Literally in every argument about CSM and assault cannons ever, kiddo
>loyalist players so btfo they now say these arguments never existed in the first place
Christian Fisher
Look at this guy. He looks so cool!
Which Bloodthirster do you rank best, I wonder? I don't play Chaos, but I saw this guy and thought he looked awesome.
Elijah Perez
Ol' tatterwing.
Jason Rivera
How good are the "Legacies of ruin" from IA 13 for chaos space marine vehicles?
Ian Allen
Varies, some are pretty great.
Ian Robinson
5th for the Necrons
Brandon Rodriguez
>like the playstyle, thematics, models, basically everything about Tyranids >they're dogshit on the tabletop and have been for years and years >there's no update in sight, not even rumors of one
W-what do
I always wanted to get into this hobby, I finally have the disposable income to waste on it, but I'm not sure if I want to commit to an army that's just going to get stomped.
Juan Long
If you like the play-style, why are you complaining?
Evan Jones
So I guess there was a new Fenris leak for Mangus' Fury or something.
At least two or three new units for Tzeentch from what I am reading but that's including thousand sons.
Anyone hyped?
Sebastian Nguyen
They are fun to play as and playing against unless your local meta/FLGS is full of WAAC guys
Parker Cook
Tyranids aren't dogshit, they just have to utilise some key units to not suck, so you're gonna be always locked into some stuff but they're far from unplayable. Go wild.
Ryder Lewis
than change the way you want to play, make thematic armies, or just suck it up, or find a non-meta based playgroup? one thing you never want to do is play an army you don't want to play, just to win.
Leo Bell
please don't bring your shitfit into the new threat
Charles Sullivan
Honestly I'd just start collecting them and play midtier armies. GW is going to most likely do a campaign for them at some point, and why collect something you don't care for?
Blake Johnson
It's within the reason that I could use Raven Guard Tactics and model my army as Night Lords, right? Maybe even use some chaos bits and models. I think the Raptors look cooler than assault marines for example. Scouts are cool to me so I will definitely be using at least two squads for my troops that I need for the Combine Arms Detachment.
What are some other "stealthy" or "stabby" models would I want to include?
How are Landspeeder Storms?
At first I was going to use Chapter Tactics: Raptors that I found but I am afraid they are just strictly better Raven Guard and would be perceived as the "WAAC" choice.
I already have the Space Marine Codex and Seventh Edition Rulebook so I was hoping to go pick up a box or two of scouts at the local shop tomorrow or Saturday.
Maybe an Assault Squad or the Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs and a Jump HQ of some sort?
Benjamin Hill
I like the classic dog-head one. But he's a victim of scale creep and can't really represent a bloodthirster anymore.
Mason Mitchell
Thanks Veeky Forums. You guys make some good points, I'll just suck it up and start with Tyranids.
I guess I could always start a second army if I ever wanted to be a METAGAEM-ing faggot.
Brandon Evans
Destroyer > regular > wrath of khorne > skarbrand
why would i pay 300 points for a bloodthrister who only gains a weapon, adamatium will and hatred characters? skarbrand can kill anything provided he gets there. destroyer is slow but consistent D while the relic only does it on 6s to hit
Brody Smith
SO assuming the continuation of modern GW artists interpreting the models literally, here we have a new Tsons heavy weapon.
What do you think? Rotor cannon? mini-Gatling cannon? Assault Cannon? Something new entirely?
Benjamin Bell
ally with GSC if you feel you need that power boost!
Jonathan Martinez
Well, from the video we've seen >sorcerers on disks >power armoured rubics >tartaros termi rubics >a rubic with a rotary gun of some sort >tzaangors
Anthony Cox
Are 40k Tzaangors mutated human heretics or abhumans who fell to chaos?
Landon Bailey
...
Owen Jenkins
>enemy deep strikes in an Ironclad right next to my LRC and Missile Launcher >unload LRC >shoot with Multi-Melta, Melta and Krak Missiles >3 misses >charge with Assault Squad >Powerfist misses >Melta Bomb manages a Crew Shaken >Wipes 3/9 of my assault squad members with his counter attack >his Drop Pod kills 2 of my Tacticals >Lysander Deep Strikes in, scatters to land right next to my LRC >kills it the same turn with his other Terminators unloading from his Land Raider >Ironclad kills my remaining tacticals >only left with a 6-man Crusader Assault squad and a Command Squad on bikes after turn 1
Missing all this shit on that Ironclad sure was epic.
Camden Campbell
Yes.
Lincoln Flores
So are we getting a new 40k Ahriman model to go along with Warzone Fenris Part II? It looks like he and Magnus are teaming up for the raze Fenris plan, but it would be a bit weird for them to keep using his current model if that were the case.
I mean it is by no means as bad as say, the Phoenix Lords, but it is getting a bit dated.
