Will we ever reach a point where the misconceptions and myths about ancient populations are finally rectified through the use of population genetics? Or will the general populace always stay ignorant of such knowledge?
I've noticed that people seem to reject or ignore information that comes out about ancient European populations, instead choosing to believe in fantasies.
The NORDIC Funnelbeaker man: >Nordic skull >Pale, blonde and blue-eyed >Warlike and violent >Patriarchal and advanced culture >Milk drinker
The shitkin PIE mongrel: >Short and broad face >Swarthy, brown-haired and brown-eyed >Warlike and violent but only expands through his pestilence >Generic tyrannical steppenigger culture >Lactose intolerant
The leading opinion is a certain complex that may begin with an "I".
Oliver Gray
I have no idea what any of this means.
Nathaniel Perry
Why do the new worlders gang up on him?
Jackson Jackson
B A S E D
Brayden Fisher
Is it Litvin from theapricity?
Grayson Phillips
New worlders lack the various petty grudges and complexes of Europeans so they find his ethnonationalistic wewuzzing irritating.
Andrew Price
I think so.
Noah Cruz
Mental illness.
Joseph Torres
I wouldn't be shocked if that R1b "polack" on here was actually him too.
Gabriel Johnson
Can you stop bringing your forum drama into Veeky Forums? You got blown the fuck out in the other thread already nigger, how about you stop living your life through your ancestors and begin building something for you and your descendants
Lincoln Roberts
That Goth poster is U106 though, Litvin is DF27 I think.
Robert Cruz
I've asked him before and he claims not to be. But he's also a Poolack, also R1b, also a wewuzzer, spams Tomenable's shit everywhere, and constantly defends him. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's lying.
Parker Wilson
Who is it that supposedly got "btfo" in the previous thread?
Julian Butler
Veeky Forums is an anthropology board that happens to dabble in philosophy and WW2 history.
This. Anthrocuck posters should be permabanned, literally nobody cares about your shitty autistic incel forums.
Daniel Kelly
Fuck off.
Veeky Forums is an anthroboard :)
Angel Hill
And your shitty Holocaust/WW2/philosophy/Anne Frank/Civil War threads are bette? lmao stay jealous.
Jaxson Turner
Tomenable did nothing wrong. Eupedia is a shitshow full of insecure insects anyway. Maciamo is a haploretard, Angela has MENA obsession(she claimed Scandinavians exist because middle eastern men fucked european women), she posts angry shit on her period, LeBrok and that fat bicleur or whatever the fuck are Angela's beta orbiters and leftists.
It's a shithole.
Cameron Anderson
You subhumans literally have like 5 forums explicitly dedicated to your wewuzing, stop shitting up this place with your autism.
Landon Thompson
But this one generates the most butthurt and fun if you haven't noticed...
Also prehistory threads are the most quality in the entire board, prove me wrong.
Charles Harris
The entire "upper echelon" is absolute cancer.
Josiah Johnson
>unironically shillong for namefag forums
Jace Morris
Does everyone on that forum have to start their posts with 'oh please'?
Liam Powell
>Also prehistory threads are the most quality in the entire board, prove me wrong.
Also there are no nicks on this anthroboard :)
Ayden Cruz
I think prehistory threads are by far the best since nothing is never really known for sure and we're constantly making new game-changing discoveries. Compare that to the likes of WW2 threads where the same shit is regurgitated over and over again and nothing new is ever brought to the table.
Ian Cook
>:) Poland should be rangebanned
Adrian Gomez
And what's wrong about that one? Tollense comes to mind. Also Helena was pretty much as Scandinavian/Baltic/Slavic woman from the description, certainly not Med.
Colton Fisher
This, but I also like meme and music threads.
WW2 "hitler could win if x/is holocaust real/LOL X ARMY IS BETTER THAN Y ARMY" threads are a cancer though.
Zachary Wood
Yes Tormenable with his Troy was in the baltic or ochre was invented by EHG posts is so insightful
Xavier Rivera
>getting triggered because of a passive-aggresive smile :)
Aaron Ortiz
Prehistory threads are good but only if people ignore that retarded polack.
Owen Brooks
t. Angela
Ian Harris
>that retarded polack. Which one? There are about 3 in this moment.
Isaiah Johnson
>not denying being from Poland
Christopher Allen
There's actually tens of millions
Connor Kelly
It's always the Silingian.
Lucas Rogers
No they aren't, they turn to shit immediately, when you see a ":)" you know the thread is going into the shitter at the speed of light
Nathan Brooks
Depends on if you recognize my heimatland as polish or no...
Jace Wilson
All of you should be fucking gassed
Wyatt Taylor
>And what's wrong about that one? Nothing. Except there weren't any cities there until they met Romans, but I guess it's not that relevant. You can have Troyan war without Troy.
