/fast/ #93: Do it for you

Previous thread: >What is /fast/?
Fast is a thread for the discussion of intermittent fasting, fasting, water fasting, and dry fasting.

>WATCH THIS BEFORE ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS
youtu.be/APZCfmgzoS0
While you're at it watch the rest of this guy's videos on nutrition.
>WHY SHOULD I FAST?
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/

>Weight loss
>Better skin
>Autophagy

>WHAT IS AUTOPHAGY?
It's when your body takes apart useless, shitty cells. (Cancer cells, cells with broken protein, acne, loose skin, etc)
idmprogram.com/fasting-and-autophagy-mtor-autophagy-1/

>FASTING FUCKS TUMOR GROWTH
youtube.com/watch?v=LGafhm1cuSI

>HOW DO I SAFELY FAST?
>take around 4700 mg of potassium per day max
>2000 up to 3000 mg of sodium per day max
>MIX THIS INTO AT LEAST A LITER OF WATER, sip it through the day. This will keep you hydrated.

>HERES WHY YOU ARENT ACTUALLY HUNGRY IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 8% BODYFAT
youtube.com/watch?v=dFT2IKmwyfg

>WHAT SHOULD MY FASTING ROUTINE LOOK LIKE?
If you're lean, 5:2!-- OMAD (one meal a day, 1-2 hour eating window) 5 days a week + 48 hour fast a week
If you're a fatass, FAST UNTIL YOU AREN'T.

>WONT I GO INTO STARVATION MODE AND DIE?!
You don't have the willpower to fast to death. Now look down. See that large bulbous gut? That's food. Thousands and thousands of calories stored and ready to be consumed by your body.

>WONT I LOSE MUSCLE?
This is the coolest part about fasting. Your body remains very anabolic when you fast.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5064803/
"Our results suggest that a fasting program in conjunction with resistance training can decrease fat mass, and maintain muscle mass in resistance-trained males."

>Sugar is more addictive than coke
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23719144

i am eateing chips

I’m at the last 4 pounds of the cut and they’re a bitch to get off. I added the 48 hour fast a week, but should I do cardio as well?

I am about to start my first dry fast (i was water fasting before, my record is 5 days), is it good idea to drink a lot of water a few hours before starting a fast in the morning, or it's better to go to bed dry and start from then?

I'm at 270lbs. Is it worth just fasting until I'm at my goal, 220? It'd be just under 2 months by my math.

forgot to add that i am doing it to lose some loose skin, so i hope you weren't memeing about it

how long would you need to dryfast for very little lose skin? i'm ripped but i wanna be "tighter".

i've done 7day water fasts, but never dry fasts.

Fasting is nothing but good for you.

Try it, remember the first 48 hours are the hardest then it gets considerably easier.

Drink your salts, follow the guides, good luck.

Post pic so we can see what we have to work with

>bought chili powder
>found only a seasoning salt powder as a nosalt alternative
Fuck man, do these even count as calories and do they even break my fast?

I hope so too user. It got to be not a meme

How much muscle will I lose if I water fast for a week? Talking straight up water fast, not that crap where you try to offset muscle loss by drinking 3 scoops a day and fuck up your liver.

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I've been postponing my fasting, I will start tomorrow in the morning. But so far I'm happy that I haven't had no junk good in the last 48 hours, plus I'm drinking a lot of water.

so if I fast for 48 hours, I'll enter ketosis? Is this confirmed somehow?

I was in ketosis 2 days ago until i had some cake my sister made for my birthday

Day 8 of my fast

Got a cold yesterday so i dont even want to eat anything, becuase im all congested.
Took nyquil and for the 1st time it really knocked me out at like 4pm.

Going for 10 days, may push for Sunday to break it. Food shopped for some stuff to stay in keotiss even off my fast.

Can I still gain muscle if I'm doing 5:2! OMAD?

I have been on Keto for 3 months now. Lost about 25ish pounds.

I stop eating at 10pm and start eating at 9am.

Is that a good start? Idk what the fuck I am doing.

