Player is bringing girlfriend even after argument

So a week or two ago I made a thread asking for advice on one of my players girlfriend insisting she comes along despite having no interest in the game.

I got some good advice, most of which centred on just being reasonable and talking to her. I had, what I thought was a reasonable talk with her in front of her boyfriend. I just asked if she was sure she wanted to play and that I knew from previous attempts at games with our friends that I didn't think it would be her thing. (last time we just played cards and she was bored and uninterested then) since I didn't want her to feel left out and be bored because that wouldn't be fun for herself or anyone else. Anyway, she's taken it as a huge personal attack but is still insisting she comes and plays.

Should I just call the game off? She'll probably just end up ruining it anyway.

Maybe stop being a jerk and let this woman play.

I'll take shit that didn't happen.

She doesn't want to play, she has no interest and only wants to come to be with her boyfriend. Which I understand. I've said to her we can do something else and can do the game some other weekend.

And it happened like 30 minutes ago.

So you were wrong and she wants to play and now you're thinking of calling the game off because of that?

I don't think she's the problem here.

>mfw OP doesn't want sluts at his game
If you don't put some MDMA in their drinks and turn the game session into a bisexual orgy, you're a massive faggot.

>her boyfriend
So your pic is entirely unrelated?

None of this happened. You're shitposting.

GIRLZ TEEJ, AMIRITE? ;)

Fuck off with this.

Just let her play. Worst case scenario: some chick stands in the back while the rest of the party does stuff.
If she begins to complain give her a better-phrased version of, "well you insisted."

Roastie, please leave.

Look dude, she wants to play the game and now that she does you're thinking about calling the entire thing off because reasons?

Holy shit dude, the only person being an unreasonable ass seems to be you, in this situation. You seem to be the one that's making this whole experience No-Fun for everyone involved.

Make sure she understands the game rules and go from there.

Get the fuck back to your containment board, robot.

quit making such a big deal out of it and let the girl play faggot it's just a game

I am literlly just here for the thread pic.
Stop being such a fag, fag.

People aren't actually autistic enough to use "roastie" unironically right?

t.roastie

They do, but only on /r9k/ and very, very rarely on /pol/.

OP here; looks guys, I know full well that she won't be active and contributing. This isn't about her wanting to play the game. I'm not making it No-Fun I just know that it will be No-Fun when we have one player sitting on their phone, sighing every two minutes and bringing down the overall mood the group!

If you think this isn't a problem for the DM then you are the sort of player I've just described!

GIRLZ
AMIRITE
TEEJ?

LOL

Just try it. If she's not enjoying it and actively making it worse, you'll have a reason you can cite for not inviting her again. If she turns out to be actually good, even better.
If you shut down the game so you won't invite her, you'll just look like an asshole.

Actually, I know what you mean. Just run the game, ensure she feels bored and disinterested. Then she'll never, ever want to come again.

Just do things like normal. Don't bend over backwards for her. Let her show up, and let her do...Well, jack shit. Don't give her any more attention than you have to.

Basically, she's doing this because she wants to see what her boyfriend gets up to when she's not around. She's suspicious. Ensure that she's bored out of her fucking mind, and then she'll never want to show up again.

Just run the game. You're being a dick right now. If she doesn't like it and makes it no fun, then you can say "she didn't like it and made it no fun"
Right now you're coming across as a childish weirdo and a little sexist

Bitches and whores. Rite guise?

This.

If you know she's gonna screw things up but nobody else believes it, permit her to demonstrate.

more like
SPECIFIC GIRL
AMIRITE
TEEJ?

LOL

you're obviously a girl as well btw.

LOL RITE
DEY RUIN TOYS WIV COOTIES

And then she comes the next time as well, bringing down the mood. And the next. And the next.

At which point is it okay to tell someone they fucking suck and shouldn't come anymore?

I'm New, what's roastie

>You aren't sexist, so you must be an icky girl
I thought we were adults here.

Man, this board has become cancer.

Run the game normally and try to engage her like all the other players.

Try to not look for only the bad things: she might not bring the mood down, instead just... be there.

After the session talk to the other players and see if they are okay with her being there and go off from that: if she really bothers the rest of the group -bar her boyfriend- you will have confirmed your suspicions. Only then should you stop inviting her.

This isn't about her being a girl. If the player was gay and his boyfriend had already demonstrated no interest in this activity I would have the same attitude. There is already one other girl in the group is the GF of another player and she's great.

