioral condition myself to notice when I laugh at some stupid shit posted on Veeky Forums

I still laugh at memes and baneposting and this is extremely feminine
I need to see the meme and the humor and accept it but also not react to it like laughing or getting this really gay giggling kind of feeling when seeing it

This is the actual answer.
> Take on responsibility (wife, kids, job).
> Realize that your wife is impossibly selfish and literally cannot help it because women are a meme.
> Support her anyway because you vowed to; gave your word as a man.
> Realize your children are impossibly selfish because they are young and shortsighted.
> Support them anyway because you brought them into the world.
> Realize job is crushing your dreams.
> Realize job is crushing your soul.
> Realize that the idea of working hard enough to ever be able to afford to pursue your passion is going to be impossible. Even more so w/the parasites that are your wife and kids.
> Push through dreary awful days any way you can. Pursing the image of a decent life. Because you are a man, and you said you would.
> Die.
> Wife says you never spent enough time with her.
> Kids say they barely knew their dad.

Life is suffering. Being a man is about not giving up or bowing out, but instead being something or someone the next generation can build off of.

How the fuck is laughing at baneposts feminine? What woman would even register that kind of humor? You lads are going to give yourselves a mental illness fretting constantly over whether your every move makes you a numale, I swear

porn is because it tricks your brain into thinking you get tons of women, while you get none

if you stop tricking your brain, it will help you get women

trust me im addicted to porn too, i want to stop so bad but i keep relapsing

Most podcasts usually have their own websites/soundclouds with download links.

>this thread

>taking advice from a woman hater

dude you're a fucking loser, women and men are both humans, you should respect them as such

you probably get no pussy

yeah well thats all well and good but gives zero knowledge on how to cope with the suffering
men do this but there is something in there where the masculine properties are enhanced by this, some sort of mechanism

because memes are childish
internet humor is for little kids
posting on Veeky Forums or even using the internet for anything besides professional work is for little kids

I am not so fucking stupid to at least realize this
just a hurdle to identify at this point to get over eventually

>no arch super = over pronation
Nibbah , arch super is the number one Jewish trick to weaken your feet .

>blame blame blame
You're the opposite of masculine m8.

how the fuck are baneposts even funny?

they're not.

if you laugh at baneposts then you have deeper problems

whoever made this is very feminine and childish though
its le ironic comedy
no insight, just snark
this is like stephen colbert tier observation/critique

Sorry but that's just part of the equation. I went from autistic virgin to banging at least 40-50 girls (stopped counting)

While I am "the man" around girls I am still a useless, responsibility dodging twat in other areas of my life.

>he doesn't know who made that picture

Of all the men I've admired/considered role models I can't imagine any of them sitting around neurotically refusing to laugh at something if they find it funny. It's great that more young guys are trying to improve themselves but just brute forcing yourself into some scowling dickhead instead of actually building skills and taking on responsibilities won't get you anywhere. It's just fedoralords talking about 'class' all over again but pretending to be some kind of hardass as well.

pocketcast is a decent app.
picking up woman isn't really about just sex.
what you have to realize is that most of your insecurities are about girls, also talking to girls can be tough af and this shit will harden you up

I enjoy reading this shit

>men do this but there is something in there where the masculine properties are enhanced by this, some sort of mechanism

Accepting that you go ONLY by your principle, even if that hurt you in the long run.

I was trying to show that it is just practice. A lot like progression in the gym. If you stop when it hurts, you'll always be DYEL. If you stop when you are done, pushing through discomfort, you'll get stronger and used to the pain, and able to take on more pain.

Think about any old guy (50yrs and up) who you consider manly. They way they rationalize and accept pain is... well. The philosophy seems to be
> "this sucks, and I know this sucks, but I am determined to be here. Because that is what I've decided I will win or die."

>thinks looking at faggoty shit on Veeky Forums and giggling at it is masculine

man you are fucking clueless
think about any sort of genuine role model in your life, you think he would go look at dumb internet shit without a gun to his head?

I don't know a single well adjusted man that uses the internet for anything other than work stuff.

then why are you here?

You

Realy need to

Stop ty
ping like this

nigger

holy fuck you are retarded

she is not a man.

it surely is a great step to start out tho imo, because there is a big motivation-> fucking chicks.
And you will reap alot of other benefits on that journey.
If you still feel like you are lacking in other areas ofc you still gotta make your studies in those. Learn about religions(espacially buddhism and hinduism), learn about mindsets, learn about what makes a human beeing truly happy, think long term but dont live in the future and most importantly desu force yourself into uncomfortable situations

What you're talking about isn't self-reliance or responsibility, it's virtue signalling. You can't become something you're not by going 'look at me I hate the right things'. You're falling into the exact same hole as the people you're reacting against, and even arguing like them already- "oh so you're saying youre in favour of childish things then huh" instead of even bothering to read what was said. It's all a big act.

