MTG LEGACY GENERAL

This is the reason why Stax is my favorite Legacy deck. You made me proud, son.

Not at all. That's just what I use commander for. Fun casual decks for fun casual formats, srsbsns competitive decks for srsbsns competitive formats.

I'd love to brew something, but I feel like without the chance to test much and with a limited card pool I'll be in the perpetual 0-X bracket.

Been theorizing a Gifts Ungiven storm deck, but it's in the early, early stages of development and appears to be going nowhere fast.

>Definitely going to cut xantid swarm, adding a 2nd surgical and a 2nd echoing truth. Any other thoughts?

I definitely agree that Xantid's not worth it. Every time I tried it, it ate a Force (not terrible, but not fantastic, either). Though it's the only answer to a ridiculously stacked hand, that's really the only thing I feel like it does well.

I have a pretty divergent opinion about Echoing Truth from that of most of the Storm community. People keep telling me Hurkyl's is too narrow because it only hits artifacts, but I feel like Echoing Truth is too narrow because it doesn't hit targets with differing names. So Chalice-Thorn still locks us out, and I think Chain of Vapor is generally better against single targets. Truth is definitely a good card (and it's obviously better against tokens), but I don't think I prefer it to more specialized bounce/removal.

Surgical sounds like a good plan if you're dealing with lots of Reanimans. I don't run it at present, but that may change going forward.

I'm still interested in testing Slaughter Games against Miracles.

After goldfishing doomsday for a while, my only question is: why do you run a lotus petal?

Is there a situation where you want to slip it into the doomsday pile, or does it just make it easier to play around wastelands and mana disruption?

I've ended up cutting gravehate from my sideboard entirely. I found that it wasn't doing enough.

primarily Petal is used in some piles. The opportunity cost of running it is low, since it's perfectly fine outside of piles and can sometimes let you win a turn earlier. But there are a handful of situations/piles where you cannot win without a petal. Imagine a situation like this: your hand is Dark Ritual, Doomsday, Burning Wish, and you have SDT, Swamp, Island, Vocanic island on the field. You know your opponent only has Red Elemental Blast for interaction. You can cast Doomsday off the ritual, and pile LED, LED, LED, Petal, Burning wish. Top draws LED, you wish for your sideboard draw 4, and you need the petal in the pile to recast the SDT. This pile and variations on it aren't that uncommon and good for beating red blasts.

Interesting. Thanks!

My logic with echoing truth is that most of the time when people play hate (at least locally) they prefer to double up on it rather than diversify, which I can punish better. Recall also doesn't stop sanctum prelate, thalia, leyline, or iona on black.

As cute as surgical is, I don't know if it's fast enough to be worth the slot - I assume you name CB with it?

Also as an aside, our meta was hella fucked up, I don't think any two people had the same deck tonight. The field was:
>ANT (me)
>Burn
>Sultai Delver
>BR Reanimator
>Eldrazi
>LEDless dredge
>Elves
>Loam Depths
>Tezzerator RoflThopter
>Worldgorger Infinite
>2-Land Belcher
>Painter
>D&T
>High Tide
>Miracles
And one deck I just don't remember seeing. There were 16 of us.

>Brainstorming in your upkeep with a Sylvan Library down seems like a judge's worst nightmare.

Nah, it's just awkward because the guy doing it has to call a judge and the judge has to watch what cards he drew and what cards he put back due to the mess of hidden information happening.

I love Sylvan Library, it's a candidate for my favorite Magic card ever, but boy did they template it in an awkward way. If it was just "ATBO your upkeep look at the top three cards of your library and put them back in any order, then you may pay 4 life up to two times to draw a card" we wouldn't have problems.

See this, this is the reason the format is dying, unless your in a gp with money on the line there is zero reason for you not to tell them how the interactions work

Even if you beat them you didnt actually win, you fucking scummed them, this is the kind of shit you dont see at the professional level unless your an asshole like gerard Fabiano, the most enjoyable part of legacy is playing with new people and if you want people to actually stick you need to not scum them out

Its small things, like when someone plays a needle against me and names LED the first thing I tell them is that its a mana ability and it doesnt actually work and unless they were assholes beforehand ill usually let them rename

Seriously guys were better than that, keep that shit in modern general