Falcon Heavy

King_Martha
King_Martha

build world's largest rocket
don't use it for anything
What's the logic behind this?
Is it the new Saturn V? (used for one meme and then cancelled)
Is it the perfect example of crass American excess?

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spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
youtube.com/watch?v=k_OD2V6fMLQ
nasaspaceflight.com/2018/03/cislunar-station-new-name-presidents-budget/
youtube.com/watch?v=BJZ9sqvH9dY

w8t4u
w8t4u

It's an evolutionary dead end that SpaceX didn't realize would be a dead end when they were building it

It'll have a handful of flights but in a couple years it will be outclassed in almost every way by BFR

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

don't use it for anything
spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
STP-2
Arabsat 6A

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

satellites that could have been launched by half a dozen other existing launchers

King_Martha
King_Martha

But are going to be launched by Falcon Heavy.
Remember that this is a commercial launch vehicle. It isn't like the Saturn V which was built for Moon landings.
SpaceX made it so they can serve a greater capability, not because they had contracts that required it. Now that they have it available they will likely get some more contracts that require it over their Falcon 9.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

What's the logic behind this?

big payloads which don't exist and 'reusing' on missions that would otherwise be flown on expendable f9

Is it the new Saturn V? (used for one meme and then cancelled)

no, saturn v could actually lift a payload that wasn't a lead brick and could send its payload beyond LEO

Is it the perfect example of crass American excess?

the only thing excessive about spacex is the 20 billion dollars NASA has spent on development grants for dragon and f9, while still getting bilked on launch costs to the tune of $300-400mil while spacex publicly claims much lower numbers.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Love how SpaceX threads always bring out the NASA shills.

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Evilember
Evilember

meme

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

lol nigger you be brainwashed by Bruno

The BFR thread is a shitshow as well.

I remember three+ years ago when people were saying that FH was a paper rocket.. hmmm...

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

You can recycle boosters from 9s into Heavy and heavy into 9.

farquit
farquit

It has another launch coming this summer.

Emberburn
Emberburn

i cant tell if you truly are from reddit or just parodying at this point.
Either way you should kill yourself before you die of AIDS.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I remember three+ years ago when people were saying that FH was a paper rocket
Three+ years ago FH WAS a paper rocket.

likme
likme

Exactly, then it launched

Same thing with BFR. Current state of affairs does not reflect the future

eGremlin
eGremlin

God, BFR retards and SpaceX fags in general will never cease to amaze me with their sheer idiocy.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

SpaceX will never launch a rocket
Falcon 1 will never fly
Falcon 9 will never fly
Falcon 9 will never land
Falcon Heavy will never fly
You are here
Falcon Heavy core will never land
BFR will never fly
SpaceX will never go to Mars

whereismyname
whereismyname

Stuff literally no one said.
Good strawman there Musk-bot. Now please explain to me how SpaceX, the company that ran into the same problems making a tri-core rocket that Boeing ran into and were delayed even longer, will make the largest and most complicated vehicle ever designed within a couple years. I'm waiting.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Stuff literally no one said

Except you faggots fucking say that shit all the time. I don't think anyone here expects this thing to be flying in a couple of years.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Way to completely ignore the content of my post in order to insult me again. You fall for the bait so easily it's hilarious. Still haven't proved me wrong. :^)

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Your only content was to say that they won't make this in a couple of years, which I agree with?

Fucking neck yourself retard.

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w8t4u
w8t4u

don't use it for anything
next time, read the entire press release, Cletus

FastChef
FastChef

SpaceX
want to to go Mars
start building and flying shit

NASA
"want to go to mars"
buy $200 shovels
grow potatoes with berkely students

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

It's going to follow the space shuttle and the saturn 5.
Russia knows the practical limits on rocketry but it seems americans can't learn no matter how many times they try.

idontknow
idontknow

Falling back on R7 is not a "practical limit" unless you are a failed state propping up a facade of regional power

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Do not respond to the paid shill
their paycheck is based off of (You)s
normally the idea of shilling on Veeky Forums is retarded, but this motherfucker has been doing this for several fucking years now without stopping
there's no other explanation for it

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TreeEater
TreeEater

NASA
12 missions lined up using largest rocket in history in order to progressively get closer and closer to Mars using the Moon as a jumping off point.