Christian Martinez
>1850 pts of Tau vs Blood Angels >he's miles ahead for first 2 turns >he manages to set up a pair of potential charges into my broadside team and command squad, respectively, which would devastate me >a couple models die in OW >he rolls charge and fails for both by about an inch, because of the killed models >next turn, a few models from each unit survive my shooting phase, and he moves them within 1" on his turn >the rest die in OW >shakes my hand Tau are fun
Brandon Price
He got one in that prospero box.
Jeremiah Campbell
On the one hand, GW put out some of their best work ever in the tail end of the 2e era. On the other, they are still using it.
Easton Hernandez
That is a 30k model not 40k
William Parker
So I take it you're leaning on it being a legion rotor cannon. If so I hope it has some equivalent of malefic ammunition or Infernal bolts rather than just S3 Ap6 Salvo 3/4
Caleb Reed
ironclads are pretty tough, this guy managed to easily fight my double keepers. i completely forgot to smash and was relying on rending s6
Kayden Foster
Inferno bolt rotor cannon yes.
Lincoln Richardson
>S3 Ap3 Salvo 3/4 Inferno bolts, but jack up the price for the killing power.
Jonathan Edwards
Yes, because 30k Ahriman and 40k Ahriman look completely the same.
It's not like Kharn has a 30k model and got a new 40k model either.
Joseph Edwards
Could be, that's him on the left, so maybe he'll get a new model with a disk.
Nicholas Martin
Can another Tau player give a scale comparison between the XV9 Hazard and the XV95 Ghostkeel? Possibly including the commander for reference.
Robert Ward
or just the option for one.
Cooper Green
He still makes a decent demon prince.
And to the original question, Forge World bloodthirster all the way.
Levi Gutierrez
>A disc
Isn't Ahriman specifically trying to free his legion from Tzeentch? Why would he have a pet screamer?
Asher Edwards
>want to field ahriman on foot >have to pay extra because kit comes with a disk whether you want it or not Yep, seems legit for GW.
Oliver Smith
He still used the lore of tzeentch. Summoning and nailing a disc do the materiel realm seems in character.
Jose Fisher
If you don't want options, stick with the old metal Ahriman.
William Davis
If I'm stubborn about using Pask in a vanquisher, what's a good LR variant to stick with him to form the squad?
Cooper Ramirez
because flying melta bombs with teeth that move like jetbikes are adorable. also they eat grey knights good
Joseph Gray
I understand this pain
Landon Johnson
In the same way that the Iron Warriors take Daemons and shove them into cold metal shells and force them to do their bidding.
Abbadon the Armless doesn't want to rely on the gods either, but he knows he needs their power to do shit.
Jayden Miller
ive seen a lot of demolishers with pasqs at my flgs not guard myself, just what ive seen
Owen Long
your terrain looks like chocolate
Gabriel King
He is, but remember that we're talking about a character who believes with all his heart that he isn't a servant of the Dark Gods while he is in actuality one of their chosen champions.
He'll likely see it as him bending the creature to his own will, while it may in fact just be a gift from his unwanted benefactor.
Tzeentch is pretty damn fond of Ahriman, since he pretty much embodies all of Tzeentch's motifs. So I can see him doing a bunch of shit for him, and making his pawn think it was done via his own power.
Aiden Thomas
That's actually an unexpected choice. I was hoping for something that has more range synergy with the long ranged cannon, but since the Vanquisher is best for cracking tough vehicles, I'm probably going to split fire a lot anyway.
Kayden King
Hey Veeky Forums,
I'll be having a friendly game against space marines, using my Necrons.
Is a Doomsday Ark worth taking to counter Centurions and Terminators?
I'm just finishing up the model now, and looking for any excuse to field it.
Angel Adams
>I'm just finishing up the model now, and looking for any excuse to field it. Do you like it?
Logan Reed
Tzeentch fucking loves Ahriman. The Big Nine is giving Ahriman the greatest gift he can give anyone: Death and to be free from the Great Game.
Dominic Evans
ASSAULT CANNONS WITH INFERNO BOLTS
S6 AP3 RENDING ON RUBRIC HAVOKS MEANS MORE GATTLING CANNON SHOTS THAN A NIGHT WARDEN, ON S&P INFANTRY WITH INVULNERABLE SAVES WITH A SORCEROR
little known fact, willy wonka was actually a daemon prince hellbent on ruling the world through confectionery and would've gotten away for it if not for Lord Colgate.
Aiden Jenkins
And that probably also costs more than Knight Warden.
But yeah. Unless proven otherwise, Thousand Sons will rock. GSC proved that GW can make minor factions powerhouses if they want to so TSs might as well be good.
Thomas Jackson
I have a lore question, does trazyn collect chaos artifacts? if so, how does he keep them from affecting the rest of his collection.,
Jonathan Wilson
A ree man.
Xavier Ross
>ASSAULT CANNONS WITH INFERNO BOLTS
John Barnes
>INFERNO CANNONS WITH ASSAULT BOLTS
Michael Jackson
>BOLT CANNONS WITH ASSAULT INFERNOS
Connor Hernandez
all the guard players at my shop try for split fire on them every turn
Jace Martin
this is how I do it
Evan Brown
I hope Fenris gets destroyed. GW will not kill the wolves but they can at least make them a fleet based chapter (wolves have enormous fleet).