I workout 5 Days a week

this is after a meal

stop eating at 8pm and start eating at 2pm

yes

I am assuming long windows= better results?

Can you drink green tea or black coffee during a water fast?

Does precum cause an insulin response? Asking for myself.

>one month of counting calories and working out
>no weight loss
>4 days of 8/16 fasting and working out
>3kg lost

Post em

I've been on OMAD for 10 days and have gotten a couple of big spots on my face and neck I don't usually get acne, anyone know why this might be. I mostly stick to a meat and veg dinner around 7pm.

If you're desperate for a snack you can eat your own cum, good protein and it doesn't add anything to your system so you're technicly still fasting, little tricks

I know this is not your goal /fasters/, but since I started IF, it has become easy to no fap. I've never been succesful before on no fap, always relapsed, but now... doing IF and 48h fasts, it seems I can actually do it.

Why is OMAD the best diet there is? My face is already getting defined with that natty jawline also god like skin genetics. Thank you /fast/

Alright this made me curious. If I save up a good bunch of my cum in a bucket and put it in the fridge so that it doesn't go bad, could I make small cookies out of it and eat them without actually stopping my fast?

Hmm yes but also no, the more appropriate term is DRINK your cum. I mean, Cole drinks his piss so why wouldn't another bodily fluid permissible?
Good luck.

If you can find it in capsule form use that. You could also substitute it with cinnamon.

4 days fasting so far, aiming for 6 and i ws suprised this time. The other times ive done a three day or four day fast i have been a weak bitch and getting hunger pangs since the first day even while i had been doing OMAD for a month before but this time im just surfing on clouds how easy it is.

Goal physique

On topic, how bad an idea is it to fast when I work all week? Will it make me irritable or something?

thoughts on consuming approximately 20 calories of manuka honey a day on a fast? this in conjunction with green tea has cured my constipation without inducing diarrhea.

>plateaued for 2~ weeks
>decide to eat near maintenance to shock metabolism yesterday
>fasted today
>like clockwork, dropped the pesky 3/4 lbs
>fucking finally

should i keep fasting for a while since i'm on the train (for another 4/5 days, down to lose more) or go back to eating at my deficit?

if you're consuming calories you're breaking the fast

REQUESTING PROGRESSION PICS OF FASTS

can't really
Also, can'T stop licking the kalium.

18/6 is not fucking IF
IF is a 1 or 2 hour eating window with a 22-23 hour fast go back to r3ddit

please move the glass away from the edge of the table

what is a dry fast? what are the benefits?

Need advice on fasting. Here is how I currently do it:

>strict 22 hours fast 2 hours eating window
>lift weights at 7PM
>eat between 8PM and 10PM, focusing on high protein food
>at wednesdays and weekends I do cardio, so I eat before doing the cardio so that my body won't use my muscles for energy

Am I doing any major fuck up that could be hindering my progress? There is a lot of contradicting information about fasting wherever I look up. I mostly can't tell if I should eat before lifting or not. Some sources say it is much better to lift while still fasting, others say if I don't eat before lifting I will not gain anything. Help

no water, increased autophagy

please be bait

>so I eat before doing the cardio
your body doesn't digest food that quickly. you're still going to use stored energy from the previous day (at least). fasted cardio would be better.
> others say if I don't eat before lifting I will not gain anything.
protein is used for muscle growth and recovery. lifting is tearing the muscle to be grown and recovered

stop listening to plebbit

ngmi

18/6 is literally a normalfag diet skipping breakfast. it's not fasting, it's not IF, it's 6 hours of consuming garbage because you're too stupid to do OMAD

I read on lean, a IF website, that after 10 hours you already ran out of what you previously ate and your body switches to ketosis
>your body does not digest food that quickly
I usually eat it two hours before working out
What I read, and that makes sense, is that the body will usually just use fat while you are at ketosis, however, if you do some very intense cardio that increases your heartbeat by a lot, then it will also need to consume muscle in order to keep the energy going, and that is why you should eat something before, is that bullshit?

