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>>No-one is saying that. We should clean up our mess, which is the majority of the mess. Once you make a start on that, THEN you can lecture other countries about doing their part. Until then, you're a hypocrite.
do you think china/india cares about protecting the environment at all. do you think africa does?

what will happen when they further industrialize and you have 3 billion+ people who continue to rape everything they touch. all the crying in the world won't do anything, and no amount of enacting further regulation and constraints on the first world will solve it.

what is the solution, in your eyes? how must white people save the world once again? how much more efficient do their cars need to be, how much more efficient do their factory scrubbers need to be? also lets keep ignoring japan's reactor constantly leaking into the ocean, tell me how many electric cars will save the world.

>human migration from third world shitholes coupled with lack of industry+tech to adapt
Then what happens? You have humanitarian and refugee crises several orders of magnitude worse than what is currently happening in Europe. So much for 'muh white nations eh? Don't you want to keep these people off your country?

>using pie charts
>using a graph without axes

yeah, i'm sure they are real scientists

Only hipsters are going to this, fuck's sake Trump is probably the most pro-science candidate of all because he's throwing DARPA an unsolicited $54 billion in new yearly funding. What liberals don't get is that science is just a tool, it's not inherently liberating. Which means hardcore Republicans are some of the biggest science supporters, even if they're otherwise fucking stupid.

And protesting climate change itself is stupid too, considering that it won't stop it. Also liberals don't seem to realize that the free trade agreements made since the late 80s directly cause climate change by outsourcing industry to countries without any pollution regulations. Of course, they won't admit this because they cannot fathom living in a society where they can't just buy new shit every other year.

>if we ask nicely black people will stop dumping industrial waste into the rivers that china owns, and then retire to their domicile for US funded relief oatmeal, not before impregnating all 7 of their female children
>"whitey is the reason i need a ford fiesta and a free apartment"

>implying the "refugee crisis" isnt artificial
do you even read wikileaks releases or do you read the headline of CNN, feel smug, and then complain about doody-head drumpf wanting to build a wall and how much he hates science

>come into thread expecting some actual discussion on the role of scientists in public debate & shaping policy
>it's another /pol/ sperger spouting wrong facts about climate and getting BTFO episode

The refugee crisis is real, if you actually did read wikileaks you'd know that the crisis exists because the US:

- did not anticipate the evacuation of so many people through Turkey (this was a deliberate action by Edrogan)
- did not anticipate Europe to not respond to the boats, at all
- did not anticipate Europe moving to "rescue" migrant boats off the Libyan Coast, a job the defunct Libyan Coast Guard used to do
- did not anticipate ISIS growing so out of control and fucking up the FSA

It's why Hilary's emails express a constant and low level suspicion of Muslim refugees, because her chances of getting elected would sink if any of them caused a terrorist attack.

scientists don't debate or shape public policy
when has this ever happened outside of the guise of pushing a political agenda
>if you don't subscribe to popular science climate change, you are from /pol/ and have autism
hmm

>if you don't subscribe to popular science climate change, you are from /pol/ and have autism

If you don't accept the overwhelming scientific evidence that climate change is happening, is manmade, then you're just burying your head in the sand. It doesn't necessarily mean you're a /pol/kin.

However, spewing /pol/ buzzwords like white people's guilt, etc into the conversation where it doesn't belong makes you a /pol/kin. No amount of posting KEK and trying to get arbitrary repeating digits on a post number in El Savadorian bull fighting imageboard can save you from reality and basic fundamental physics