Who killed the most?

Who killed the most?

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Long term Stalin
Hitler would win for highest concentration over time though.

>Long term Stalin

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Stalin has the record big time. But every kill for racism = 6,000,000 kills so Hitler killed 6,000,000x6,000,000

Why does Hideki Tojo have his first and last name reveresed?

t. Schlomo Shekelbergenstein

Stalin killed roughly 20 million people in his lifetime. Which puts him at over 600,000 kills a year.

While Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews from 1939 - 1945, making that about 1,000,000 kills a year if you want a steady estimate. If we include Jews and non-Jews killed during the Holocaust, the kill count is something around 12,000,000; making that 2,000,000 a year. And don't forget, the amount of Russians and Soviets who died from Nazi invasions was recently revealed to be about 21,000,000.

It's safe to say Hitler was the more bloodlustering of the two.

>Stalin
>Hitler
>Tojo
>Mussolini
I don't even think Mussolini killed a million

Stalin, but Hitler would have ultimately killed more if his reign had lasted more than 12 years ago

Where do you get these numbers from?

>After the Soviet Union dissolved, evidence from the Soviet archives also became available, containing official records of 799,455 executions (1921–1953),[9] around 1.7 million deaths in the Gulag and some 390,000 deaths during kulak forced resettlement – with a total of about 2.9 million officially recorded victims in these categories.[10]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_deaths_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin

Are you quoting the Black Book of Communism? A book whose already conservative and anti-soviet authors distanced themselves from because the ex communist author was so clearly biased?

If you're basing yourself on someone like Richard Pipes or Robert Conquest then you should know that these people based themselves on demographic developments. That the mortality rose during the Stalin years probably has something to do with the famine in Ukraine but the executions wouldn't have contributed to the demographic slump in any significant way. What was quite (and to be honest obvsiously the most) signifcant was the 20+ million casualties from WW2.

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Trick question, they were all innocent.

Stalin > Hitler > Mussolini > Hideki

Tojo > Stalin > Hitler+Mussolini.

Tojo was a military officer who served through the rank and file.

Stalin, likewise, rose to the top as a communist combatant, later an officer.

Mussolini was some shitty journalist, so he killed zero people.

Hitler was some shitty WWI courier, who didn't actually fight, but was an HQ rat and whined about Jews a lot.

Doesn't Asian culture usually put the last name before the first? Or is that just Korea?

Hitler didn’t kill only Jews he also killed other minorities and political opponents.
In total Hitler kill around of 12 million of people. And that are only the direct persecution if you count the civilian death and military prisoners death in WW2 he killed a lot more than Stalin.

Hitler, and it's really not close.

Stalin's death toll depends on how many died on the famines and how you assign blame. Everything else, like the executions, gulags, and ethnic deportations, are pretty much accounted for. His range pretty solidly settles between 5 and 10 million. See this article for more detail on him.
nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/

Mussolini hits around 700,000, mostly for the Italo-Ethiopian War and his part in the Greek famine. Maybe more if you give Pavelic's kills to Mussolini, since Mussolini is the one who installed him.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_war_crimes

Tojo mostly has China on his record. Estimated Chinese civilian deaths in WW2 was 17 million. A good chunk of those would be to 'normal' war related causes rather than democide, though several million were intentional such as the 2.7 million killed in the Three Alls policy. There were also a few million killed in Indonesia and Vietnam, mostly via famine, and several hundred thousand in the Philippines and Malaya. Maybe 10-20 million for the Japanese regime.

Hitler's is by far the easiest to tabulate because the Nazis wrote extensively about their plans to kill off Eastern European populations, kept detailed records, and invaded somewhat developed countries that kept census records.Per the Soviet government, civilian deaths in German-occupied territory totaled 13.7 million (7.4 million murdered, 2.1 million dead in forced labor, 4.1 million dead due to Hunger Plan), while POW deaths add another 3.3 million, a total of 17 million intentional non combatant deaths in the USSR.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union#Civilian_losses
Add another 5 million for Poland, including 2.9 million Jews and 2.2 million ethnic Polish civilians.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Poland#Institute_of_National_Remembrance
Add other countries and he's around 25 million.

