Veganism Is An Eating Disorder

Isn't that "Mark Rippletoe" or whatever? He's a strength, fitness and nutrition guru with a large following.

No, I don't know why.

Vegans never do anything wrong other than express opinions you disagree with, ive never heard of a vegan getting someone unjustifiably fired or anything extreme like that

Maybe this has to do with my character, but I really cannot stand how obnoxious the sanctimonious grandstanding of either of these groups is. This bothers me more than anything. The same goes for militant atheists or religious fundamentalists. Using one's diet to feel superior to others is as base as one can get.

What if they're not doing it to feel superior but because of genuine moral conviction? There obviously are some vapid women who do it because they think it's healthy or makes you look good, but surely that isn't all vegans?

Yeah dude, the vegan pieces of shit that feed their children and pets a vegan diet and make them sick because of their backwards beliefs that are literally based on a fad and affirmation by other mentally-ill snowflakes are harmless.

Get a clue.

I'm not only referring to vapid women who are into yoga and juice 'detox', I'm more than anything pointing at the near religious zeal of many vegans. I don't appreciate the proselytism of the vegan community. While I'm sure there are some vegans who are pleasant to be around, most I've met are simply bad mannered, forcefully engaging people into discussions where the absolute triviality of their diet is treated like a subject of great importance. What's worse is that all this is more often than not done in the hopes of evangelizing more people into their sect. People can put whatever they like in their body, it makes no difference to me, but don't come bothering me with it.

any asserted opinion. ANY. it's not the opinion part, it's the asserting part. People who think their opinion is so fucking enlightening that they have to tell you about it come every chance.

Fucking this.
Vegans need to off themselves.
And I can accept I'm a horrible person.

> genuine moral conviction
how dare you try and tell me how to live my life, under the guise of knowing better what has better moral implications. That's probably how i would react. it's extremely insulting and disrespectful to assert yourself like that when uninvited. ANY opinion

I would agree with that.

jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(16)31192-3/fulltext

Inb4 anecdotes, as if you can't find those for kids fed shitty omnivorous diets as well

>how dare you tell me not to murder and steal
! This is my life!

>implying being vegan has something to do with the law
>implying being immoral means being a criminal
Nice strawman, retard

>it's okay to murder and steal if it isn't against the law

>it's okay to murder and steal if it isn't against the law
what is capital punishment/crimes of passion (catch your daughter being molested, kill molester)
what is eminent domain, what is the IRS, ect ect

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That wasn't what I was saying retard, if the law didn't exist, if there was nothing prohibiting murdering and stealing no matter what, it would be okay to murder and steal without any good reason?

Not an argument

the law existing or not is not necessarily an actual law, it is more of a collective human opinion. Change the collective human opinion that murder/stealing is wrong and yes, it would be ok to murder and steal without any good reason. But i think you'll find that's impossible until you breed completely non empathetic people.

im pretty sure you're the only one who didnt understand the point i was making. here, ill correct it for you since you're freaking out.

how dare you try and tell me how to live my life by limiting this legal action, under the guise of knowing better what has better moral implications. That's probably how i would react. it's extremely insulting and disrespectful to assert yourself like that when uninvited. ANY opinion
better boo?

1) The law does exist
2) Nobody who has at least two neurons linked together and isn't 5 is not going to go around teaching people that "murder and steal is bad mmmkay"

All in all, it isn't a very good argument, arguing that murder or rape is morally bad is obvious and it's still being an holier-than-thee piece of shit

>people shouldn't push for what they believe is morally right
What fucking retards, so people should have just sat back and said nothing about slavery?

nothing was said about slavery until collective human opinion decided it was inhumane. That's a perfect example of how laws can be flexible dependent on times.

But no, at the time, i would have absolutely told you the same shit if you came up to me and started a rant about freeing the slaves.

You do realize collective opinion never would have changed had people not said anything right? It didn't just shift magically

You do understand the difference between annoying someone with your opinions in the streets and being a pain is the ass when dealing with the institutions, right ?
Or do you believe john McShiteating has the power to change the law by himself ?

>A Canadian consultant, a Jew and a guy from Michigan will stand against the myriad of babies getting sick and dying due to being fed a vegan diet lacking in everything a developing human organism needs

Top notch. Don't inb4 me because some fucking retards word on a hypothetical perfectly balanced diet that could theoretically fuel a body doesn't stand against what is actually happening in real life.

>there's just one guy advocating for veganism
>implying almost all change didn't involve publicly advocating for certain beliefs

>I don't understand the difference between being a dick and being a dick representing an organization waaah waaah
Well i mean fuck 'em both but at least the organization is kinda legitimate, if you're just being self-righteous by yourself it's normal to hate you

How are vegans unique to this?