buddhism and hindusim are extremely feminine
islam and catholicism are masculine
protestantism is the most feminine

>stop watching porn a lot/fapping
>confidence in social situations and people seem to genuinely want to talk to me when around me instead of looking at their phones

Wtf I hate porn and fapping now

Underrated

a zen master would have probably beat you with his stick now

Listen, kid: LEAVE Veeky Forums. NOTHING here is going to help you be more of a man or whatever the fuck it is you think you should be doing. This place is full of faggotry and fail and CRAB MENTALITY that will literally do everything in it's power to hold you back. In fact if you're so goddamned concerned about your 'masculinity' in general then STAY OFF THE INTERNET ENTIRELY because there is nothing 'manly' here at all. GO OUTSIDE INTO THE WORLD AND DO THINGS FOR REAL. That's how adults act.

You're a fucking loser faggot,

This

Good question.

I'd say lifting is number one in terms of building character, simply for the way it changes both your external presentation to the world and your hormonal systems. So, if you lift and lift heavy, your life WILL change in a masculine direction.

I would say that the second thing is to force yourself to confront things you want to avoid out of discomfort and fear. Facing down fears, whatever they may be, is what builds that confidence that gives a 30 year old man an infinite advantage over a 20 year old dude.
If something is difficult and daunting, attack it! At first clumsily because first attempts usually are, then you'll get the hang of it, then finally tou will overcome it and add the battly to your reserves of true inner confidence and self-knowledge.
This applies to fistfights (obligatory), starting businesses, learning skills and a million other manly endeavors.

Buddhism is actually super manly.
A lot of manliness comes from minding your own business. Being one with yourself is not only healthy but let's you stay focused on your ambitions and goals.
Which is attractive as fuck. Nothing is more boring than some weak willed beta male that has nothing to offer but insecurities.

How?

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thats such a dumb thing to ask op, working out will make you look like more of a man but its pretty strange to try and be more masculine by sleeping rough sounds like that would just hurt your back, marcus aurelius was protecting the borders of his country of which he was the patriarch of, youre not that. get into a team sport with other men and when youre talking speak directly, that doesnt mean rudely just dont dance around in circles like a woman

>dont care about others opinions, do what you like and stand up for it, dont compromise yourself, dont do things because you are hoping that other people are going to like you for it
That's the opposite if what happens, the guys I know that are good with girls are all extremely socially conscious and care about status very much, they only 'rebel' as far as socially acceptable to seem like a 'bad boy', but none of them have any controversial opinions

Also they're all attractive but not like you can work on that without surgery

yeah thats why I think buddhism is pretty feminine now

masculinity is directly tied with building society, all these things that masquerade as masculine like buddhism, objectivism, libertarian type things are really selfish and not masculine

I think its very important to care about the RIGHT opinions, I think finding those correct opinions actually lies in religion, namely Catholicism

i bet most of those guys where never able to sustain a healthy relationship for more than one year.

I'm not saying that you should have controversial opinions to get laid, but if you do, stay up to it.

Even if girls disagree or are even offended by your opinion, they admire the fact that you stand up for yourself.

Beeing attractive sure helps alot, espacially with initial attraction. What also should be noticed is that attractive guys get alot of affirmation when they approach people so they have a much healthier mindset. To sustain attraction however you need much more that good looks. Girls will go every time for the sociable funny chubby guy instead of the pretty emo kid with shitty body language and that is barely able stutter a word

>buddhism
>selfish
niga the fuck are you even on about?

Advice like this is why I come to Veeky Forums. Every once in a while you find a piece of diamond inside this huge pool of shit. Everyone needs to hear this.

Maybe your just kind of dumb and unaware.
Countless studies have shown more intelligent people laugh less and are generally less happy on average. I cant actually remember the last thing that really made me laugh. Im far from miserable, but life is a tone of gray.
Ignorance is bliss, my man. Don't ruin it for yourself. There are other ways to be a man. Surely conforming and changing who you are fundamentally is NOT something a man would do.

Hell yeah I do, tons of proven benefits contrary to hot showers. Really get you out of your comfort zone my guy

cold showers reduce inflamation and this "kill' gains, but there is nothing wrong with a pre workout cold shower, in fact you should do it

I read half of the book "The Way of Men" by Jack Donovan. Naturally this kind of material is prone to getting a lot of hate on here as it's sexist and rather right-wing, also esoteric and new-agey. But if you dislike that then this here isn't the right thread for you anyway.

It explains a few concepts real well that I struggled to understand when I was younger and that can explain a host of phenomena that occur in social situations involving men.

The main tenet is that the four traditional and still relevant masculine virtues are strength, honour, courage, mastery. These are the qualities men value other men for and, according to the book in extension, women value men for.

