/FRAUD/ Betrayal edition A thread for the discussion and debate of performance and image enhancing drugs, primarily anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS).
If you want advice on your first cycle, post your age, height, weight, %bf and years spent training along with what you plan on taking. CBT is highly recommended.
No, we cannot tell you how to dose your AI
Go make friends with a steroid user at your gym if you need a source
>tfw girl and I decide to go official last night >tfw she breaks up with me after she left this morning >we lifted together daily and I got her on anavar At least I still have my roid gains. Goodbye humanity.
Anthony Allen
Using tren=not a pussy Not using tren=a pussy
Andrew Myers
1. I don't know where to buy tren legally and safely 2. i dont know what tren is or what anavol is or what clen is 3. i don't know how much mili liters to shoot up my ass or where 4. i don't like needles 5. i don't want to lactate 6. i don't want to fuck up my adrenal system or libido or anger drive in my 40s
Matthew Barnes
Dafuq
Samuel Young
I don't like all of the sides which I get from it. Why should I use a hormone that makes eating and sleeping properly difficult when there are other options out there?
Charles Torres
Fuck off
Lincoln Ortiz
i.. i could beat you up faget...
John Gutierrez
>Start first cycle >every 3/10 girl is now a fuckable 6/10 >every 6/10 and above is a literally a goddess
jesus christ
Hudson Powell
1. use google faggot 2. use google faggot 3. use google faggot 4. stop being a pussy, faggot 5. use google faggot >actually wanting to live up to your 40s
Carson Watson
>i don't know the answer but i wanna call you a faggot the post
Nathan Flores
You came to the wrong thread...just use sarms fag
Hunter Parker
what the fuck are sarms
Nathan Wilson
Tren is making you skinny
STAY SKINNY THEN FAGGOT
While you become even more skinnier to until you're a stig figure i will get bigger and bigger by the day
William Gutierrez
Slap dem hoes
Eli Campbell
Reposting because dead thread:
What are your experiences with dbol and TUDCA dosing?
I'm looking at using dbol for my first blast (been on TRT for about ten months now), and I'm not sure how long I can run it or how much TUDCA will be needed. I'll probably only be using 25 mg/day, and I'm hoping to go for about six weeks.
Camden Murphy
>Tren is making you skinny
No im fat powerlift, 8-9k calories a day keeps me nice and fat
Adam Diaz
>i will become a walking obesity of muscles while you remain healthy!
Robert Parker
What’s the highest you’ve brewed EQ? I want to try 500mg/ml but I think I’ll end up doing 333mg/ml or 350
Ryder Wright
steroids for pansies (faggots lacking moral fibre) like you
William Foster
he’s doing the ‘date 1-1.5 points before your level as a handsome man’ method. very powerful way to always demand sex, cheat and control the relationship. gud for him
Zachary Davis
holy shit that webm. it's literally all about genetics
Logan Gomez
what the fuck are steroids for pansies???
you mean fucking zma?
Angel Brown
Started the new year off right by throwing up all of my dinner and probably my asin and ralox too.
Happy 2018 lets do this. Operation hueg and shredded is in effect for the summer.
Levi Brown
Idk even what to feel right now
Gabriel Gonzalez
>Tren is making you skinny
Joshua Ward
25mg for 6 weeks shouldn't cause enough toxicity to be using tudca, use milk thistle for that low of a dose and that short of a duration. tudca is only useful when running halo, mibolerone and adrol
Camden Murphy
>No im fat powerlift You were never able to make it anyway
My bloods looks great, I only eat healthy. Don't use tren and never do crazy dosages.
But i still look like i tren. Life is unfair guys
stay mad
Where are you pics on tren then?
Henry Ward
google it faggot
Jaxon Flores
tren makes you grow like a tampon in water, the fuck kind of tren are you taking?
Jose Flores
I shoot for 300mg/ml because I don't like pinning compounds with a shit load of PIP, but I also don't want to pin huge amounts of oil.
James Roberts
>opened pic, actually jelly
I thought it was a meme
Xavier Collins
everyone on tren is dyel
especially you
Andrew Rivera
i'm not on tren, you fucking fag
Henry Martinez
I thought dbol was relatively harsh on the liver. Is it just the low dose that makes you say that?
I'll look into milk thistle, though, thanks.
Andrew Price
>and adrol wow this is a stupid post
Brody Morales
Oh maybe they use another kind of tren over here, that doesn't have the same effect
I bet this picture is making even more jelly, knowing i was still natty here
You can't have it all in life. Let's hope you are able to get your phd, make a lot of money and try to compensate with that
Julian Russell
I got a tren blast lined up...then I got pics...so yeah
Charles Clark
I don't use it for orals and I've never had an issue.