Hudson Anderson
There are three: >silesian polack nordicist >r1b "we wuz goths" polack, probably Tomenable/Litvin >eternally butthurt gemanophobic polack spamming with "anti-kraut" threads
Austin Cook
Poles are better than other humans
Adam Stewart
>Patriarchal and advanced culture >N*rdic Cuckoldry and weakness is literally in your genetics
>r1b "we wuz goths" polack, probably Tomenable/Litvin Nope. I see the difference in the posts. I also doubt Tomenable would be posting here.
Asher Turner
It's because of that fucking Pole. No matter the topic it always ends with a discussion about Nordics, EHG and Indo-Europeans.
Nolan Hill
The third guy is the "chad slavic continuity" guy, right?
William Myers
The third one is a Jew.
Chase Jackson
From what I remember Tomenable was making some ridiculous claims about the goths, and actually posted the reconstruction of a goth that the local r1b polack keeps reposting, so it's possibly him.
But the mutation of R1b isn't right, so we can't be sure. Possibly.
Nathaniel Hernandez
Yes he tries to shoehorn his MUH STEPPE MUH EHG in every thread
Nathan Cooper
It's because retards keep replying to him. The gallo-moroccan used to fuck up various threads too but now the most of people ignore his baits so he isn't that much of a problem.
Thomas Sanders
Are you saying that using genetics to determine the nature of historical events doesn’t belong on a history board? Thonk
Jace Phillips
I'm not Tomenable. The reconstruction I post is from a Polish source obviously, since the excavation was conducted in Elblag, Poland.
Also, I don't recall making any ridiculous statements. And my subclade is U106 with mtDNA W, so that's the only thing we have in common. I'm mostly shitposting on /int/ though.
The problem is that the Gallo-Moroccan makes those infographics which are easy for people to ignore, while all the Silesian does is spam "HURR EHG WUZ NORDICS" which is too tempting for people not to reply to.
Brandon Walker
You forgot the "Odin was an R1a warlord"-polack and tge "Lusatian culture was Proto-Slavic"-polack.
Connor Turner
First one is a "Karelian" Finn, not polack.
And the second one is probably the third one.
Eli Robinson
Pretty sure both of those are the third guy, who also thinks that 90% of the Germanic tribes were Slavic.
Andrew Allen
I remember the Odin/R1a guy on /int/, he's definitely Polish. The Karelian might have picked it up from him or started it, though.
Ryder Roberts
>NORDIC Funnelbeaker man >Milk drinker
>PIE mongrel >Lactose intolerance Isn't it the opposite?
Xavier Barnes
this thread never agree on anythimg
Grayson Ramirez
Then keep this garbage in one general I can hide and ignore, instead of having literally every thread hijacked with Polack retards arguing about who was Nordic and who has steppe ancestry.
William Phillips
He is just trolling.
Noah Sanchez
There was a meme that Yamnayans were milk-drinkers who brought lactase persistence to Europe, but it turns out that they were mostly lactose intolerant, while Funnelbeakers did drink milk :)
Ryan Ramirez
CHG in Indo Europeans comes from EHG men fucking Georgian women.
Adrian Hernandez
To be fair, a single skull isn't that much of a proof. He likely lived a harsh life, which would probably give him a more rugged appearance.
As for the often posted Rex Gothorum et Vandalorum-argument, it just shows that while many of the Goths and Vandals migrated south, many also remained in their north european homelands. These were later conquered by the slavs in the 6th century and became assimilated.
Daniel Hughes
This. And the EHG were Nordics :)
Justin Gutierrez
>mfw all my hard work has gone to waste :( Thanks for the tip, from now on i will spam "ENF were E1b1b" "IEs were matriarchal :(".
Jonathan Mitchell
it's the same cycle every time >white people do wonders >the mix with brown peoples >now these places are shit Greece, Egypt, Mesopotamia, Rome etc the white identity is withdrawing north
Chase Murphy
Half of this sentence is true though.
Dominic Reyes
Poles are just a mix of native Lusatians, East Germanics, and some Celts that got Slavicised :)
Eli Martinez
If it makes you feel any better, I do read all your infographics and appreciate how much time and research you put into making them.
Robert Sanders
The part about IEs being matriarchal? True, and this is why we should glorify patriarchal farmers (primarily Funnelbeakers) rather than Indo-Gyppoids.
Isaac Martin
I'm drunk enough to let this one go. My fellow Polish brother :) Goths became a confederation since they expanded Westwards. So it's obvious that they had all kinds of people.