Never said they were.
What, you think we only hate vegans here ? Of course not! There's hate for everybody!

Veganism is an eating disorder.

There is no hunter gatherer culture that does not hunt to a degree, for some their calories are nearly 100% from animal sources. Food from animals is important for the economy in many environments, notably Mongolia and Polynesia.

Humans can only obtain vitamin B12 through animal products. Infants which are not breastfed and not given any substitutes are prone to vitamin b12 deficiency. Low b12 is implicated in neurological problems and anemia in children and adults. Proteins creatine, taurine and carnosine are only produced in small quantities by the body and do not exist in a vegan diet which is important for a bodybuilder like those in the video. Omega 3 fatty acid DHA also which has proven beneficial effects on intelligence. Plant foods are also low in iron.

If you are just interested in maintaining health, I suggest at least 1 portion of fish a week like sardines for the DHA, b12 and a boost in rare protein and iron without the cost of buying dodgy supplements from fraudulent companies, the ones pushing the veganism meme. If you are a bodybuilder or an athlete you are putting yourself at a disadvantage by not eating meat and/or dairy.

Explain this veganfags:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/
>The present study shows the beneficial effects of a long-term ketogenic diet. It significantly reduced the body weight and body mass index of the patients. Furthermore, it decreased the level of triglycerides, LDL cholesterol and blood glucose, and increased the level of HDL cholesterol. Administering a ketogenic diet for a relatively longer period of time did not produce any significant side effects in the patients. Therefore, the present study confirms that it is safe to use a ketogenic diet for a longer period of time than previously demonstrated.

Great! I can leave this thread the

the Vegan lifestyle is hypocritical and ultimately unattainable without a trust fund. animals and animal products are fundamental inputs into the vast majority of the things modern humans use to maintain our quality of life. unless you grow your own food and make your own clothes on your own plot of land, somewhere in that supply chain an animal is being butchered (whether intentionally or not) to provide you with the things you consume.

the foundation of the vegan soapbox is made of tissue paper.

What do vegans think about eating insects?

Many vegans can't grapple with the fact that we're animals, not gods, and therefore can't change everything overnight even though veganism is inevitable to a degree (as technology progresses etc).

They're also in large part too sure in their beliefs. That's never a good sign. Reminds me of Lysenkoism.

they don't eat meat, even though I tell them to. It makes me sad

>emotional insults and baseless claims
Why are you even on a science board?

Not vegan, but they're in a caloric deficit and not weight stable. You can put fatasses on cocaine and see all their biomarkers improve as long as it causes them to eat less but it would be wrong to use such data to conclude cocaine is safe. A ketogenic diet certainly has a satiety and a moderate thermogenic advantage over the standard american diet, but it fails to have one over a diet matched in protein and fiber content - ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16685046

>fat guy talks about eating disorder, doesnt cover lifestyle changes from vegan to omnivore, nutrient levels in blood, fat, cholesterol, blood pressure, changes in performance, sleep, stress levels, provides absolutely no scientical evidence to any of his claims

>>Veeky Forums

Veganism is a morally superior to being a meatlet.

I think the problem with the vegan community is that some are easily influenced by the fad diets: raw vegan, fruitatarian, raw til 4, HCLF or 80/10/10, HFLC (vegan keto), gluten free, etc. rather than just a well-balanced diet with mindful supplementation that happens to be vegan.

Depends on the vegan.
An environmentalist/utilitarian vegan would say "this is sustainable and a good idea."
An ethical vegan may say "they are still living beings, we can't exploit them."
A dietary-only vegan could go either way.
Or any person of any lifestyle (omni or veg) could say "eww bugs are grosssss."

>An ethical vegan may say "they are still living beings, we can't exploit them."
But so are plants tho

Most unhealthy kids eat omnivore diets

90 millions americans have prediabetes and it's certainly not because of veganism

The American Journal for Clinical Nutrition doesn't show up on the Master Journal List.

Your study is invalid.

>There is no hunter gatherer culture that does not hunt to a degree
How is this relavant in today's society? Literally no one hunts anymore.
>Humans can only obtain vitamin B12 through animal products. Completely wrong. There are plant based sources of B12, although in smaller amounts they still exist.

An ethical vegan may say "FUCK YOU AND YOUR RELENTLESS LOGIC!"

I literally hunt. But then I am not gigantic pussy, so maybe that accounts for it.