I've seen it at 600 mg/mL before but I personally wouldn't go that high. 300-400 seems nice and comfy without too much oil to pin each week.
Alexander Morgan
nah, not nearly as jelly over this pic
man, I wish I could look like that, I would be so happy. fuck you for being depressed. I would just walk around all day grunting and making gorilla noises and be so happy
Ethan Clark
Dbol is typically pretty easy on the liver and 25mg is a baby dose. So yes to both.
Andrew Rogers
>being so insecure you’re taking pics when turned a little sideways to hide how wide your hips are
Joseph Young
A BBer got liver cirrhosis from cycling adrol for too long without liver protection, wys fag?
Gavin Davis
no he didn't lol
Henry Lee
Show us what this tren does. Show us the true power of this magical potion bro
Even when you do look like that. You constantly want more. I still feel the same when i was dyel like you.
it's a mental battle you were never supposed to win
just give up That's easy to compensate with if you have HUGE BACK and FRAME and SHOULDERS
That WIDTH, hmmmm i almost felt in love with myself
Jason Ward
It’s possible if you don’t sleep, can’t eat enough, and aren’t digesting your food properly leading to poor absorption of nutrients.
Carson Morgan
What kind of dog is that
Cameron Sullivan
no bro tren is making you huge af, look at this guy. He did it and completely went big ramy mode
only 10 years of that stuff before you notice the dyel effects
Colton Thompson
shut up. one day I will be the biggest and then I will have beaten the dysmorphia
i never will feel skinny again if i never see anyone bigger than me
Hunter Morales
Can confirm, am on tren.
Also I just realized I haven't taken my ai in like 4 days. Fug.
Eli Davis
Not digesting your food properly...dafuq
Adrian Stewart
That guy was trolling Lord of the retards
Jose Smith
That guy was trolling Lord of the retards...geez
Angel Sanders
Hey friends give me some advice? On Thursday I pinned test in left quad. Everything was fine for two days, no PIP. Since sunday the injection site really started hurting though, but there's no bruising or anything. Anyone else experience delayed PIP?
Ethan Roberts
A decent amount of people get pretty bad digestive problems when they use tren (eg food takes longer to digest and you get to deal with a shit load of heartburn and indigestion which makes getting calories in fairly painful).
Camden Thompson
good. it should be.
bb is a competitive sport to see who can endure the most pain
Easton Powell
you need to stop posting
Kayden Taylor
>Anyone else experience delayed PIP? yes, nothing new here
Aiden Howard
Do the lids of vials self-seal after you put a needle through them, or do I need to make sure my vials are upright at all times once "opened"?
Sorry I'm new and I don't want to risk inverting a vial and potentially losing some precious oil :D
Dylan Price
Lol nderachore is a decent dude and he bangs qt chicks so I can’t hate too much but he used to look better than that pic.
Yeah it can fuck you up pretty bad. I had diarrhea basically the entire time I was on it and there would be almost whole pieces of food in the toilet likes leaves of spinach and shit. It was pretty nasty.
They reseal as long as you haven’t used a huge needle or stabbed it 60+ times in almost the same spot. I keep them upright unless I’m traveling though.
Jaxon Torres
>I will have beaten the dysmorphia keep dreaming and believing
I wish that was true
So? Who the fuck cares? Does that make him a better person? I hope you and him get cancer and die, fucking losers
That guy is a pedophile, but he's nice in person and does good things for children.
HAHAHAH
Christopher Roberts
>pedo Ndera? I didn’t know he fucked with that I just remember the QT Icelandic chick he went on vacation with
Colton Scott
your personality must suck
Adrian Allen
Can we post happy stuff and good feels
Test makes you happy and confident, but everyone is dysmorphic and miserable?
>nearly lean enough to start eating again >nearly lean enoguh to post in CBTs
No more hunger, no more slaving away to get smaller and smaller
Hunter Butler
that was a metaphor dumbass
The fact the he does that in your eyes doesn't make him bigger all of the sudden. The fact remains; he roids for 10 years and look like shit. Even skinnier than natties
>Butt he fucks girls
jesus fucking christ, some of you have such low standards. i can't even believe this shit is even true. Is this a huge troll? Are you faggots trolling me or what
Asher Murphy
It’s troll mast 2018 nigga enjoy the shitshow
Isaac Cooper
Ok, thanks. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a cause for concern.