SpaceX
lol this big rocket is going to take us to mars xD it has fucking in the name xD

Snarelure
Snarelure

Can't refute poster
Call him a shill
Ahh, going the /pol/ack path of argumentation. Glad to know you're on the same plane of intelligence as kekistanis.

RavySnake
RavySnake

w 3.9 billion in govt. gives

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

at least that moon landing denier Italian user isn't around any more, that dude really mucked up threads

BFR critics at least lead to somewhat interesting debates... sort of

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

want your shekels

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

BFR is a joke and spacex is running a pyramid scheme.

I hope you haven't bought any stocks because you've been conned harder than bitcoiners.

At least it won't continue for much longer and endanger national interests as well as international cooperation.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I hope you haven't bought any stocks
What it's like to be retarded?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Haha I was just going to say, it's not open to the public for trading, my guy.

It's obvious that you're uneducated on anything SpaceX related. Please apply yourself

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

internal stocks are at 150 or so right now, up from like twenty cents

Emberfire
Emberfire

It's a test to figure out how to get rockets with dozens of engines working. The BFR will basically be a Falcon Heavy with slightly more powerful engines.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

At the end of the day reusability is much more important, than payload. If they actually achieve full reusability with the BFR with little no refurbishment costs, even if the payload is smaller than that of the Falcon Heavy, it will be an utter and complete game changer. As soon as GTO orbits cost less than 100$/kg space age is here (this price tag would mean you could book a flight to the moon and back for ~50k)

JunkTop
JunkTop

no one said
Newfag

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

we're going to see a big shift in how probes and sats are built; they're gonna be all assembled in pieces in orbit in the future

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

As fucking if. Probes are extraordinarily expensive, Mars Science Laboratory, which included Curiosity, cost 4 billion dollars to develop and was launched on an Atlas V. Muskbots really don't understand that the launch rocket itself is the cheapest part of space exploration/study.

Illusionz
Illusionz

the 4 billion is because you have limited mass to work with and a extreme amount of risk adverse design. with 7 mil BFR flights, you can build multiple, heavy landers without spending millions on making sure the zip ties are to spec or whatever

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

The probe needs to operate fully autonomously in the hostile environment of Mars. It's not like we have economies of scale for these kind of robots. They will always be in the billions.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

If typical nasa contracting results in billions spent on rockets, why is it surprising to see it results in billions spent for probes and rovers?
Surely, you do not think rockets are an exception and everything else is actually cost effective?

Lunatick
Lunatick

MSL was not mass limited. It was launched on a 541 Atlas and had the option of the Delta IV Heavy if needed. The Euclid telescope cost a billion dollars and was launched on a Soyuz.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Probes are extraordinarily expensive

There is nothing inherently expensive about a probe at all. Expensive probes are a scam designed to milk taxpayer money, just like expensive launches were. When cost of launches comes down, so will the cost of most spacecraft.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Typical NASA contracting
ahh the idiocy of fanboys. Science exploration has always costed billions and there's no savior in your precious private corporations because there's no money to be made in scientific exploration.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

It's not like we have economies of scale for these kind of robots.

If launch costs come down, we will have.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

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MPmaster
MPmaster

NASA rockets are not cost ineffective.

Muskrats and their fanboy memes on suicide watch.

girlDog
girlDog

Probes aren't built enmasse. Curiosity will only have one twin to be launched in 2020.

viagrandad
viagrandad

9609000
He's back.
Try not give him yous that's the whole point of his retarded posts.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

NASA rockets are not cost ineffective.

This is what nasafags actually believe

cum2soon
cum2soon

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idontknow
idontknow

3.9 billion in gibs going to soaceX
Versus 100 billion in gibs going to ULA
hmmmm

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

50 billion dollars for the SLS, a rocket made out of premade, already developed parts, that hasn't been built or tested yet is cost effective
Why hasn't NASA tested an SLS yet? It's made out of parts developed between 1961 to 1985, the only new part is the fucking Orion capsule, the rockets been in development for 20 years
Also
This is just the price of block 1, the rocket made out of entirely reused parts
Block 2 will have entirely new engines, which haven't even been designed yet, which may push the program over 60 billions dollars
Mars and lunar equipment will possible push it over 100 billion
SLS is a joke

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Emberburn
Emberburn

50 billion dollars for the SLS

No, that's not what happens. It's basically the same as those film studios claiming a certain movie made losses, although it made profits in the hundreds of millions. What is being declared as "SLS budget" is actually a budget for keeping rocket production capacities alive, which the government think it needs in case a big war breaks out, and some other research NASA is funding through the SLS. So basically, the SLS budget is 90% going into keeping companies afloat that need to build cruise missiles in case we need them, and 5% NASA doing whatever with it, and 5% actually goes into SLS.