Also I did not quite understand your point on protein, are you saying I should eat protein before working out? That would break the ketosis as far as I am aware

>should I do cardio as well?
On the first day near the start yeah. Will help you burn through glycogen more quickly and hit ketosis faster.

Once you're in ketosis just go on really long walks to preserve muscle and burn pretty much just fat. Each mile is like 100cals and it's pure fat for the most part and easy as fuck.

18/6 is definitely IF, anything over 12 hours without eating already triggers ketosis and if you spend 6 hours on ketosis then you are definitely fasting. However, that guy said he stops eating at 10pm and resumes at 9am, I am not sure if he did a typo or something but that's definitely not fasting, that's what any normal human does.

.5 kg probably

If you jog you will lose muscle, just walk on a steady rhythm, a rhythm that allows you to talk without problems

>Will it make me irritable or something?
It depends really. The first few day long fasts I did I felt like poop around the 24-30 hour mark. After 2-3 times that stopped happening and I didn't even notice a mood difference while transitioning into ketosis. I regularly do 2-3 day fasts while at work, but the only thing I do all day physically is walk back and forth for hours.

I'm sensing a lot of pent up angst in your posts, most likely contributed by your super high IQ. Do you watch rick and morty by chance?

can someone else give me input please?

>If you jog you will lose muscle
Not if you've still got glycogen. That's why I said only on the first day near the beginning of the fast.

First day. Not super hungry. Snake juice doing work. I can do this!

>you already ran out of what you previously ate and your body switches to ketosis
ketosis has nothing to do with burning your stored energy. your body on a normal diet uses carbs glucose as energy. when you remove carbs from your diet, it starts to convert fat for energy instead. you're "in ketosis" until you start using carbs for energy again...it has nothing to do with when you eat
>I usually eat it two hours before working out
your body does not digest food this quickly. protein can take up to 24 hours to digest.
>if you do some very intense cardio that increases your heartbeat by a lot
you mean any cardio ever? the point of cardio is to increase your heart rate..
>then it will also need to consume muscle in order to keep the energy going, and that is why you should eat something before, is that bullshit?
all cardio risks losing some muscle but its entirely overblown
>are you saying I should eat protein before working out? That would break the ketosis as far as I am aware
I'm not suggesting this, but you're wrong. see point 1

you can work out fasted and plenty of videos and posts have been done on it. see: BB.com, youtube, or any other website that isn't dominated by 50 year old women

you should probably learn what keto actually is before trying it

oh and before someone mentions protein is converted to glucose:

not until you consume roughly 400g of protein in a day

GOD DAMN WHY WATER FASTING ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL YOURSELF

I "kinda" fasted for 3 days straight in the USA, it was a strange experience

It felt...goodish, do not know why (lost 6 kg in 21 days, though)

When is best to eat protein while doing IF? I fear that eating it only after I workout will mean my body can't repair my muscles during the day

>(lost 6 kg in 21 days, though)
what
I lost like 13kg for that long

this is pretty much exactly my physique, what it is called?

I tried doing OMAD with workouts, instead I just eat a high protein breakfast after workout and then I eat a high protein lunch.

I've mainly been doing OMAD, with some 48hrs on weekends over a couple of months, but I did it bros. My insulin resistance seems to be totally gone. I'm able to eat a moderate amount of carbs and sugar, and have a lot of foods I used to love again (in moderation of course), and still lose weight at the same pace.
I used to hopelessly hold onto weight when I ate any carbs that weren't vegetables, not to mention water retention. Now I can make myself a nice beef and egg rice bowl and still lose a pound overnight. Thanks guys.

I have been fasting but I also took a week off from lifting. Now I am wondering the same thing. I don't see how if you are normally supposed to eat every few hours, that you switch to a tiny little window and have to consume a huge amount of protein in that time period.

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Don't fast without lifting, I am pretty sure you need to lift to at least maintain muscle
Still wondering when protein is best taken, and if not taking protein thorough the day means you can't repair your muscles properly, can some user answer?

based

lost 2 kg in one week, wish I knew earlier about the fasting meme

Snakeman is working for me.