Julian Peterson
stop, u not allowed to post more before u tell me one good thing that happen to u recently, one thing that make you happy, etc
>I hope you and him get cancer and die
Because he is lazy? I hope nothing happen to him, he has to look the way he looks as a punishment.
There was a crime, he disrespected the gym, and the punishment, his physique. There's no reason to wish ill upon him
He makes ME look better because I can post my old pics and say 'LOL look at my genetics I am 3 times bigger natty than steroid users'
is that such a bad thing
Anthony Peterson
No he makes us look bad. And the fact that other faggots justify/defend the way he looks like that makes it only worse
>butt he fucks girls >buttt it's a trolll >butt he looked better before OF course they DEFEND HIM because they look the same as him after blasting grams of gears for a decade.
We use steroids not be fucking mediocre and look like a natty, but to be better than anyone else.
Why fuck up your body for zero results. There is no logical reason behind that
FUCKKKKK, this must be like when you look at my pictures.
It's not even funny anymore
Zachary Thompson
guy in the back mirin hard. I feel his pain.
Joseph Gomez
i've never heard of metforming lowering natural test levels. if you start out low, which 250mg is, you shouldn't encounter too many side effects.
met makes me really tired, and it feels impossible to get up in the morning. (i take 750mg with a heavy carb meal post workout) when i first started i took too much at first and my stomach felt like it was on suicide watch for a week or two. felt shit and had diarrhea.
also really thirsty.
berberine is also a decent alternative.
Ian Hughes
Has anyone from the UK used Medichecks for bloods? Any other companies I should try instead? I live in LONDON if it makes any difference.
Ethan Phillips
you know metformin is extremely hard on your kidneys right
Brandon Gomez
he just salty he started the year with shit on his dick maybe his e2 is too low
Mason Watson
is it? i did a quick google search and the only thing that came up related to kidney, is people with pre existing kidney conditions.
Noah Sanchez
well I'm a nurse and there are always pre-printed orders that anyone on metformin needs to have it stopped prior to and after an contrast imaging because they are both extremely tough on kidneys and can induce failure if done together. not something I would mess with if you aren't type 2 diabetic.
normally it doesn't happen. That day everything was cursed i tell you
it was a sign from Jesus and Allah.
Ethan Cruz
So I've been blasting 500mg Test E for 15 weeks so far out of a 30 week cycle. Can I hop on tren and blast for 10 weeks then cruise for 5?
Charles King
Wtf, I'm not clicking that
Robert Anderson
Wtf, why do you come into every thread to post this
Jaxon Thomas
I wouldn't just drop tren into a cycle best to have everything planned bro
Landon Hall
post your most recent bloods.
Aiden White
But I want m a x I m u m g a i n s
Totally kidding. Okay. I havent really learned much about tren either you're right. On that note however, can I keep blasting 500mg Test E for another 10 weeks. Then cruise for 5? or should I just blast til 20 then cruise for 10?
Chase Hughes
Because I bloatmax until I suicide cut in March.
Eli Diaz
I thought 30wk was str8 blast and I thought that was pretty neat, but either or seems ok
Jose James
Will nolva and asin reverse gyno during PCT?
Thomas Bennett
>not something I would mess with if you aren't type 2 diabetic ya, probably shouldn't take steroids unless we're muscle wasting and low test probably shouldn't take breast cancer medication to lower our estrogen either
in regards to metformin, there is tons of info on how good metformin is, not just for type 2 diabetics.
thanks nurse, if i'm ever on metformin and i'm going to get contrast imaging done, i'll remember to stop for a few days.
Alexander White
Depends on why you have gyno but it could work.
Josiah Adams
Almost time for test/deca blast. Been cruising on 250mg sust/w and cutting. Fuck cutting.
400mg deca a week made me super jealous and angry at everything, got prolactin and e2 in control yet still was like a walking timebomb.
200mg deca a week good for 20weeks with 500mg test/w?
David Gomez
5'10 220 18% bf, im on 500mg/wk test thats it, I want to grab the classic physique look. What do i need coach
Zachary White
Metformin is not hard on the kidneys. Iodine-based contrast reagents can be hard on the kidneys, especially in people who already have impaired renal function. Since metformin is excreted unmetabolized through the kidneys, a decrease in renal function will lead to levels of metformin remaining high in the blood, potentially causing ketoacidosis. That's why you don't give IV contrast to someone on metformin until it clears their system and you have a decent eGFR established.
>t. someone who's actually taken pharmacology, unlike nurses
Chase Ortiz
lmao >one drug is okay to take so all of them are! enjoy you're dialysis