Actually, it's become so much better ever since /d/ was almost exiled from here. "Is this magical realm?" garbage is really only a remnant, and it's nowhere as horrible as /d/egeneracy of the past.

After they sucked. How is this hard for you to get? Give her a chance, and if she actually makes the game bad because she doesn't want to be there, then you'll have a leg to stand on when you say you don't want her to play again

Goddamn dude, by letting her play you're running the risk of one bad game session. By pissing off your other players by not letting the gf play, you're risking fucking up your whole group

Wtf is everyone here presuming "sexism"?

I'm simultaneously female and a DM and I can perfectly empathize with not wanting Buzzkill Sig/Other making everyone uncomfortable. Quit the white knighting, already. It's fucking Veeky Forums.

This said I do believe the only option here is to bite the bullet and deal. Then tactfully talk to your crew, one on one, and ask them what they thought. If there's straight up bad blood between the two of you from a previous encounter, your buddy's being an ass.

It's pretty obvious she wouldn't have fun being there and just bring the mood down. She seems to be a huge pain in the ass, why have her around?

So she didn't enjoy a particular card game. How is that a good indication that she wouldn't like RPGs?

No one cares how you identify.

Having a vagina doesn't give you special insight or make your opinion any more or less valid.

Thanks for a reasonable answer. There's no bad blood between his girlfriend and myself, I'd even consider her a friend. But I know what she is like as we've already seen what's she like when it comes to even fairly innocuous stuff like just playing cards.
But I'll let her play, ruin a one off session and then use that to make my point about the next one.

Because it'll make the bf happy. Because it makes you seem like a reasonable person. Because if this comes up again with the same group you'll have better standing to say no. Because what if she gets into it and ends up being a good player?

If the rest of the group are touchy male feminist factors like half this board they won't believe it til they see it for themselves

>But I'll let her play, ruin a one off session and then use that to make my point about the next one.
Finally, you see some fucking sense.

>But I'll let her play, ruin a one off session and then use that to make my point about the next one.
Jesus Christ, dude. If that's your attitude, it sounds like YOU'LL be the one ruining the session.

This. As the DM, your mood will influence the game's mood, which will then influence the group's mood.

The Big Boy thing to do here is to DM, and help her out. Give her pointers/advice before or after games. Communicate with the group. Let the group communicate with each other. Don't be a fucking child.

Listen, man, take what you can get.
I'm DMing right now, and invited a wife to come over and give it a try. She's even nerdy and shit like the husband, but she said "No thanks."

Fast forward six sessions, and she keeps asking him to come home earlier and earlier so they can play WoW together. And she's also scary when mean, so he's understandably pussywhipped.
I'd rather she was here, even if she wasn't 100% into it for a few sessions, if he stopped leaving after a little over 2 hours. He left mid-fight last time, and I rolled for his dude the rest of the session.

Quit being such a fucking pussy.

He's the DM, he gets to decide what happens at the table. He already runs the session.

Had a player bring his wife along she was kind of like this. Roll with it for at least one session. She may end up getting into it when she realizes it's a social interactions game rather than a strategy game like cards or miniatures games

We told you to talk to her privately and find out what she thought. Instead you called her out publicly and lectured her on what you think think is what's good for her.

Nice job fucking it up, douchebag. This WAS her problem (possible lack of interest). As of now, it's become your problem with being too immature to handle having another man's gf in your group.

Learn some fucking communication skills. You took a legit problem and now have blown it up and made it worse.

She'll brew the greatest shitstorm ever and will turn your whole game group against you. Enjoy your nogames.

The issueis how he handled the problem, in a way that forces her to express interest she may not have and the bf to support her. He fucked it up himself with his ham-handedness.

Now he's compounding it with grand passive aggressive features that will destroy group. And at the end blame her.

Has nothing to do with her sex. It's his shit interpersonal skills.

>I didn't think it would be her thing. (last time we just played cards and she was bored and uninterested then)
Yeah because playing fucking card is the exact same as tabletop rpg.
Goddamn, you're a retard

If you were a decent gm, you'd run a game she might, even reluctantly, find enjoyable. I've done it. The girl got into the story, began writing me questions about her involvement and eventually married the guy who brought her to the game. I was the guy's best man.

I wkn't say she became a gamer for life. She eventually stopped playing but she's still married to the guy,, he still plays and his job, after each session, is to tell her what's going on... and she still asks me questions about the game's story.