>started fasting around end of December. >Started logging weigh-ins on Dec 30th.

>Down 25 lbs since Dec 30th.

>Clothes fit way better.

I eat one meal per week. I pig out on meat, cheese, fats, until it hurts [which isn't all that much food any longer, actually]. I have a glass of whole raw milk with the meal.

I checked with keto sticks after my last feed and my urine ketones never dropped, so that glass of milk must not have been enough to majorly stop ketosis.

I work in an IT job but use a standing desk. Standing all day for work isn't a problem.

I did do some outdoor heavy activity and I was sucking wind really, really hard. I felt faint and got scared and had some fruit.

Here is what I can share
1) multi-day fasting really works
2) use snake juice
3) don't cheat. don't eat.
3a) if you do fuckup, fine. just resume fasting. as long as you are fasting more days than you are eating, you'll succeed.
4) don't do heavy physical activity
5) make yourself drink snake juice every day even if you don't think you need to
6) go to bed earlier, get more sleep
7) it feels absolutely great to notice your clothes fitting differently
8) it feels great to have people ask me if I am losing weight

Do it. long-term fasting is the easiest weight loss I've ever done.

I failed my water fast after 40 hours.

I'm gonna do it again next week when I'm not working, cause I had almost zero energy to keep on my feet all day, and needed to eat something.

I dno. i do tons of pushup and pullups,handstand pushups, boxing and thaiboxing. squats sprints and deadlifts in the weekend.
OMAD mostly.

>You could also substitute it with cinnamon.
absolutely not

what the fuck Veeky Forums, wasn't that guy supposed to use his fat for energy?

WHEN DO YOU TAKE THE PROTEIN
BEFORE OR AFTER LIFTING
WON'T THAT FUCK UP MUSCLE REPAIR THOROGUH THE DAY
ANSWER THIS REEEEE WE ALL WANT TO KNOW

i workout fasted. and no it doesn't eat my muscle.
IF increases HGH you know. amino acids are also stored in the body when eaten in excess.

night before rest days its mostly veggies protein and fat, days before workoutdays i carb up on sweet potatoes brown rice etc.

it can take a long time to get into ketosis where you're efficiently burning fat for energy.

it depends , everyone is different
some peoples can go out and come back in to ketosis very easily

pic related safe for no salt alternative?
im an idiot no bulli

I did keto right. I had my macros down and I lost 20lbs.

But that doesn't change the fact that it's hard to maintain for a long period of time. People may become keto adaptive, but is it worth permanently removing X food and Y drink from your life? Especially when you can lose the same amount of weight by eating less food and fasting? Why do keto in the first place, besides wanting to be a special snowflake

Clearly I touched a nerve. Good luck with your diet. But say good-bye to your social gains.

i'm not doing keto, just saying it's best for fatloss

I know. I'm speaking pass you.

I was 262lb on october 1st, I've done two fasts, a 43 day fast and 24 day fast, Im currently 196 pounds, (went down to 186 on breaking the 24 day fast 3 days ago, gained like 7-8 pounds in water weight)

It was very much worth fasting, I never would have expected to lose this much so quickly.

My quality of life has also improved massively and i no longer feel like a gigantic fat pile of shit.

I mean i'm still overweight and plan to still lose another 30-35 pounds, but Im not disgustingly overweight anymore.

Im about to reach 5 days and I havent shit since I started. I feel fine, no stomach pains, should I be worried?

No, it is normal. You're not eating you're gonna shit a lot less - possibly not shitting at all.

is it possible to go on really long runs fasted? I want to fast for a couple weeks to shave off excess fat, but I also run 20 miles every sunday, and I don't want fasting to ruin those

height?

Morton Salt Substitute comes in 3.12 ounce pack. A potassium chloride product designed for persons on a doctor-recommended sodium restricted diet. Use for cooking and at-the-table seasoning.
safe? sure