Emberfire
Emberfire

billion dollars
Source: My ass
the only new part is the fucking Orion capsule, the rockets been in development for 20 years
Turns out making a super heavy rocket is really hard. Would've thunk? Other than the RS-25s, shuttle tank, and SRBs, what's reused about the SLS?
Block 2 will have entirely new engines
New boosters, nice try.
Mars and lunar equipment will possible push it over 100 billion
Space exploration is really really expensive
WOW WOULD'VE THUNK

eGremlin
eGremlin

Sounds like an interesting chap, got any stories?

MPmaster
MPmaster

He would just spam shitty images of his proof and (you) everyone, wasn’t that exciting

massdebater
massdebater

Tell me with a straight face this is real: youtube.com/watch?v=k_OD2V6fMLQ

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Are you just trolling/shilling or do you genuinely think NASA, ULA, etc... are representitive of what spaceflight costs, when it has been demonstrably proven otherwise?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

No trolling just btfoing delusional fanboys who hate based science.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Everyone knows nobody landed on the Moon. The footage is obviously fake and was debunked many times. What's your point?

Spamalot
Spamalot

1/10 I replied.

5mileys
5mileys

Everyone knows nobody landed on the Moon.

Guarantee there's mooncucks in here.

What's your point?

If the moon landings were faked, what makes you think SpaceX isn't fake either?

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askme
askme

I never said SpaceX isn't fake. It's simply an enterprise to siphon money.

likme
likme

Oh look it's this guy again.

Methshot
Methshot

Why are people so hostile to the idea that the moon landings are REAL? Is it simple anti-American bias? I mean the Soviets congratulated NASA after Apollo 11.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Block 2 will have entirely new engines
New boosters, nice try.
No, they're going to run out of old shuttle engines, so they're redesigning RS-25 for modern production and to be expendable. It'll effectively be a new engine, and it can't be counted on to be as reliable as the old ones.

Other than the RS-25s, shuttle tank, and SRBs, what's reused about the SLS?
That's the whole Block 0 SLS, everything but the upper stage and relatively trivial fittings. The interim upper stage will be a modified DCSS (the upper stage from Delta IV). The exporation upper stage will be a shorter section of shuttle tank with a bunch of RL-10s (another old engine).

There's basically nothing truly new about SLS. It's a cobble-job of old parts, with just enough changes and use outside of original parameters to make them untrustworthy.

RavySnake
RavySnake

12 months is less than a year for SpaceX, but maybe 30 years for SLS. It won't get anywhere near Mars and the Moon is not a jumping off point, it doesn't work like that. There aren't even any Moon or Mars related payloads in development for SLS. It pobably won't launch more than twice.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Its somehow connected to the jews, thats all they keep telling me.

DeathDog
DeathDog

With cheap enough launch costs you can just throw up hundreds of them and hope half of them don't break.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

If only the Muskcucks could see that.

Oh look it's a brainlet again.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Well that's absurd, and this is coming from an anti-semite. All the Astronauts were Gentiles and a huge portion of the lead scientists and engineers, had prior experience with the Third Reich's rocket program.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

the Soviets congratulated NASA after Apollo 11

Oh it must have been real then...

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Why are you and others so hostile towards Space X?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Because they're stealing tax money in exchange for fake space rockets.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

"Fake"? Really? Private enterprises like Space X are a necessity thanks to the governments of the world consistently giving the various government space agencies the shaft since the late 1960's. Even NASA's budget went down 42% from 1966 to 1972.

The moment Yuri Gagarin left Earth's atmosphere is the moment when space exploration/colonization should have become the number one priority for all civilized peoples.

Space X has that mentality and its fantastic.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Just ignore him

idontknow
idontknow

This is correct

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Thanks for proving our missiles are better now
Btw all your research is going to be used to blow up sand nigger farmers in Yemen
*Shuts down NASA*

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Grow up brainlet, no rocket has been in "space".

