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Also, Three Pallas speeders or three custode dickbikes with corvae pulsers?
Kevin Cook
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James Nguyen
I've doomed my legion forever, haven't I?
Dominic Jones
They've been doomed for a long time.
Jeremiah Flores
Oh well. I wonder how long it will take for this thread to pick up? Most Burgers should be off work by now.
Jose King
It's v day. It's times for getting it in or crymaxing. Maybe both.
Lincoln Perry
Oh riiight. My girlfriend lives with me now and neither of us really cares. Whats your excuse?
Leo Robinson
1,200 miles
Isaiah Myers
>crymaxing is that jerking it while crying or is it using your dissapointment as fuel in the gym to hit a new PR? because i did both
Lincoln Davis
Deadlift, Bench or Squat? And whats your total for all three? Deployed?
Justin Kelly
>Deployed? Nah, just across the country with senpai.
>whathasthisthreadbecome
Kayden Rivera
>senpai haha didn't know Veeky Forums changed "f a m" to senpai that's so weeb I love it.
More black custodes!
Lucas Russell
it also changes t b h to desu
Henry Hughes
Is that your phone photo? Or from an earlier dump?
Nathan Moore
Earlier dump
Samuel Cox
Wait, wut? I thought they all wore gold.
Colton Collins
hit lmao3pl8 on my deadlift, and i'm on 1pl8 bench and 2pl8 squat it ain't great, but it's progress
Michael Robinson
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Lincoln Green
>adeptus titanicus
I'm hyped but I also want infantry
FW pls
Discussion topic: 3rd party models and proxies. What's the good shit you've found, what's the worst examples you've seen, etc?
Dominic Gutierrez
Does anyone know where I can get the Epub of the Taghmata List? The PDF is all well and good, but I'd like the Epub for taking to the FLGS.
Evan Harris
How quickly do you think FW will get out the Inferno FAQ?
Luis Hughes
>adeptus titanicus I am also hyped. If the Warlord is the size of a plastic knight at the very least i'll have some badass knights.
Month, maybe. I dont know why FW is so behind on FAQs considering GWs recent faqqing spree.
James Bell
June, probably
Joseph Ramirez
I disappointed with the typos and wargear errors mostly.
Christian Perry
I'm dissapointed with the majority of peoples ineptitude at basic reading comprehension. Hell most don't even read the rules it seems.
It doesn't help that sometimes it is FWs fault though.
I read the SW rules once and thought "Ha nope." and refuse to look at them now.
Jaxon Torres
>Hell most don't even read the rules it seems. There's almost always some wishlisting/RAW interpretation that goes on with every release that I'm used to. Example would be the Sekhmet termis and their powers and people arguing they have access to all but they can choose on pyromancy/telekinesis. Or the Wolves being annoyed that cant attach characters to their slayer squads and get their bonuses.
But oversights in wargear, force maul and frost swords say, directly influence modeling and that triggers me immensely.
Theres also potential rule oversights that I'd like an answer on, such as whether Magnus should be able to shoot his witchfires out of the new TSons robots. Because he doenst have the LA TSon's special rule he can currently use them, which could be intended or its could have just been missed.
Adrian Sanders
>force maul Force Stave. They are called Force Staves
Julian Ortiz
Tell that to FW mate.
Lucas Diaz
I did. They haven't gotten back to me yet.
Christian Morris
>Example would be the Sekhmet termis and their powers and people arguing they have access to all but they can choose on pyromancy/telekinesis That's easily solved by reading. "They may choose..." So, they may, but don't have to choose. What do you do then? Follow the basic rules for psykers and generate form whats available. Nothing crazy there.
The FnP vs their pinning rule is the stupid one. FnP is a special rule like smash. It's not part of the save process. So they both occur at the same time. That one is GWs fault for not just making FnP a save instead of this weird retroactive rules timing nightmare that it is now. I have no idea why they made it so unnecessarily complicated. I want FnP to be fixed in 8E.
Noah Nguyen
DL-515 (conventional) Skwat-455 Bench-315
I'm a big guy
Brandon Bailey
Go ahead and ask them if my power fist can have a power fist as well thanks.
Jacob Thomas
and if the custodes bike guns can spoon another gun
Nathaniel Phillips
>That's easily solved by reading. "They may choose..." But do you think thats intended? I personally dont thing so, but RAW. If it read 'must choose from' there wouldnt be a problem.
>The FnP vs their pinning rule is the stupid one. It will be FAQed to be the same as the wargear ruling IMO.
Dominic Wood
stop making me feel bad about my weak PRs congrats tho those are pretty phenomenal numbers
Lucas Nelson
I've been lifting for close to seven years now, since late freshman year in high school. Lost over 225 pounds, from 495 to 270 @ 6'6" (225kg to 122kg, @1.98m)
Dylan Robinson
which is why I don't care that I can't paint eyes on my marines as well as others. My hands are fucked.
