Bench Pressing works the same muscles as OHP + your chest
Rows work the same muscles as Shrugs + your lats.
Benjamin Nguyen
No. No one exercise is absolutely needed. The only exercise that is needed is one that has the required resistance for the muscle group you want to grow and adapt and become stronger and larger. But most importantly one that you can do the most without injuring yourself and are willing to do for long periods.
Nolan Nguyen
theres a guy on BB.MISC (u aware brah) who has crazy delts and he says he hasn't done a standing/seated press in years, all he does is lateral raises for them
Ayden Carter
why the fuck would I do hundreds of lateral taises when I could be doing The Press?
Brayden Bell
The Press is a meme. It's supposed to work your front and middle delts, as well as your core. But you can't go as heavy as you can with a horizontal press. So you very rarely see anyone with a 2pl8 strict press, and nowadays we see more and more people who Press like Chase. That way of leaning back essentialy turns it in a standing horizontal press and takes the middle delt out of the equation. Besides, most people have underdeveloped rear delts, so all you need is horizontal press (bench, flat, DB, decline etc.) + rows + rear delt isolations.
Nicholas Perry
Its good for Posture and working deeper muscles like levators, triceps longhead and rc which maintains shoulder integrity. It also helps train thoracic extension and hits the upper trap from above.
Bentley Morales
Why not do both? I actually want to have strong and functional shoulders as well.
Noah Ortiz
>the press
Isaac Thompson
The Press is so badass
Landon Russell
What so just doing Bench Press, Barbell Row, Squat and Deadlift are the only ones you need for full body workout?
James Richardson
the only people who don't OHP are people who suck at it and/or are butthurt that you can't ego lift with The Press
Camden Garcia
Good OHP supports good bench Good bench supports good OHP
just do it faggot
Matthew Cruz
a 3pl8 double layback press is about the same as a 2.5pl8 strict press i'd like to see your faggot ass do even half that.
Parker Powell
This
Matthew Sullivan
It's because the The Press can make even the most experience lifter feel like a bitch. 95% of normies can't prews lmao1pl8 and when they discover this they write the press off because in their mind they should be able to since they can lay on a bench and pump put 1pl8 easily for reps. Only lifters with fragile egos shy away from the press. Don't be a bitch OP.
Tyler Diaz
This
This
>Good bench supports good OHP Extremely untrue
Lincoln Hughes
>asking if the press is needed
Jordan Turner
only correct answer ITT
Tyler Garcia
only with improper form you fucking goofus doofus shoulder-wrecking monkeyboii
Jason Clark
Kek
Luis Roberts
bench and incline bench hit the front delts well. then you only need lat raises to get the side delts. this is all you need for shoulder hypertrophy
however, OHP is one of my main lifts because I want to have strong shoulders, not just size
Jordan Harris
unless you have a very wide grip on OHP you don't hit the side delts nearly enough. It tends to be front delt-dominant. So I always do lat raises in addition to OHP
Andrew Gray
>muh hypertrophy time to go back to plebbit kiddo
Ayden Lopez
the OHP develops your mind and also your dick and balls, because it is the most alpha male lift
Angel Cox
This Nothing like lifting a big weight over your head. Also it's a very functional movement and helps me really focus on proper core bracing.
Plus when you start repping 125lbs+ you can start to think about how you can straight up lift qt3.14 petite girls over your head. That motivates me.
Michael Gray
OHP gets the superior deltoid that bench doesn't get. Plus it works different angles if you buy into that. I'm no scientologist, but I know that OHP feels like it hits my ant/pos delts in different ways than bench does.
Sebastian Cook
In terms of generating size, OHP really only hits your front delts. If you want good, overall shoulder development, you want lots of raises, face pulls, etc.
That said The Press (tm) is probably my favorite lift.
Oliver Bell
A good OHP means a good press. A good press means jack shit for OHP
Sebastian Gutierrez
There's no manlier exercise than lifting something heavy over your head. That's all you need to know
Jacob Moore
Press = OHP, brainlet.
Leo Allen
Ohp works your upper chest better too It's almost like a standing bench press
Matthew Garcia
He uses steroids u fucking porch-monkey. Get HIV and die at ur nans birthday.
Brody Morales
>Get HIV and die at ur nans birthday. fucking kek
Jonathan Barnes
>2018 >not doing upside-down dips for upper chest never going to make it.
Sebastian Smith
>not doing OHP for strength and lighter BTN press for superior delt heads activation
Jonathan Rogers
Rip said that OHP is more important than bench so I say you gotta do it meng.
Mason Baker
i do literally that
BTN is kino lift
Adam Diaz
OHP is essential for manlets. Require functional for opening the manletpit trapdoor
Xavier Ortiz
Not at all. Front/lateral/rear delt raises all work a lot better for hypertrophy purposes.