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

space exploration/colonization should have become the number one priority for all civilized peoples

And you say that while said countries are invaded by niggers and muslims, who demand all the money go to their welfare. In order for that to happen, uncivilized peoples need to be dealt with.

SniperGod
SniperGod

fake space rockets
what did he mean by this?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

demonstrably proven otherwise?
Yea, all those cheap scientific probes and super heavy rockets flying around sure proved NASA wrong. Oh wait.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

literally supporting nazis spending american dollars to COLONIZE and CONQUER space and threaten our Soviet allies

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

If space is a vacuum, then Newton's laws dictate that rockets cannot create thrust.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

t. New York Times, 1921

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Do you even universal aether and the complicated interaction with the rockets bipolar scramjet generated by the hot gas' expansion rate?

whereismyname
whereismyname

I absolutely agree with you my good man. You can thank social liberalism and American cultural influence for this demographic nightmare.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

SpaceX fags are "muh white genocide demographic change!" retards.
Can't make this shit up people.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Wasn't it only the one Nazi? Or did they let him bring his friends?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

momentum is the product of mass and velocity. A change in momentum over a change in time results in a force. Since your mass as a rocket changes when you expell fuel (or anything else) you induce a force. Forces move things.

Spamalot
Spamalot

t. nigger

happy_sad
happy_sad

NASAfags are niggers

It makes perfect sense if you consider what Obama did to the organisation...

5mileys
5mileys

Braun led entire team to the allies so he definitely wasn't alone in assisting the american rocket program. The large german presence was a giant glowing target for all opponents at the time and the soviet spies making use of the useful idiots.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

They were right.

If Musk said that most people would blindly believe it.

Incorrect, just because mass changes doesn't mean you'll produce thrust, especially in a vacuum.

Show me thrust being created in a vacuum, not a small vacuum chamber because gases can push off the sides of a small chamber

Methnerd
Methnerd

BFR Flies
NASA gets btfo to solely research agency.
SpaceX & the private industry colonize the stars.
When you look up "Public Spending Excess" NASA is the prime example.

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Firespawn
Firespawn

mfw the absolute state of hurr we landed on the Moon and SpaceX subhuman supporters

The Humanity will thank you for supporting the obfuscation of history.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

Oh god its you again

TechHater
TechHater

People like this exist

eGremlin
eGremlin

their vote counts as much as yours
they can use the internet
scary

JunkTop
JunkTop

They better.

Oh look it's the no-argument twins.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Seriously, is there any point talking to this scum? Even the third-party (((evidence))) for Moon landings consist of low quality photos that are taken way too far to discern any details. They look like photos of a meteorite or a rock, that is supposed to be a (((lunar lander))). Not to mention they're the only parties capable of supplying such photos. No one else can independently supply them, so it's obvious money, once again, won the day.
Observe Veeky Forumscucks as they scramble to make up shit but are unable to prove it. Kek.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

You are welcome to buy a telescope and check it out yourself instead of samefagging on Veeky Forums. You could also buy a laser and receiver and point it at the mirror they set up on the moon for this exact purpose, but that would be too much like hard work.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

It's not visible from the Moon if you use a simple telescope. You literally need to use orbiters. Second thing, looking as the (((observatories))) had trouble getting the reflections off and were only able to "do" so after a few days, clearly points to reflection from another source, like a satellite passing by. Not to mention, Moon's surface is already surprisingly reflective, so those might as well be simply weak reflections from the surface, detected only thanks to very sensitive detectors.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

samefagging this hard

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takes2long
takes2long

And there are no useful payloads for BFR either, just like for SLS.

They've all gotten into a race to build big fucking rockets, but they're completely forgetting about the payload.

Bidwell
Bidwell

asshurt brainlet

Keep believing in the magic, retard. Let's pour all this money into private pockets that have nothing to do with space exploration.

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iluvmen
iluvmen

By the time you had put together a convincing fake consisting of fake Saturn V rockets, fake landers, fake transmission and about a few tens of thousands of personnel involved in your conspiracy, it would've been easier to simply go to the fucking Moon.

