So, Veeky Forums...

Not OP here, just curious. Why do people in general think that hard determinism is juvenile? I will admit that the way OP started this thread was quite obnoxious, but whenever I mention that I think there is no free will, I always get the "babby's first metaphysics" reaction.

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>to detect particles that have no possible practical application
They said the same thing when the neutron was discovered.

Jimmy Neutron is a cartoon character you cuntsmuggler

It's true, what the comic says, but why should it change my opinion? The best guess I have is that the universe is deterministic, and I aknowledge that that might not be true, for the reasons the comic states. But how is it "fighting" to pretend I have freewill, when I don't believe I have. How is accepting what I believe to be true "perishing like a dog"?

Oh, I am "perishing like a dog", because I accept a fact that has absolutely no impact on how I live?

While you strive for something more than materialist nihilism

Also, you can be a determinist and still value shit, there's absolutely nothing stopping you from enjoying and treasuring stuff as a determinist.

>While

Will*

intrisic value is different
Donald: there's nothing to be recognized outside chemicals
Mickey: there is value in recognizing that chemicals cannot be recognized

Please expand, I must admit that I am not very well read philosophically. What is material nihilism?