She became my best female friend other than my own wife and it worked out real well because she's very good friends with my wife now, too.

What makes you think that, user?

I just spoke to her in a non-confrontational manner. I did it in front of her boyfriend so she couldn't accuse me of saying anything I didn't. He even agrees that I was being very reasonable. Also, since she doesn't leave his side then it was impossible to speak to her alone anyway.

You know, user, it sounds like you're gay for your player and jealous of his girlfriend invading the one activity you have with him.
I mean, after two threads on the matter, this feeling is growing stronger and stronger.

I just don't like seeing my games get fucked up. I'm tempted to drop this guy along with his girlfriend.

The GF of my best pal came once to our game. Fortunately she spent six hours straight playing candy crush and making little noise. Both of them stopped coming when the resident girl of the table had some feud IRL with my pal and her gf.

It really does.

I'm tempted to say your game is shit and you're a shit GM.

Stop being a fucking sperg and treat this shit like you're supposed to, a good time not some fucking specialist club.

see what I just said, if you can't accomodate people of varying taste and interests, then you aren't really the one that should be running games and hosting shit.

Do them a favor and drop them.

Do us a favor and kill yourself.

Y-you too.

ITT: cucks unironically white-knight for a female not interested in Tabletop who probably doesn't even exist

This is just sad to watch.

> cuck
> a female
I've got virgin bingo

>No, it's everyone else that's wrong.

Dude, everyone is telling you to do the one session, see where it goes, and move along.
You're going to drop someone because there might potentially be a bad session in the future. How do you know she won't get into this shit? Cards is another realm altogether than fantasy.

>Wow your an asshole because you do not accommodate that one person who comes to your games and isn't even interested in them

what

Nobody is saying anything about accomodating someone, you dumbfuck.

Did you just bingo yourself?

Look, these games have varying levels of interest and intent. Some folks are there to BS and have fun, some are there to seriously roleplay, some people are there just because their friends are there. As the host it is your job to bring these disparate folks together and maintain interest.

Look I won't fault you if you try and fail but if you don't try at all, yes you are an asshole. This is not your private fucking playtime, this is a social event, there will be some concessions made to accommodate people if you don't get that, maybe get a clue.

>I-I'm sure if I lie through my teeth I can look like a victim

OP is a fucking asshole because he's tempted to drop a player because his gf wants to play with them, and he thinks the gf will spoil the game just because "I know her" and "I played card with her, she didn't like it" even after she told him directly that she wanted to play, you bumbling retard.

>all this white knighting
If it was a dude, you guys would say to kick him from the group immediately

With that said, just play ONE more game with her normally and try to give her more interactions cues.
As it'll be good for her to realize it's more of a social game. Try to gain a new player.

If nothing changes then talk with her again, to either say what the hell she wants to or to stop going. Trying to satisfy these kinds of people is nothing but suffering.

>Nobody is saying anything about accomodating someone, you dumbfuck.

See > if you can't accomodate people of varying taste and interests

Are you literally too dumb to read, user?

>I'm thinking of calling the game off
>I'm tempted to drop this guy
>You are the sort of player I just described!

We're assholes because we're on Veeky Forums. Get fuk'd.
But we're assholes that care if a DM is going to shut shit down like he's Madagascar because he isn't meshing well with a girl that actively sought to get in his group.

Yes, there's a very real possibility she won't like it. You run that possibility with every new player.
It took my three groups to find a bunch of knuckleheads that work.

I'll say OP is a little bitch all the same. Kicking who from the group? The dude who bring him? Or the one who has not even played ONE game with them?
Oh yeah sorry, he got some ground here, the guy doesn't like fucking cards

If you can't handle a bump in the road because of course people are not equally interested or have the same expectations in a tabletop game, then you also shouldn't be running or probably even playing games.

I get that, you're right. I'm going to make an effort and try my best but I can already tell you how it's gonna go. And truthfully, I expect all the people flaming me in this thread know what the outcome is gonna be too.

>Look, these games have varying levels of interest and intent. Some folks are there to BS and have fun, some are there to seriously roleplay, some people are there just because their friends are there. As the host it is your job to bring these disparate folks together and maintain interest.

No sorry that doesn't make sense at all.
I offer to DM a tabletop game, if you want don't want to play but just to sit there because you trust issues when it comes to your bf why is it my problem?

>Look I won't fault you if you try and fail but if you don't try at all, yes you are an asshole. This is not your private fucking playtime, this is a social event, there will be some concessions made to accommodate people if you don't get that, maybe get a clue.

