>Virginia Woolf is a more effective writer than James Joyce because she does not rely on elaborate language devices that ultimately confuse and alienate the reader.
-my prestigious PhD English teacher who went to yale and harvard.
Veeky Forums utterly BTFO
None of you faggots have the credentials to dispute her claim.
How do you feel that you're fucken done?
Lucas Gutierrez
>implying
Hudson Garcia
Try reading either first
Jonathan Sullivan
Do your own homework sweetie, you can play on the internets later.
Elijah Sanchez
effective*
*only when this word is interpreted in such a way as to suggest what woolf tries to achieve in writing is more successful than the attempts of joyce
i mean i'm sure the argument has a bit more meat to it but hiding it behind the use of the word 'effective' is not a postgrad move, unless i severely overestimate postgrad
Carson Watson
>dispute her claim >her claim >her
Noted.
Cooper Price
appeal to authority fallacy
try again
Andrew Myers
It's a personal opinion, m8. Can totally see preferring Woolf over Joyce.
Jaxson Morgan
I feel like James and Nora just look so painfully but effortlessly cool, like they're some super cool underground indie band, in that picture. And I mean painfully in the sense it causes you to desperately wish you could be like them in some way. So I put the kind of comments from such people as massive jelly on their part.
Here's Woolf being tryhard fedora af for comparison.
Thomas Hughes
>itt: people who haven't read Joyce or Woolf
Alexander Brown
she looks like a fucking dude
also, joyce's wife is pretty hot in that OP
Tyler Ward
looks like oscar wilde lmao no wonder she killed herself
William Russell
that's dawter
Adrian Peterson
>her claim And but so then of course
Nicholas Rodriguez
>tryhard
Woolf was always like that though. Check out the Dreadnaught hoax.
The amount of ignorance in this thread is unreal.
Christian Bailey
She had a handsome face
Caleb Howard
>more effective >implying literature is some kind of tool to used convey ideas or relay a chain of events rather than an art
Are musicians who use less notes better because they are more effective with the ones they do use? Are painters who use only two colors better because they are more effective? Is "For sale: baby shoes, never worn." The greatest work of literature ever because it tells an entire story with only six words?
Jason Mitchell
>"James and Nora are so cool, like they're in some super cool underground indie band" >"Massive jelly" >Vita-Sackville-West-010.jpg >"Here's Woolf being tryhard fedora af"
Christ almighty.
Noah Rodriguez
>tfw bunga bunga is unelaborate language that neither confuses nor alienates
William Bell
>confusing simple or easy to understand with minimalism You should know better.
Mason Kelly
That is actually Woolf, I assume it was West that took the picture or something.
Easton Campbell
thats why she was a truly great writer
manly women > feminine women
Aaron Bennett
For comparison. Similar fedora levels, but it's quite clear that Virginia is ironically the butch with man face.
>effective Journalism-derived buzzword. Your professor's just a highly qualified hack.
That's his schizo daughter Lucia.
Xavier Nguyen
She wasn't fucking herself, user.
Logan White
That's what I thought too, but the filename says Joyce and Nora, and reverse image shows James Joyce and Nora Barnacle.
Connor Wright
Nah, someone just mislabeled it. There's a pic with his whole family on Wiki and that's definitely not Nora.
Lincoln Torres
You guys are pretty much in the dark without some tits to go on, right?
Adam Rodriguez
Look at those tits!
Easton Ramirez
>None of you faggots have the credentials to dispute her claim. Veeky Forums has best selling literary authors, is your professor one?
John Green
>her claim >her I don't think this post warrants a response. The inferior female brain obviously cannot comprehend james joyce.
Lincoln Cooper
I'm a girl AND I read Ulysses
Blake Carter
"""read""" Ulysses
William Nelson
I can't, for the life of me, figure out how a hobbies board like /mu/ manages to be as terrible as /pol/.
Ryder James
Well, not to me.
Jace Brown
>None of you faggots have the credentials to dispute her claim.
but i like both in equal measure
your agenda-driven dyke teacher = BTFO
Austin Gray
putting aside the fallacious appeal to authority, your failure to understand that two PhD English teachers can have dissenting but valid opinions makes me question what university you're going to and how you managed to pass Composition I and II
Noah Evans
Since when is alienation a bad thing?
Why are so many people so damn pseudohumean in their view of art? Perhaps -- no, no, don't dismiss me quite yet -- that sometimes the reader should be challenged by the author rather than coddled into staying in their comfort zone? Sometimes it is good to be a bit too ambitious in one's writing rather than write something that will be forgotten in a decade.
I doubt this woman has read either, because Woolf is just as guilty of using tortuous language.
Did Joyce actually need that eyepatch? I always wonder this.
Furthermore, Joyce was a loving husband with a healthy sexuality; Woolf was a dirty queer that married another queer, and both of them dirtied their marriage further through queer infidelities. 20=times
Isaac Morris
just like people question your orientation u fag boi with ur fancy words
Carter Hughes
lowkey u a savage fo dat
Connor Morris
emotions have been challenging the audience and taking them out of their comfort zone since the Greeks you people continuously tell people to start with
Chase Hernandez
How is this relevant?
Jordan Peterson
>her Dismissed.
Mason Butler
It's hot when 2 girls have sex so your last point is invalid. (unless they are butches)
Society should only accept female x female relationships (unless they are butches) and fags can go die.
Henry Hughes
>woolf and vita aren't butch Her husband was also homo.
Joseph Baker
im glad she left her faggot husband then
Even though Woolf was mannish, I should specify that by butch I mean those fat short haired dykes who dress like men. I guess those didnt exist back then.
Parker Powell
Joyce is the greatest literary artist of all time.
Kayden Nguyen
jokes on you and your prof, I have not and will never read either of them
Angel Smith
>her
Subtle bait. You won't make us hate Woolf, frog faggot
Dominic White
As a non native english speaker,Joyce confuses me. I have no idea what is happening,but the prose is pretty.I see the aesthethic value and the talent.
Robert Jones
>the big words and fancy talk in joyce hurts my brain typical woman tbqh
Hudson Jones
Thats Lucia not Nora, the chick who dated Beckett
James Gonzalez
>Lady Gaga is a better finger painter than Leonardo Dicaprio because art isn't wank and is very serious..