You really fucking believe they could orchestrate tens of thousands of people to reliably tell a lie for half a century when they can't even lead a simple political party without constant leaks?

hairygrape
hairygrape

NASA are planning for payloads to utilize SLS. SpaceX on the otherhand...

nasaspaceflight.com/2018/03/cislunar-station-new-name-presidents-budget/

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

When you can launch 150t to orbit for under 10m, a shitload of organisations who want to send stuff to space but can't afford stupid price tags suddenly now can afford it. Assuming they gey BFR to work reliably.

Methshot
Methshot

It was fucking recorded on the Earth, all they did was launching a rocket. Fucking Germans were capable of that during WWII. Also, they know they're safe - nobody can truly prove them wrong. They got cash for keeping quiet, America won the space race, since Soviets were just as much retarded and couldn't confirm it independently for the very same reason Americans never landed on the Moon - it was way too difficult for them.
Not to mention, I'm sure they had the same qualms as you - and only a select few were aware of what's going on, the rest could've been kept in the dark. Not to mention, even if any of them suddenly came out - they'd be sacrificing their reputation, current life and have no actual proof of foul play. No point.

Methnerd
Methnerd

It's next to impossible for a spacecuck to produce an argument because they're so emotionally invested in this idea of space they've been conditioned with since birth. $tar War$ playing a major role in that.

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Emberfire
Emberfire

America won the space race

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Evilember
Evilember

Sorry, I meant the race for the Moon. But obviously, nobody did.

Flameblow
Flameblow

The price tag for space exploration and research does not lie with the rocket, it lies with the payload itself. On average, the rocket only costs 20% of the entire price for a simple Earth orbiting satellite. It only gets more and more exponentially expensive the further you get away from Earth. The Mars Science Laboratory orbiter + Curiosity rover cost a combined $4.2B. The $140M for the Atlas V was nothing and it wasn't even maxxed out.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Does that mean space won the space race?

RavySnake
RavySnake

The highest probability here is that fucking Laika won the space race.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

The fallacy with the space race is that a race has a defined finish point, but the space race would've always found a new goal to race for. Effectively both nations made a tremendous contribution to space exploration and advancement of science and technology.

Booteefool
Booteefool

The people who make impossibly expensive rockets also make impossibly expensive payloads? Shock. Any other groundbreaking discoveries, user? You might be onto something I'm serious here.

w8t4u
w8t4u

a lot of it is because satellites aren't yet mass-produced. SpaceX is planning to mass-produce communications satellites itself to make money from ubiquitous space internet, presumably others will mass produce satellites for other purposes.

askme
askme

i cant tell
then stfu fgt pls

hairygrape
hairygrape

America did win the Space Race, which was a contest for national prestige and to demonstrate superior wealth and technical prowess. They built the world's largest rocket and put a man on the moon, and the Soviets tried for a few more years and gave up, defeated, shamed, demoralized, and humbled.

Thus without having to go to war, the Americans proved much of the rhetoric about the superiority of communism to be hollow and foolish. The grand technological future was no longer to be expected, the sacrifices and murders were for nothing. Communism was simply a way for brutes to make excuses for killing and looting and grabbing power.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Soviets:
First satellite
First animal in orbit (not in /space/ I know, in /orbit/ which is considerably harder)
First man and woman in orbit
First spacewalk
Probs some other things

The Soviets did score absolutely irrevocable propaganda victories by doing these things, moon landing or not.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Scientific payloads are now impossibly expensive.
Show of all those cheaply made scientific payloads made by those precious private companies you seem to fellate so much.

Satellites cannot be mass produced because they are not general purpose machines. They have to be specifically designed and precisely calculated for the role they will fulfill otherwise they wouldn't work. SpaceX has only said that they will be able to mass produce internet satellites, they haven't shown an ability to do so. A better example would be OneWeb since they are ordering satellites for $400k -$1M a pop. Even so, those are internet satellites, not communication, weather, GPS, etc.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Fair point. Still, ~$1m, if that is a solid figure, is really peanuts compared to current launch costs. BFR would bring the cost of satellites + launch right down at prices like that.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Are you the autistic anti-spacex shill that infest every single space thread?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

$1M is a staggering figure for a satellite, usually they cost like 5 times the rocket itself. But their satellites are very small and they are planning on launching them on the cheapest rocket around, Soyuz, in bunches of 20. So the satellite cost roughly equals the launch cost.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

put a man on the moon
still believing simple Hollywood propaganda movie to this day

You deserve to be cucked. Consuming lies and thinking they make you the winner. Also, see

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Yes he is.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Insults instead of refutation.
Never change Muskrats, never change.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

The Soviets did score absolutely irrevocable propaganda victories by doing these things, moon landing or not.
No, they got an early lead, but were crushed when the Americans landed on the moon and they themselves tried, failed, and gave up. The propaganda value was always in "Look, we can do things that the other side can't!" For the Soviets, it was true briefly, then for the Americans it was true and final.