So be mentally strong, that means disciplined and resilient, don't be fearful, have a moral codex that you stick to, excel at at least one specific skill.

Read "five marks of a man," by Brian Tome.

fair

buddhism is selfish af

oh, just get good with girls

why didn't i fucking think of that?
/s

how do i get good with girls?
t. 32 year old khv

>Watch RSD on YouTube
>Find a couple cool wingmen on the RSD forums
>Go out a couple night a week, sober
>Push your limits and get progressively better at talking to grills

Also,
>Get fit
>Learn to dress/groom
>Practice vocal projection

>give up everything in your life to find nirvana or else your deeds will be reborn and someone else will have to pay for them
>selfish

pick one

don't you understand with buddhism you're living for someone who hasn't even been born yet?

can you do this without wingmen?

Being this invested in "Improving your masculinity" doesn't sound very masculine itself. You sound like an insecure faggot honestly.

Start by learning how to do small talk. There are books. Not the computer language.

Sure. You can go out with friends, or solo. Solo is harder though, I still feel a bit weird in the beginning of the night when I go out solo.

>trying to improve in *subject* means you're bad at *subject*
You sound like an estrogen filled soyboy desu

>I would say that the second thing is to force yourself to confront things you want to avoid out of discomfort and fear
Absolutely this

1) vote republican
2) secretly have 2 girlfriends
3) gun range Sunday
4) get someone pregant
5) drink whiskey, learn to love it

Forgot pic related, the ultimate male achievement.

Is it too late for me user? I'm a pretty normal masculine man irl but I jerk off to being fucked by futa or me sucking off dominant futa.

Im well adjusted in real life and have many friendships, hobbies, high career goals, and have accomplished a lot

Equal and opposite reaction. Flipside of your coin. Shadow cast by the light.

The pent up impulses you let out this way do not detract from your actual, real deeds and public persona. Anyone who'd say they do is either a juvenile puritanical teenager or an enemy trying to undermine your masculinity.

cold showers are the simplest thing to do but are crazy good

>increased fat burning
>increased testosterone
>quicker recover from exercise (ice bath if you've wrecked yourself in your workout)
>smoother, softer, paler skin
>smoother, softer, lighter hair
>reduce pimples/ acne
>reduce wrinkles (what your face would've looked like at 30 with hot shower will be what your face looks like at 50 with cold shower) (really not fucking with you on this one, there's a reason girls get wrinkles 10x faster than guys, they love their hot showers)
>improve immune system
>clearer head, less migranes and even sometimes gets rid of migranes

when you run hot water all over your body, all the blood rushes from your organs to your skin to cool it down because your skin is literally over heating
>causes acne
>ages skin
>opens pores, removes natural oils from skin
>ages scalp, aging hair too
>less blood in organs (cooling skin down instead)
>less blood in head (makes you light-headed and dizzy)
>reduces testosterone (hot showers weren't common pre-ww2)

when you run cold water over your body, all your blood rushes to your organs to keep them warm because you are actually cold
>cold water closes pores maintaining natural oils, reduces acne, dirt can't get in
this is only good if you don't eat absolute junk all the time, there's no reason to open your pores unless you're guzzling fat and oil
>reduces aging to skin, scalp and hair
>more blood in organs, improving functionality and immune system
>more blood in head, reducing headaches/ migranes. Gives you a clearer head
>cold reduces inflammation, recovering quicker from workouts and reducing likelihood of damage, also recover quicker from injuries (ice baths are good for big injuries)
>less blood at skin, skin becomes very cold, body burns more fat to keep skin and organs (body) warm
>increases testosterone by something crazy

Not to be a /pol/-fag, but Jewish comedy/wit is the opposite of masculine comedy/wit. Stuff like neuroticism and pettiness from someone like Woodie Allen or worship of hedonism or nihilism like Seth Rogen or Dan Harmon are not masculine. Bill Murray is a great example of humor that is generally more masculine. I'd also recommend Norm McDonald.

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it's simple but works crazy well, it's a big set outside your comfort zone but it's worth it. Quickly you'll become comfortable doing something uncomfortable.

Plus cold showers actually feel amazing after the initial cold water shock, set a 4 minute timer, after 2 minutes you'll feel amazing and enjoy every remaining second of it.

Everywhere you're going to have low-test people and (((doctors))) telling you that you shouldn't do it and will encourage hot showers but these are the same people that preach that wacking yourself off 5+ times a day is healthy.

It is uncomfortable I won't lie, I struggled to begin with but I never went back to anything other than cold showers, not once since the first one.

It's uncomfortable but you'll be comfortable with that, stepping beyond the comfort zone for something that's actually good for you.

One more thing is, after a few weeks you'll be craving the cold shower, that 4 minutes under icy cold water, running down your face and body, those 4 minutes you'll be completely thoughtless with a clear head and stepping out more focused, awake and aware than when you stepped in. It's a good feeling.

what about lukewarm showers?