I cant tell of you are legit autistic or just trolling.

>Moving goalposts

Ah, I see you are legit retarded. Thank you very much, just wanted to confirm that.

Somebody who's genitals look like a badly packed roast beef sandwich

I'm just confused how OP can be so presumptuous and think that that's alright.

Oh yeah, I fully expect you to crash this game with no survivors, already assuming she won't like it.

Well, he's a shithead. That's not new here, we have lot of them.

>people are not equally interested or have the same expectations in a tabletop game

She has no interest or expectations!
This is the whole issue.

You presume.

You don't fucking know that, you shithead. You're just basing this on assumptions. Even worse, when the girl legit tell you she want to play, you assume she's just lying in your face because of jealousy or some shit

>I expect all the people flaming me in this thread know what the outcome is gonna be too.
yeah. No one is going to enjoy the game because you clearly are planning on not enjoying it. You'll blame the gf, the group will disintegrate, and you'll never, ever, not in a million years, realize or accept that it was your fault

Are you a fucking idiot?

Its not the GM's job to do that whatsoever. A GM is giving his time and effort to run it, he is well within his rights to get rid of people who are not actually invested. Why does this board despise GM's so much? You see the same thing when people act like its the GM's job to run what the players want instead of finding players who want to play what he enjoys.

>someone is recommending you try and understand that people don't all have the same exact interests and intent

Look, I get that autists don't understand social mechanics but don't act like everyone will meet your expectation for social action because everyone has different expectations.

You can pretend like this is a debate or an argument if you want but look, not everything works the way you want it to, that doesn't mean it's wrong.

No problem there, this is a solid opportunity to potentially get her interest. If someone just spergs out about it, of course it's no surprise a fair number of folks aren't interested.

It's just a social event, there is literally nothing wrong with liking it OR disliking it. You can either try to win her over on it or nor, but one is definitely more reasonable and social than others.

If it's a fucking chore for him, he shouldn't be running games.

I'm not being presumptuous. I talked with her, asked her if she was actually interested and wanted to play. She didn't even give me an answer. She just ignored me and started talking to her boyfriend, asking him why I was "having a go at her". Now, maybe I'm old fashioned, but does that sound like someone who wants to defend how intrigued they are by tabletop gaming or someone who is there to hang out with her boyfriend?

Please show your workings.

>ITT: OP is a prick who hates the idea of dealing with a bad player for one session so much he's willing to drop another player and shut down the game because of it. He also responds poorly to criticism.

> itt. things that never happened

Are you fucking serious?

That sounds like you acted like a fucking sperg, and she assumed you were either joking, or autist, or even sexist.

Yeah, that's "old fashioned", like asking a women if she really want to talk with the men instead of cooking, because you know, talking is intellectual and stuff.
That's how you sounded like.

No, if its a chore he should get rid of the people or situations who make it a chore.

Not make himself unhappy to please idiots on the internet. This board is completely backwards when it comes to how games work half the time.

It sounds like you were being a lot more aggressive than you think.
Look at it from her perspective. Someone she cares about does a thing. She wants to take part in it because it involves someone she cares about. And you go at her with both barrels, "Why do you want to do this?! How much energy are you gonna invest?! EXPLAIN TO ME RIGHT NOW WHY YOU WANT TO DO A SOCIAL ACTIVITY WITH YOUR BOYFRIEND!!!"

>if its a chore he should get rid of the people or situations who make it a chore.

>Prospective Player: OP, I want to play.
>OP: Oh, okay...but are you sure? I mean, really, REALLY sure?
>Prospective Player: Yes. I said so, didn't I?
>OP: Okay but I just want to be REALLY sure you want to do this we can totally do something else if you don't want to please don't ruin my game.
>Prospective Player: Why are you presuming that I will? You having a go at me?

This is probably how it went down.

Er, except that's not how it went at all. I told her that it wasn't for everyone and that was fine and even offered other things to do on a Saturday night.
Please don't assume I totally raged out on her. It only came to this because of previous social activities and I'd rather do something that takes less effort on my part if she's not going to invest any effort on hers. Which I think is fair, don't you?

Either you like running games and you're willing to accommodate folks to make those games happen (since fucking not everyone is gonna agree with all the expectations of tabletop the gm or other players have) or you're not.

The latter just involves the GM slowly getting rid of more and more players for being "inconvenient" then you can bet they'd be here complaining about how they never have players.