>Where do you get these numbers from?
From your very same source.

What I was quoting were the figures from the Soviet archives. If you're basing yourself on people like Pipes or Conquest who are also mentioned in that article you should know their method is sketchy.

What makes up the 20 million you mention? The purges, the famine or the gulag system? Historians reaching numbers like yours usually go beyond those factors or interpret them in creative ways. I'd like to know your take on it.

Black books of communism literally claims that abortions and "people that werent born because their potentional parents died in WW2" as well as all people that died on the Eastern front are "victims of communism/Stalin"

Mao.

>the communist pseudo intellectuals will defend this

Intentional, unintentional,or both? If both,then Stalin by far. If intentional, then Stalin by far.

>figures from the soviet archives

heh reliable

t. Shillary Schlomosberg

Tell me, how did Germany's attempts to defend Germans in Danzig force the allies to war ?

What evidence do you have for the rest aside from (((MSM)) shit?

jej

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>Germany's attempts to defend Germans in Danzig

xD

What figures should be used then?

So how was the 20 million figure attributed to Stalin concluded?

Hitler started the WW2 so technically all deaths in european theater are his fault.

>1. Hitler
>2. Stalin
>3. Tojo
>4. Mussolini(fucking why even put him on the list?)

You're right, Japan also puts the family name before the given name. Generally people follow the western convention when writing in English though.

Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Stalin was compliant in making war Hitler

I'm more and more convinced that some anti-commies just pulled the number out of their ass and other Westies just rolled with it.

I know right comrade? Its like Stalin could do no wrong and that communism didn't fail because of him. Those fucking capitalists did. But me and you both know that REAL communism has never been tried! So lets go out and beat down people until they agree with us and force larger government! For freedom of course.

>muh minorities
Nigger just say that he killed a bunch of people and quit with your PC bullshit

Hitler
Stalin
Hideki
Mussolini

I think the one who most killed was[spoiler] the forget of our history.[/spoiler] That one is the most dangerous genocide of our species.

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Pretty retarded image considering tankies and "genderqueer" people couldn't be further apart, and that stalin was a social conservative.

To save millions

>Mussolini
>no Mao

Yes, it was Stalin. Everybody knows that. What /pol/ fails to realise is that the deaths of people internally will never be seen as badly as the death of people externally.

Mussolini.

>Creates Fascism
>Hitler adopts and perverts fascism
>Hitler starts the European war
>Leads to the genocide programs
>Leads to the Invasion of Russia
>Leads to millions more killed in the Soviet Union.
>Leads to Soviet domination and repression of everything east of east Germany
>Soviet Union proceeds to fiance and train others around the world to drag their ideology to other parts of the world, resulting in more war, death and misery.

that's not very progressive to insult the intellectually impaired.

The contest is really between Stalin and Hitler, and objectively the answer is Hitler. But that's only because he lived a long time. If Hitler had won the war and been able to enact his plans for eastern Europe, he'd have easily beat Stalin's body count.

this, these classcucks need to read a fucking book, right fellow /leftypol/ user?

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Oh yes the great /pol/ genocide of germans in gdansk

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>the left steals memes because they can't meme yourself
Stirner's pretty dank tho

Hitler killed millions, but it was to save billions

mussolini literally did nothing wrong

noboddy even come close to stalin ya derp

>Everything else, like the executions, gulags, and ethnic deportations, are pretty much accounted for.
Some of the numbers are off here.

>Nazis wrote extensively about their plans to kill off Eastern European populations
Nope.

>kept detailed records
Nope.

>invaded somewhat developed countries that kept census records.
Just to destroy census records? That's definitely not a stretch [sarcasm].

>Per the Soviet government,
You mean the government that blamed Germany for war crimes they committed, constantly inflated death and falsified records?

>What I was quoting were the figures from the Soviet archives.

>Soviet gulag records are reliable.
>German concentration camp records are not.
Hmmm...

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