Grayson Nguyen
Btn press will probably work for a bit but your chances of hurting yourself are pretty high
Brandon Rivera
I've actually thought about this aswell. Front delts get so much stimulation from chest-pressing so wouldn't it be more beneficial to put more energy on lateral raises / rear delt flyes to develop round shoulders? Usually these parts get less love.
A chest + delt day for me is usually 15-18 sets of chest then 4-6 sets of lateral raises. Legit?
Just keep the weight lower higher rep.. it's not really any more dangerous than other lifts just gotta not be a dumbass
Gabriel Davis
press always scares me that i'll see a guy enter snap city extreme the leg press videos are bad enough
Austin Ward
I wanna press but i cant right now. Does anyone have any experience working around a clicking shoulder that causes discomfort? Regular barbell OHP irritates it alot and im pretty sure that's what caused it in the first place, since i was OHPing 3x a week. I can still bench fine tho. Besides working on mobility, ive heard good things about switching to a football bar with the neutral grip (palms facing each other) for OHP as its healthier, and also landmine presses. would appreciate some advice on this, thanks.
Matthew Miller
never saw a strict press snap city video
and never in my 4 years old overhead pressing have i ever felt any pain not meter how high my weight intensity was.
I did snap some shit doing dumbell press, long before this vid was take, never again touching dumbells for pressing
Grayson Miller
thats great form brother, good stuff
Wyatt Fisher
Ive always wondered how some jacked powerlifters have huge rounded cannonball delts from just bench pressing and then I realised its just steroids.
>b-but all powerlifters do OHP
Thats not true, even if they do I never see them go heavy. They usually OHP 1 plate max, even when they can bench 4 plates.
Jace Davis
>They usually OHP 1 plate max, even when they can bench 4 plates. ya, you have no idea what you're talking about lmao
Brayden King
im not saying they cant OHP more, im sure they could OHP 2-3 plates if they wanted to.
what im SAYING is that i never see them doing it like that, they either NEVER do OHP, or when they do they do it really light (really light comparative to their bench)
Andrew Cox
Impressive, very nice. Don't worry about your rate tho. If you can The Press 100kg and it's almost your squat I guess you squat somwhere around 110-130, which 100% good. Deadlift lighter than bench is "funny" tho,never heard that before, but don't worry about it. If you want to increase your dl focus more on it.
Jonathan Cruz
>Get HIV and die at ur nans birthday. lmao no gainz detected
Christian Barnes
if there was a movie about skipping leg day you would be the main character
Ryan Gonzalez
oh ok, thanks for clarifying
Brayden Sanchez
how fucking short are you? how stubby are your arms? you seem to have god tier pressing proportions
Levi Taylor
I’ve seen EMG studies show incline pressing works the front delts almost exactly as well as the OHP does(at a 45 degree incline). That’s why so many routines say that they are interchangeable exercises, not to mention overhead pressing is an inefficient/unnatural movement for human beings. Not everyone’s shoulder girdle is designed to do this semi effectively. So yea if you’re doing bench, incline bench, lateral raises and rear delt flys then you’re good.
this shows my height in a better way, the 1st video is taken on the side with a slight angle without feet
Ian Cox
I am extremely strong with OHP - but my delts are shit, and Ive been lifting/bulking for years now.
I see guys at my gym who never OHP, they just do extremely light dumb 1-arm bell presses, in combination with lots of lateral raises and rear-delt fly's - and they all have very developed shoulders.
>they're on steroids!
Stop with that bullshit, you can't just claim that everyone is on steroids because something goes against what you think should happen.
Samuel Myers
How do halter ohp translate into the press?
Joseph Watson
Do you not isolate shoulders
Anthony Moore
>Impressive, very nice. Don't worry about your rate tho. If you can The Press 100kg and it's almost your squat I guess you squat somwhere around 110-130, >which 100% good. Are you fucking retarded? His press is what you'd get with half a decade of solid training, his squat is what you'd get in 2-3 months of babby's first LP, and you're saying it's good? He clearly has some issues squat-wise. Either not squatting often enough, keeping the weight artificially low, atrocious form, or seriously fucked up legs.
You have absolutely no business giving advice.
Julian Brooks
>I'm no scientologist.
Easton Cooper
motherfuckers lying and getting me pissed
Christian Jenkins
We will defeat Xenu.
Alexander Anderson
There is absolutely no lift as alpha as The Press, maybe deadlift comes close.
Liam Clark
>people have been OHP since anyone thought about lifting weights to get stronger
Can anyone vouch for upright rows as a mass builder for delts?