Dominic Peterson
>Lost over 225 pounds
Good job, user.
John Myers
>But do you think thats intended? I personally dont thing so, but RAW. If it read 'must choose from' there wouldnt be a problem. Which part? The choosing? 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt. They used "generate" for every other psyker in the book. So they know the difference and deliberately said "choose".
Or do you mean rolling elsewhere? It does say "May", and they've been shown to use may and must in different places so they know the difference there. Them not including the alternative is what's weird about it. Was it supposed to be "May choose rather than rolling."? They would have had a restriction to only TK and PM too if that were the case. But if it was "May choose from PM or TK or generate from other available..." you would think it would have said that as well. I personally think they wanted to keep it brief considering where the text is. Plus Sekhmet can be drawn from every other Cult Arcana, if they studied the other schools why wouldnt they be able to draw powers from there? I guess they just really like TK and PM for some reason though,
Aaron Reyes
It would be nice if they clarified though. Different people read things differently, so it is always nice when they don't word things partially ambiguously.
Jacob Stewart
>Or do you mean rolling elsewhere? Yes.I dont
>But if it was "May choose from PM or TK or generate from other available..." you would think it would have said that as well. Thats my reasoning for it being unintended, and I dont think then need rolls on biomancy honestly.
Nathaniel Diaz
I dont understand the argument for them not choosing honestly.*
Dylan Butler
>Different people read things differently
Some people read "choose from powers from X & Y" means that the other 4 disciplines are excluded. Others think it means they can actually choose powers instead of rolling on those tables.
Andrew Cook
Personally I don't think RAW it need clarification. There's no ambiguous rules language to follow if you've read the rule book. There's no other potentially correct interpretation.
A confirmation of intent is different from a clarification.
Now if they printed the wrong version entirely that'd be different. Something that would not surprise me.
>>But if it was "May choose from PM or TK or generate from other available..." you would think it would have said that as well. >Thats my reasoning for it being unintended, and I dont think then need rolls on biomancy honestly. I'll echo my previous statement about keeping it brief because of where the rule is located. It's a small italicized note from an asterisk. Making it too wordy there would be messy. They could have avoided it entirely if they gave them a special rule like "Fire and Stone" in their rules and then spelled out how exactly to do their powers. Would have been clean and easy. But It's FW; They're bad at writing rules on a general level.
They can think that, they'd be wrong RAW. But they can think that. Don't forget the word "May" in "May choose". It's the Atrapos as LoW for marines all over again.
We can't argue RAI based off of gut feelings. We can, like I have done, draw parallels of other similar instances(Like my example of how the other psykers say "generate" so we know FW knows the ramifications of "may choose powers" vs "must generate") to deduce the probable RAI. Even in this case where RAW has one path to objectively follow, it's FW. They're bad at rules. I love them, but rules are their weakest aspect.
Jackson Scott
eyes are fucking gay anyways, just let the flesh wash settle in and leave it as is
Nathan Clark
Bikes, those lascannons are solid, and it has melee ability as well. Pallas with adrathic guns may be good if they enemy likes their monstrous creatures/characters, but against all enemies, the jetbike is a better option.
Jonathan Diaz
RAW is just plain awful now. Going by strict RAW, only HQs and compulsory units would have an Arcana buff because no TS unit explicitly has "Cult Arcana" in the profile - not even the special characters - and TS legion rules say nothing about "Cult Arcana" as a legion characteristic native to psykers (the only mention of it being rules lore).
Yes, Brotherhood of Psykers = Cult Arcana. But its not even explicitly stated, which means RAW says Magnus doesn't get a Cult Arcana buff.
Ian Nguyen
it's like you want your marines to miss their shots
Charles Richardson
No, Cult Arcana is part of the "Legiones Astartes: Thousand Sons" rule. All of the legion rules have multiple parts; the TSs' just spreads to the second page.
Evan Rivera
my marines have such extensive cybernetics that eyes arent necessary anymore THE FLESH IS
W E A K E A K
Tyler Robinson
"eyes are fucking gay" - Veeky Forums, 2017
Evan Lee
I'm looking at it right now. Cult Arcana isn't mentioned until page 3. There is no mention of Cult Arcana in the typical "following provisions" list where Legion-unique characteristics would normally be listed. Theres a rule for Veterans and Terminators being able to take Brotherhood of Psykers, but again nowhere does it state Brotherhood of Psykers = Cult Arcana.
Autistic interpretation I know, but my point is pure RAW doesn't even work anymore.
Austin Green
Look closer. Pages 2 and 3 are out of order. It's an issue with the .pdf, not the rules.