Masteron

I don’t know
Look at nu-males and try not to be like them?
You can be whatever political thing you want to be but don’t let it be your identity

Develop your own conception of masculinty and actualization. If you rely on other's judgements of you you'll always fall short.

>pussing out with lukewarm
no, to be honest you should be going for something as cold as an ice bath (or equivalent shower) everyday

clearly that isn't realistic so settling for cold-tap only showers is the best for less effort.

lukewarm is obviously better than hot but nowhere near as good as cold so why not go the full mile?
>no cold shock
>no blood rushing to organ
>no blood rushing to organs basically means all the other benefits are nil

don't go hot and then slowly lower temperature to cold either, you won't get the cold shock/ blood rush like you would be straight cold

>tl;dr: 4 MINUTE COLD-TAP ONLY SHOWERS
can't do that, probably should come up with a new hobby other than fitness/ health because if you don't have the discipline to take a cold shower on your own freewill everyday, then you're clearly not cut out for this.
Literally the easiest thing you can do to drastically improve your health

d-delet pls

Sounds good, I'll give it a shot. Is it important to do it immediately after working out?

you seem like a big guy

Islam is so hyper masculine that it has all of the negatives of masculinity without many of the positives.

definitely not, probably give yourself a stroke.

wait at least 10-15 minutes after your workout to give yourself enough time for your body to calm down before throwing yourself under icy cold water.

I use this time to casually rehydrate and clean my workout area

I lift. I eat right and I take cold showers. Those aren't what makes me disciplined, those are consequences.

If what you get from reading Meditations is that he sleeps on the ground, then you have already lost. Read it once more but look to the message of providence. I know it's a Hitler word, but remove it from the one man and see what providence is. There is a good in all men.

Meditations is not about the 'punishments' he puts himself through. It is about the mindframe he has. Read Epictetus, Discourses. It is not the man, the soul, or the status. It is his actions. A man worries only about what is his control. Recognize when you're feeling any emotion and say "do I control what causes my problems". If yes, then change it. If no, then stop worrying.

To develop this habit you must make an effort to recognize emotions first. They govern us at almost all times, so you should nearly always have something to observe. When you say that you aren't feeling anything right now, then you know you're wrong and this is something to overcome.

After you recognize them, analyze them. Do not judge your emotions. They aren't yet in your control, so you do not worry about them. You try to change it to see how much control you have. From there, you can develop discipline.

I will reiterate. Stop at least once a day and say "what am I feeling". After a week say "why do I feel it". Then ask "do I control the cause".

A good way to start is to have a habit that you do every day. You sit down and read a chapter. It's short and provocative. You then think, how do I feel now. Grow that thought to govern you throughout your day.

You will likely never gain full control. We are humans. That isn't in your control. Do not worry about it.

The cold shower is simply so you can say "why am I adverse to this shower" "how does it make me feel" "do I control the feelings that lead me to not want to take it". Then you get in, shower, and learn you do control it.

hahaha hello!! newf@g here.

whats a baneepost

Cold showers are mostly a meme and broscience. I still do them though every morning since they help me to wake up my mind and help me train my power of will. I feel good and refreshed after cold showers.

I've been told I'm quite manly at times. It's never been a goal I think I just admire manly people and it's come off in my personality.

I don't take cold showers, mainly because I like warm ones and I don't limit myself to the nice things in life because a Cantonese cat trading forum suggested it's good for gains.

I know there's studies in it being good and whatnot but you know what else is good for gains? Nailing down on your diet, routine and rest programs. So I do that.
Anyway.

I'm 6'1 and 227lb at the moment. Balding slowly. I fix machines for a living. I like cars, building shit, renovating houses and I love learning. I love physical work and the office life bores the shit out of me. I'm a big fan of fishing and all the outdoor types of sports.

I don't follow any team sport at all, it's just not my thing.
I read a fair bit and I listen to heaps of people like Alan Watts who teach me to just be open minded. I think it's important to really know who you are as a person.
I'm also somewhat traditional. I think gay marriage is 100% ok, but I also think there's only two genders. You're allowed to change them if you so desire but there will only ever be two genders in my eyes and that's it.

I feel like I've gone off topic here but long story short, I'm a big guy (for you), I work with my hands, I love hands-on work and physical sports. Hate offices and sitting down for a job so Ive never done it. I like learning shit and Understanding the world. I've got really soft hands (no idea why) but they're all calloused from deadies and shit. I renovate my house and I'm not really scared of doing a whole lot in my life and as a result many people call me manly.

B-but I like Larry david

>I'm also somewhat traditional. I think gay marriage is 100% ok

Thanks for that

I am only about 60 pages into it

I think I should basically only read a page a day and then sit and think about that page instead of just reading it through which wouldn't take very long at all.