Gabriel Young
Reminder that the Bench Press is an assistant exercise for the Overhead Press. >HLM >Press on H, Dumbbells on L and BP on M
Samuel Thompson
Very proportionally strong OHP and really good shoulders here (for 14 months of training). Some people at my gym think I'm not natural even.
Benjamin Scott
What the actual fuck are u on about. Post body. I guarantee you look like shit and haven't hit 1/2/3/4
Gabriel Torres
Behind the neck
John Morgan
does behind the neck press work for side delts? they did it all the time back in the 70s
Ryder Morris
Upper-body everyday
Bentley Cook
Only do them with dumbbells
Asher Harris
show
Kevin Rodriguez
You're bending your back too far
Jayden Young
delts are genetics or drugs
cope incoming
Thomas Cooper
yes but some people will get shoulder impingement from doing behind the neck
Grayson Miller
This place is full of cope.
Its full of young hopeful guys who havent been through enough shit to realize life isnt fair, they still think anyone can make it, they actually believe that.
It helps them continue trying endlessly, most of them will learn eventually, sad when they die young in full cope mode, its almost like they died as a baby
Dominic Richardson
Hur lång är du?
Camden Cook
6 feet
Adrian Jones
Strictly speaking, no. But bench isn't either. For maximum FUN (and it's well known that fun leads to more enthusiastic training, for longer sessions with more weight) do the PUSH PRESS.
Alexander Jackson
for more fun stay at home and play wow.
People speak about shoulder development and you suggest a movement that -almost- removes the shoulder portion of the press completely.
Justin Wood
Trying to upload pic but it doesn't work wtf
Jaxon Walker
Veeky Forums literally won't let me attach the picture, 'upload failed'. Can't even link a image hosting website lmao
Christian Powell
Overhead pressing is an unnatural movement for human beings? Lol.
Aaron Hernandez
Yeah so you have no idea what wtf youre talking about. OHP is one of our most basic and primal movements akin to the squat or deadlift. The bench press however is definitely unatural. Not too many situations out there where i would be in position to do a bench style movement, yet i pick shit up over my head on a daily basis. kys phaggot
Lucas Nguyen
no, not at all
any other press also hits your front delts, so as long as you are benching or incline benching you're covered
and no press adequately hits side delts
from an efficiency standpoint you are right
good lift man
your deadlift suffers and your presses excel because your arms are short as fuck, there is nothing you can do about this but if it makes you feel any better nobody gives a fuck about anything other than bench anyway
Dominic Harris
Thank you for this post, user.
Josiah Ward
>OHP is one of our most basic and primal movements akin to the squat or deadlift. nice broscience
the fact is that some people have acromion processes that are not suited to overhead pressing (but if you can OHP, you probably should)
fun fact some people also have deep hip sockets that prevent them from squatting to parallel (look up stuart mcgill's article on hip socket morphology)
appeal to naturalism is fucking stupid, the human body has a lot of variability and was never designed with particular barbell lifts in mind and pretending everyone is equally suited to performing any lift is stupid
Jackson Turner
noice 170 kg bench and prolly around 110 kg press 1RM, that seems like you really have god tier short arms for pressing. Shame about the lower body lifts but who the fuck cares about that shit when it's atleast intermediate and the upper body lifts are elite kek
Kevin Nelson
this desu
i would much rather be a bench and press chad than a deadlift chad like i am
nobody but internet autists gives a fuck about those lifts and they're so much harder and less fun than pressing
Andrew Wright
i do OHP with 40 lb dumbbells, and my shoulders are blowing up.
seriously, if you are a slim guy with bulky shoulders and nice lats, you look so fucking cool. bitches love that shit. you look like a fucking swimmer. bitches dont care if you have muscles all around...they just care if you look cool.
seriously, if you are slim, your lats and shoulders should be the two areas to focus the most on.
Jackson Rivera
Yes it is. What purpose in nature does pressing an unnatural amount of weight directly overhead serve? In a job when you lift weight up it's usually up and forward, such as onto a shelf, not up and directly overhead. Human nature never involved pressing heavy weight directly overhead. A landmine press or incline press where the pressing path isn't vertically overhead is far more like real life heavy lifting movements. Heavy weight is usually carried over the shoulder or on the back, not directly overhead unless you're african and carry baskes on your head. OHP is a retarded movement pattern.
how come short? it might be the case i just never felt they are or was told they are before by anyone.
My torso is just very long due to swimming from the age of 6 to 16, and my legs are mighty short compared to upper body part
Nathan Torres
short because they're fucking short man, your upper arms are half your torso
i'm at the opposite extreme, my upper arm spans nearly my entire torso
swimming did not alter the length of your torso, you just have a short limbed long torso build which is ideal for pressing and squatting and shitty for deadlifting