He's a strength coach with huge success in training beginner and intermediate powerlifters. He is the guy you go to when you want to get strong and start competing.

science.thomsonreuters.com/cgi-bin/jrnlst/jlresults.cgi?PC=MASTER&ISSN=0002-9165

science.thomsonreuters.com/cgi-bin/jrnlst/jlresults.cgi?PC=MASTER&ISSN=1205-6626

how's life with the Down syndrome? how do you cope?

>listen to a broscientist with an undergrad degree in geology
Whatever you say Veeky Forums

>literally no one hunts

tell that to the midwest

>fatass that sounds like a hick
>he has un eatin disarder!!!!!!

It's funny that meat eaters eat a piece of meat and think they got all the nutrients they need when they're just as likely to have deficiencies. Then they die of heart disease. Eating like shit is more dangerous than inhaling smoke your whole life. Not that that's an argument for veganism per se, it's just hilarious that fatties think they're actually doing their body any good just because they ate some meat

Their search function always sucked, no need to throw a hissy fit.

Plants have no form of nervous system

I'm not saying I'm against eating bugs, but they do at least respond to external stimuli in real time via a web of electrochemical connections, rudimentary as it is

Yeah, and I'm sure you sustain yourself nutritionally that way, right?

>literally no one hunts
>literally no one sustains themselves from hunting
>moving goalposts

Wanna know how I can tell you never read his books nor have ever done strength training before?

I'm not even the original user
But the implication of saying 'no one hunts' is that it's not a viable primary source of food in this day and age
Which, as you have proven, it isn't

>read my broscience books
>follow my broscience routines
It just gets better and better

>there was an implication
>don't listen to what I actually said
>because I implied it
>obviously

But bugs get killed to protect the plants that vegans eat :(

You're a pseudointellectual pop sci kid that gained a false sense of superiority after getting all of your education on skeletal muscle physiology and kinesiology from some wannabe fitness celebrity and his zealous cult? Good to know

>dem hips
Fugg please become a trap

We evolved from hunter gatherers.

>plant based sources of B12
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4042564/

Do you realize this is a science board? I don't understand why flat earthers and vegans come here expecting us to believe their wishy washy biased thinking and post only blogs or sites like vegananalsuppositoryAIDScurebuybuybuy.ng

damn rekt.

Again, wanna know how I know you've never lifted before?

Nobody cares about whether or not you lift you absolute faggot.

t. a weakling

shoo-shoo gains goblin

i've never lifted before either, wanna make fun of me?
go back to Veeky Forums jesus

>muh muscles
The triviality of your life must be a source of great humor to your peers.

Lol, the only viable B12 source they identified was dried purple seaweed

And then this
>Vegetarians are at a higher risk of Vitamin B12 deficiency than non-vegetarians [8]. The frequencies of the deficiency among vegetarians were estimated as 62%, 25%–86%, 21%–41%, and 11%–90% in pregnant women, children, adolescents, and elderly subjects, respectively, by review of the 18 reports evaluating Vitamin B12 status of vegetarians [9]

>rags on strength coach for "broscience"
>i've never lifted before
>muh muscles

Don't worry, I'll pray for you as I fuck your sister with my juicy quads and thick glutes

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See

>bitch tits and lactose belly gains
nice going rippetits

>my juicy quads and thick glutes
i highly doubt you're interested in my sister, a straight man would never say that kek

Not him but is your sister a qt?

You tell me.

apparently, my family has pretty good genes overall, tall, good health, intelligent, ect. She's never had a problem with male attention and me with female attention, she's an amazing wingman though. Please do date her, her current boyfriend is slowly going schizophrenic :(

k this girl is most definitely more attractive than my sister, but im obviously biased lel

>his posterior chain and legs are weak
>not wanting to up his fuck-game

ISHYGDDT

You mean you don't fantasize about your sister?

>excluding these two genera, other edible algae contain zero or only traces of Vitamin B12
people who fell for the vegan meme should eat these 2 specific species of algae then

Enteromorpha and Porphyra

not really, she's more of a bro to me, i mean yea she's attractive as a person but god no, there's some genetic repulsion towards it. I really think the people who fantasize about that just dont interact with other women in their life, so they fixate on either their mother or sister, as that's the only woman they know.

The front page of porn sites has taught me that more men than you think fantasize about fucking their mother/sister.

it's funny you say that, in the past 2-3 years those stepbrother/stepsister/aunt/stepmom videos have just exploded, especially in the "most watched". I always found it really weird

Yeah it's pretty fucked.

>2 rashers of bacon per day = 18% increased risk of ass cancer

What the fuck is a "rasher" of bacon and who the hell eats 2 of them PER DAY?