Andrew Mitchell
speaking of, what the fuck is the profile for the castellax-achea power claws?
Leo Butler
Huh. You're wrong as pointed out, but you just made me realise Magnus doesnt get a Cult and cant shoot witchfires out of the psychic Castellax. No Legionary Astartes(Thousand Sons) rule means it doesnt work for him.
Gavin Wilson
>People expecting FW to release a FAQ within a reasonable time that will answer all the typos and unclear rule muble-jumble
Jason Roberts
Daily reminder that there's nothing wrong with Inferno and if you think there is, you shouldn't be playing the game, it's just too hard for you.
Dylan Ross
Still waiting for an FAQ for IF
Jaxson Jones
>Nothing wrong with Inferno >Not at all >Totally worth every penny that it costs
Jonathan Young
Screw Magnus he doesnt need the help. Im curious if TSon unit can cast witchfires whilst in combat from the robots.
The Psi-locus rule say that they 'may use one of the models in the Castellax-Archea as the origin point of the power' when using witchifres. And it the Castellax arent in combat they should still be able to fire witchfires still yes?
Julian Ross
Still waiting to know what type of Ally Daemons are for a WB army with Erebus or Layak.
Jose Morales
Withfires cannot be used in CC because they are shooting attacks correct? If so then its seems possible that they can do that.
Liam Gomez
When Forgeworld delays Inferno, they're not editing their best. They're not writing about the BA. They're not writing about the DA. They're writing about legions that have lots of problems...and they're bringing those problems to the book.
They have OP shit, they have typos, they're leaving tourists and some, I assume, is good fluff, but I speak to leakers and they tell us what we're getting.
And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. And it's gotta stop, and it's gotta stop fast.
Angelus will make /HHG/ great again. For realsies this time :^)
Nathan Campbell
I'm now imagining a sorcerer and his Castallax familiar buddy wading into combat, the sorcerer protecting Big John from the evil termies and holding them off while directing Big John to spam witchfires on the rest of the enemy army.
Jack Torres
trumpshitters gotta shit.
Adam Robinson
Makes you wonder what the delays were even for. Better yet, makes you wonder if its worth buying the other books.
James Wood
Like this pic, but more egyptian, and the same amount of witches.
Jackson Jackson
That's what you get when the thread slows down. I need my meme fix, user!
Bentley Williams
Don't buy it. Do what we all do. Wait for Scanon.
Parker Price
BUT I WANTED TO HOLD THE BOOKS THE BIG BLACK BOOKS
Leo Walker
Alan Blighe said they were supposed to be fists at the weekender
Jace Murphy
I love Scananon and don't want to put pressure on him. Won't even adress him with a title, lest we get a Monarchia of our own. Believe in his works.
Adam Ross
scanon is gone, user he isnt at university anymore and doesnt have access to the scanner he used to give us such excellent scans before
Levi Carter
Inferno would have been great, but GW kept holding up the FW's editor general and secretary of rules in committee as well as getting sympathetic judges to issue stays on rule clarifications. All of Inferno's faults are just GW being jerks because they're upset that FW proved the better company.
Austin Perez
I hope there are some models to go with inferno
Logan Jackson
How many turns will it take to wipe out these Iron Hands?
Carter Sanders
>That necron wathcing his mate getting fried in the background] Lol
Mason Taylor
Actually, I have 13 more days until my University Login is invalidated. So if Inferno can get here in less than a week, I can and will do the scan. Though hope is the first step on the road to disappointment, and I suspect it won't get here in time.
Aiden Smith
That's just like...hey, are we still memeing? Fake news! We ought to put the blame on a singular topic instead of realizing it's an interwoven chain of errors where everyone has some degree of blame!
Jordan White
All of them.
Gavin Parker
What are those cute orange skull markers, and why is Kharn wielding a boarding shield?
Carson Baker
looks like wounds, and probably because it looks fucking cool
John Green
we can only hope godspeed scanon
David Murphy
What's a powerful but unfluffy combo for your legion, Veeky Forums?
Aiden Howard
Khorne agrees with you.
Camden Hall
>That trashed mastodon
God I wish they werent shit
Owen Thomas
any more pics?
Tyler Howard
Nails of Truth
Jordan Martinez
Heavy Flamer Jetbike Command squad with a T5 Eternal warrior Mastercrafted Thunder Hammer 3++ Praetor...for the Salamanders.
Adam Rogers
>Kharn wielding a boarding shield >Now want to model a WE captain beating the fuck out of another marine with a boarding shield
So many ideas, so little time ... and money.
Matthew Miller
If you field a shield captain, you're already an asshole.
Bentley Lopez
WIP Shield Captain Goldfister.
Who's ready for a good fisting?
He's actually magnetized, made the shield and fist for whenever I feel like being an asshole.