"First" is nice. But "only" is crushing, especially in contrast to a high-profile failure.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

muskrats
fanboys
quotes
shilling
Yes. It's definitely that one retarded faggot.

iluvmen
iluvmen

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Evilember
Evilember

He just can't help himself can he?

SniperGod
SniperGod

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You can tell he starts to get buthurt when you don't provide the (you)

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I never ever understand why this webm is posted with these types of sentiments. Can someone explain?

Spamalot
Spamalot

it's a troll, don't give him (you)'s

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Yeah, I know that, but I don't get the correlation with that particular video. I only notice because I'm always trying to catch large ice clusters coming off.

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

because he thinks the CGI people messed up or something, I don't honestly know

do these people not realize you can watch the 2nd stage staging and engine start up from your backyard?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Yeah, I've asked before, but he never answered.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Not to breath life back into this truly awful thread, but I think special needs user's preoccupation with that gif is that he thinks the piece of ice is a Tesla logo.
Haven't yet heard any explanation for why Musk would put removable Tesla logos in his CGI rocket videos.

farquit
farquit

Every year there are dozens of payloads to be put into Space. Today, SpaceX markets the Falcon 9 and Heavy to fly them. Tomorrow, BFR will the launch vehicle SpaceX will market to fly them, for a per launch price less than their previous product line and less that their competitors.

askme
askme

BFR will be so totally cost revolutionary that, in addition to the current market of payloads, the low price may open new payloads to launch. For example, tourists to space who would not otherwise be able to afford a ticket, but could conceivably afford a ticket on BFR.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Well, say you wanted to invest 10s if not 100s of millions of dollars into putting something into space. Wouldn't you want some sort of demonstration that this is going to work before forking over that much cash?

Besides I think you're forgetting SpaceX is Musk's personal company, not a government entity. Ol Elon can do whatever the fuck he wants with his money, whether that be fucking with small nation's economies like Soros, or putting man on Mars or just giving rich people the opportunity to have space-sex (get the name now?)

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

SpaceX is using their own launch product to deliver satellites to orbit for their internet constellation project, which entails some monetary cost to them. BFR will lower the bill to SpaceX for these launches.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

That's entirely true but only for the SLS hence why it should be cancelled and the funding and industrial capacity funneled into payloads.
BFR has multitude of uses though - low cost, low cost space station, low cost lunar habitat, etc.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

It looks like a Tesla logo to begin with and then morphs into what looks like a man flying away on a zip wire or something, it's very odd.

No one denies they launch a rocket, it's the point where they go into "space" where the CGI fakery comes in. It's so damn obvious, I don't get how you Muskcucks are so blind to it.

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

This, I only recently found out ULA is actually just Boeing and Lockheed Martin smooshed together, two companies whose fangs have been embedded in the udders of America for longer than my parents have been alive. They've both ben suckling the sweet nectar of American tax dollars so long they have lobbyists.

TreeEater
TreeEater

It just looks like ice to me. Though, it kind of looks like a dragon flipping end over end with one wing broken. I don't think it looks anything like a logo.

No one denies they launch a rocket, it's the point where they go into "space" where the CGI fakery comes in. It's so damn obvious, I don't get how you Muskcucks are so blind to it.

Evidently, my cousin gets to watch them in person from the ground when it lands near Cape Canaveral Air Force Station (LZ1-LZ2). though, he's never sent photos or anything. I rarely talk to him. It really seems like a big expense to do a lot of fakery when there's far cheaper ways to scam money from investors. Especially, when most of the money just gets reused into the same project to make it bigger and bigger.

Snarelure
Snarelure

The entire space program is a hoax

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

It just looks like ice to me. Though, it kind of looks like a dragon flipping end over end with one wing broken. I don't think it looks anything like a logo.