Since someone mentioned "Lusatians were Proto-Slavic polack" I might be the one he's speaking about, because I said that Lusatians might've been ancestors of Balts and Slavs, since Trzciniec pretty much spawned Lusatians. But it was more like Trzciniec + Central Euro Bell Beakers = Lusatians scenario, but still. CWC derived Trzciniec people didn't disappear to pave way for Lusatians. It was more like a fusion.
On the off chance your not trolling, I'll give you a serious response. According to all the books I've read on the subject, the Yamnayas were nomads. They travelled across their steppes with their huge goat herds and horses. This made their diet consist mostly of milk and meat. Meanwhile, the neolithic farmers mostly ate bread, vegetables and fish, and the hunter-gatherers ate meat, fruit and berries.
Them, and slavs. I'm not completely familiar with their genetic makeup but generally, when one tribe defeated another tribe, they killed their men and took their women. Racial purity wasn't something they cared about, so there are likely no 100% purebred slavs, celts or germanics.
Blake Jackson
>I might be the one he's speaking about I doubt it, since the guy who spams it is very distinctive. He usually posts the Tomenable map of the "Slavic ethnogenesis" followed by a fuckload of photos of the reconstructed Biskupin settlement.
Eli Johnson
Nope, the other part. I am a German of Vandalic heritage :)
Cameron King
Funnelbeakers were distinct from other farmers, though. Their culture was dominated by animal husbandry (including cattle), and they did drink milk.
Nathaniel Jones
I don't know all of it, but the balto-slavic culture being a newer form of the lusatian culture seems reasonable to me. During the late bronze age the proto-germanic peoples invaded and drove them further east probably intermixing with the ones taken prisoner, and then in the early middle ages, the slavs (re?)conquered those lands.
Alexander Flores
Slavs had different way of expansion though, They simply assimilated people their conquered. You're a Pole of Vandalic heritage :) Vandals in terms of their paternal lines were pretty much like West Slavs. Ah. Maybe, I still don't like the 6th century AD Slavic expansion narrative though. It almost makes it as Slavs didn't exist prior to that. If that scenario was true then they probably had some kind of ancestral memory of those lands.
Look how quickly Slavs took over Bohemia, Poland and Eastern Germany. It's almost as they were familiar with those lands. >inb4 it was empty We all know it was not.
That's wrong actually. Jews more likely mixed in the West than in Poland. In fact, Jews in Poland spoke German and kept to themselves in their small ghettos. That's why so many of them died during WWII. They didn't assimilate.
Justin Cooper
>ancestral memory Been hitting the ThuleanPerspective recently?
Jason Parker
Okay, i said it wrong. I meant some type of story telling? It's not impossible.
Gavin Young
Fair enough, I suppose it's possible (although personally I disagree with the theory that Lusatian culture was Proto-Slavic)
Jordan Richardson
For Lusatians to be Germanic or Celtic, they would have to kill all Trziniec Balto-Slavs. And there was no population replacement as in Britain.
Parker Richardson
So what's the point of this post? Can I be proud of my scottish/french/english/prussian ancestry? Or am I just another human piece of shit like those in literally every other group?
Ethan Brooks
I will tell you something that will blow your mind. All animals except horses were first domesticated by farmers. And they all had their own animals.
Justin Butler
>They simply assimilated people their conquered. Most tribal societies did that as far as I know, but yeah. >Vandals in terms of their paternal lines were pretty much like West Slavs What? Most people today are descended from conquering peoples on the paternal side, and conquered peoples on their maternal. The vandals, while probably a bit balto-slavic maternally, were definitely descended from germanic invaders paternally. >It almost makes it as Slavs didn't exist prior to that. Not really, they existed in modern russia, but there are next to no sources about them from this time. >We all know it was not. Most of the ruling structure and warrior elite had migrated south, whether you look at goths, burgundians, vandals, rugians or any of the other germanic tribes there. Combine that with the hunnic rampage through the area, these lands were probably severely depopulated.
Jason Lewis
Never said they were Germanic or Celtic, and I don't believe they were either.
Isaiah James
Like I said. Balto-Slavic Trziniec got most likely influenced by Bell Beakers, in worst case scenario conquered. >What? Most people today are descended from conquering peoples on the paternal side, and conquered peoples on their maternal. The vandals, while probably a bit balto-slavic maternally, were definitely descended from germanic invaders paternally. That's wrong actually, they carried Slavic and Baltic R1a along with "Dinaric" l2a. Meaning their had paternal ancestors of Balts and Slavs in their ranks. >Most of the ruling structure and warrior elite had migrated south, whether you look at goths, burgundians, vandals, rugians or any of the other germanic tribes there. Combine that with the hunnic rampage through the area, these lands were probably severely depopulated. eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/03/exotic-female-migrants-in-early.html
Up for debate. Depopulation seems like a meme for now.