Brody Thompson
What's the point of the Tempestus Scions formations?
Under what circumstances would you play a game with over 500 points of flyers? The rules are nice but I don't know anyone who owns more than two Valkyries.
Similar problem for the ground assault formation, except its not so much that there's little reason to have so many fliers in your game, is more that I can't stand looking at the Taurox.
Lucas Powell
Can't wait for the assault cannon to require a full 9 man Tson squad and cost 50 points
Joshua Barnes
>fenris is kill >enraged russ emerges from the warp and beats the shit out of magnus
Joseph Ramirez
Thanks for the link, and it's pronounced pretty much exactly as it is spelled. Though rather than "man" at the end it sounds more like "mahn" if I recall correctly.
This would actually be pretty cool in my opinion. It would be nice if this event actually has long lasting consequences like that.
And since there were rumors about a War in the Webway with the Thousand Sons I'm sure they will get out of this event mostly fine.
James Perry
>I don't know anyone who owns more than two Valkyries. Hello. I have 4 Valkyrie/Vendettas (thanks 5th edition) and 3 Vultures.
Andrew Gutierrez
>Thinking about buying the Tau Xmas set >Didn't want to buy any more Warhammer due to backlog >Didn't want to buy more 40k because 8th is
Joseph Ramirez
I would assume that Fenris will get destroyed (fits the whole chaos rising/ 5min before twelve narrative for the next edition)
Anthony Kelly
Ok.
Jace Clark
I pronounce it AR-AH-MAN, (probably due to minor dislexia of first seeing his name as Arhiman)
though it might be closer to AH-RE-MAN (RI same as Ring)
Cameron Gomez
You get some neat special rules.
I wish Taurox Primes weren't so costly in points.
Xavier James
>Ahriman is evil because he is willing to do anything to accomplish his goals. Those goals might be noble, but if you stand between him and them, you have no chance. He will reduce populations to dust, betray people, and use the worst aspects of the Warp if he needs to, and he won’t even think twice. Anyone’s suffering does not matter. Anyone else’s view or survival does not matter. If you need to suffer or die for something he needs, then that is just the way it’s got to be. It’s not that he enjoys it; it’s that he thinks that it is unimportant. It’s not gleeful, gloating evil, it’s the cold indifference of true evil. >And just to top it off, that goal is all a lie, and the end he seeks, while walking through ashes and atrocity, is not salvation, but deeper damnation.
Okay, while French is by no means one of my favorite authors at BL, I have to admit, he pretty much nailed Ahriman's character in that post. Love it when people can show how a character can be sympathetic while still showing they are horrible individuals.
Adam Brown
>Ahriman is evil because he is willing to do anything to accomplish his goals Ahriman is pretty GOAT desu, shame French calls him "evil"
Kevin Gutierrez
i know i'm late to the party here but it literally says it shouldn't have gets hot in the errata you dinguses
Jaxon Anderson
Well you have a few options
1. buy a lot of weed so you can pass the time quickly 2. Man the fuck up and finish your backlog and then buy new units 3. Continuously buy new units until you have no money or will to continue building them and eventually sell them on eBay to me for a low low price
Isaiah Hall
Why don't the space wolf ice guns have gets cold?
Charles Martin
why don't you have a mute button.
Nathan Green
Get some of that forgeworld loving so you aren't locked into the same 5x flyrant list.
Lincoln Martin
I fucking hate that GW stopped selling seperate bits, really want those wings for my Slaanesh Demon Prince.
Christian King
This is text, bub.
Jace Butler
@50291431 >idiot implies rotor cannons and assault cannons, one Heresy era weapon that was a mass produced stubber, the other an experimental Heresy item that was refined to a standard mark and is still prone to catastrophic failure, are the same
Hudson Roberts
Just realized how fuckhueg that thing is, forget what I said.
Cooper Powell
Woah, the newfaggotry here
Austin Bailey
I can't enter BL, GW, FW, WH TV facebook it shows me error with no clues what the fuck is going on. Can anybody help me?
James Thomas
So what are the current meta armies and lists/formations?
Mason Miller
bike/suit/pod/summon spam
Austin Walker
Farseers/scatbikes/wraithknights
Nathaniel Cooper
Works for me.
Charles Jones
>tfw I have Thousand Sons but now the new sculpts will clash with the olden aesthetic too much so I can't technically buy any.
End my life, Russ.
Jackson Young
Wait until the models release before you bitch and moan.
Nicholas Smith
Fucker, I own 2 full squads and a squad from Wargame Exclusive
You think that's gonna stop me? You sound like too much of a bitch to own Tsons
Samuel Johnson
Same way i feel about most (Insert faction) whiners
Brody Wright
Gw's policy is that art must be identical to the miniatures themselves, and the art is pretty sexy.