Ok. So I've got a working understanding of Hegel and German Idealism in general, have read some secondary material, the Manifesto and am well aware of the political and historical context in which it was written.
I'm now ready to start reading Capital I think. I'm looking for the most respected translation/edition that is currently in print for English. I'm not looking for anything abridged or annotated if possible.
Don't ever post leftist nonsense on here again, cuck.
Pick up Mein Kampf instead
Elijah Cruz
>say Josh, are you still working in McDonalds after leaving high school?
Isaac Kelly
>>> Marxists.org
Henry Johnson
There are only two translations in English. The Samuel Moore translation was done after Marx had died but Engles wrote the preface. The other one which is the penguin one is the one used by David Harvey and he seems to know a lot about it. Just choose one, both translators have a deep understanding of Marxism and you are not going to miss out on anything important with either translator.
Blake Wright
Get the Penguin edition with the introduction by Ernest Mandel [he's a Trotskyist fart so his opinons can be easily ignored], it's a translation from the last revision (1872–1875) Marx actually oversaw himself in his lifetime [the French one].
No, the version on marxists.org there is shit don't read that
Ayden Powell
Kapital is Marx's only relevant work today. You should have skipped the manifesto. Then again, it's a short read, so whatever.
Adrian Sanders
I thought leftists weren't supposed to be elitists
Ayden Allen
Actual leftists (meaning they want public control of means of production) aren't, but liberals are. Especially white, middle-class and up liberals.
Blake Nelson
Read Smith'S Wealth of Nations first, and then Ricardo's Principals of Political Economy
Andrew Powell
The Ben Fowkes translation of Capital is the best one available, published by Penguin in association with New Left Books.
Christian Jones
Oh, and this is a handy little primer. Just don't treat it as a substitute for the book.
There's also Prof. David Harvey's free series of online lectures on Capital: davidharvey.org/
Benjamin Bell
>pick up the prison diary of a white supremacist hack painter/failed soldier gone politician/war criminal
>over the writings of the most important economist, journalist, and political philosopher ever
>>/pol/ is hilarious sometimes
Christopher Robinson
I don't care for Hitler any more than I do Marx, but using personal attacks against the former to defend the latter is a hilariously slippery slope.
>hack painter >hack philosopher
>failed soldier >failed anything but sitting at home and writing bullshit
>war criminal >ideology inspired some of the greatest human tragedies of the 20th century in not only Russia, and Eastern Europe, but China as well
They're both assholes, and they should both be read and understood. At no point did OP sound like he was going full commie, but to be fair to you, the user you're responding to was being very "hurr durr right wing."
Dylan Walker
The french one is a "simplified one" because french weren't as "intellectuals", as I remember reading. Do you think is better anyways?
Chase Wood
>At no point did OP sound like he was going full commie And even if they did, it's not as though authoritarian Marxists represent the whole spectrum of communist thought, or even Marxist thought.
Michael Collins
>Don't post leftist nonsense >Pick up Mein Kampf cognitive dissonance is strong with this one
Liam Watson
your bourgeois liberal centrist is showing, comrade
Colton Rivera
>le National Socialism has "socialism" in the name, so the Nazis were left-wing meme xD
Sebastian Cooper
>it's not as though authoritarian Marxists represent the whole spectrum of communist thought, or even Marxist thought.
Just most of it.
Aaron Davis
>"Marxism exists in nineteenth-century thought as a fish exists in water; that is, it ceases to breathe anywhere else."
Benjamin Wood
There are probably more anarcho-communist, council communist, and autonomist Marxist theorists than authoritarian Marxist ones.
Joshua Perry
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Grayson Mitchell
Er, yes, really. Are you even familiar with the non-vanguardist thinkers?
James Gomez
What, all 3 of them?
Nathan Rogers
Here's a few to be getting on with:
Jan Appel Alexander Berkman Murray Bookchin Amadeo Bordiga Maurice Brinton Carlo Cafiero Cornelius Castoriadis Marc Chirik Emilio Covelli Onorato Damen Gilles Dauvé Daniel De Leon Guy Debord Joseph Déjacque Sébastien Faure Emma Goldman Herman Gorter Daniel Guérin E. T. Kingsley Karl Korsch Peter Kropotkin Gustav Landauer Karl Liebknecht Rosa Luxemburg Nestor Makhno Errico Malatesta Paul Mattick Albert Meltzer Grandizo Munis Gavril Myasnikov Antonio Negri Anton Pannekoek Fredy Perlman Rudolf Rocker Otto Rühle Karl Schröder Volin Colin Ward
Landon Robinson
Never heard of them, which is no doubt for the best.
Adrian Perry
Yes we don't need your half ass opinions about something you know little about,
Jack Richardson
>Never heard of them Which is somewhat different from asserting that they make up a minority in the communist intellectual current.
Matthew Rivera
I know a lot about it. I don't see how showing me a list of nobodies disproves that.
>the communist intellectual current.
We call that a paradox.
Elijah Parker
>I know a lot about it. All evidence to the contrary.
Jackson Robinson
>We call that a paradox.
Kek, blown the fuck out.
Elijah Mitchell
>blown the fuck out.
You can't make it less obvious that you're fellating an idiot's ego?
Gavin Miller
It's like Wilde is in the room with us.
Brandon Wood
>"Foucault exists in twentieth-century thought as a fish exists in water; that is, it ceases to breathe anywhere else."
Brayden Green
>Implying both aren't true
Jaxson Mitchell
>Implying either is.
Angel Nguyen
What's it like to be proud of ignorance? Do you also enjoy reality tv?
William Rodriguez
Yeah, sure showed
Ian Gomez
Fuck you I won't do what you tell me
Christopher Collins
Communism doesn't promote elitism as an ideology, but most of the communists(not those meme liberal college trash) have good education/educated themselves to an extent that they become elitists as time passes.
Isaac Bailey
>but most of the communists, and I've met most of them . . .