Whatever it is, it's not real. Ice wouldn't last long at all in the vacuum of space.

Your cousin doesn't see the rocket in space, no one does. And scamming money isn't the only reason to fake it.

FastChef
FastChef

Ffs stop replying to him

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

What about satellites and ISS? You can see those with the naked eye. Also, ice can last a pretty long time in space, especially when it is in the shadow of something. Sublimation is a slow process and there's no air to conduct heat to it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

satellites

If there's anything up there it's much more likely to be a weather balloon or some other flying device.

ISS

There's no one in the ISS, they've fucked it up too many times. Again, could be some kind of high altitude plane,definitely not something orbiting at 17,000mph. youtube.com/watch?v=BJZ9sqvH9dY

Soft_member
Soft_member

100 billion
lol more like 5+ trillion

farquit
farquit

Don't reason with them. If they had reason they would have checked the math themselves.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Including all of the useless wars, probably

Bidwell
Bidwell

I swear to God, these and the IQ threads are the most idiotic on Veeky Forums.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

how so? if people would stop replying to the obvious baiters the space threads here would be pretty good.

WebTool
WebTool

Why are you on Veeky Forums? Are you part of the Russian troll brigade? None of t he things you have been stating holds up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

FastChef
FastChef

don't reply man

JunkTop
JunkTop

Why are you on Veeky Forums?

Because I enjoy real science, not sci-fi.

Are you part of the Russian troll brigade?

Put your tinfoil hat on.

None of t he things you have been stating holds up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

Well I'm convinced.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

hello (sci) im le epic tr0l can i get (you)'s pls?
you seem generous so here i am ^_^!
thx

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

It looks like a Tesla logo to begin with and then morphs into what looks like a man flying away on a zip wire
I don't know how to say this without sounding like I'm memeing or whatever, but you should honestly get yourself checked for mental illness. Seeing patterns and meaning in random things like this is a pretty big red flag.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Yeah, I guess, except that they always, always reply and the thread is always the same stupid discussion of elon lovers vs haters.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Using the Moon as "a jumping off point" to go to Mars is stupid, not only is it more complicated, it's also more costly in terms of fuel to go to the Moon, stop there, then go to Mars. It takes less fuel to go straight to Mars from Earth due to the Oberth effect.

iluvmen
iluvmen

The BFR will basically be a Falcon Heavy with slightly more powerful engines.

More than that, it will use a better more efficient propellant mixture with no coking issues, will lose the three core design for a much simpler and more effective 2 stage approach, have much better on-orbit capability, and will be able to be refueled in orbit to allow for extremely heavy payloads to be placed into any Earth orbit.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Yes is was mass limited, not by the launch vehicle but by the landing system. The parachute+sky crane can only handle a payload mass of a ton or so, with the limit being set by the chute.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

fuuuuuck oooooooofffff

WebTool
WebTool

Everything SpaceX is currently launching with Falcon 9 can be launched with BFR except for cheaper and directly into target orbits rather than just transfer orbits.
BFR will be cheaper to launch than Falcon 9 because BFR will be fully reusable.
SpaceX wants BFR to be as big as it is because it means they only have to develop and operate one type of vehicle. They could technically do a much smaller Raptor powered rocket, roughly Falcon Heavy sized, make it fully reusable as well, and end up making more money than they currently do, however that smaller rocket would be useless for Mars exploration. Instead they're skipping that step and taking advantage of the fact that a much larger but still fully reusable rocket can still undercut all modern launch vehicles in price.

A cheap launch price is a cheap launch price, it stays the same whether you're launching 150 tons of satellite or nothing at all.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Ice wouldn't last long at all in the vacuum of space.

retard alert

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

These threads are getting worse and worse. It was a test flight, the standard payload for those is a lump of concrete, but elon and co had fun with it instead. And outside of antispacex echo chambers people loved it.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Very ironic of you to diagnose someone with mental illness when you believe the CGI shit you're being fed.

Brainlet doesn't understand the temps and pressures that the so called vacuum of space has.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Just report all the shitposting and /x/posting fucksticks
they'll be banned eventually
at this point I don't even think Veeky Forums has janitors at all

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

also they're going big because of the square cube law being of great assistance to rockets

takes2long
takes2long

Ouch

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Comets are ice bro

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